Mikki Beating Baccarat?
January 7th, 2022 at 7:46:12 AM
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2 hour interview with Mikki coming up this weekend on Dan Druffs radio show
January 7th, 2022 at 8:04:20 AM
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let's hope Dan doesn't p**** out and he actually plays hard ball.Quote: Exposed2 hour interview with Mikki coming up this weekend on Dan Druffs radio show
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The problem we have.... this is a well-crafted situation where Mikki has said multiple times that he won't tell anybody exactly how or where his Advantage comes from, therefore, it would be fairly hard to debunk his claims that he has an advantage and he is beating the casinos.
It's in my opinion that he knows damn well that's the key element of all this. It's a perfect cover story since the logic dictates that if he tells someone it could possibly ruin his gig, therefore, he must keep it a secret. It's pretty hard to argue with that.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
January 7th, 2022 at 8:09:20 AM
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Quote: Marcusclark66Quote: DieterQuote: Marcusclark66Absolutely great video. =. Exposing Mikki and his so called claims and open ended statements, etc. I thought Spencer did a good/great job of debunking.
So I am wrong now?
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That would appear to be an endorsement of Spencer and his videos, at least on this subject.
Urging people to watch another video of his shortly after would seem to be a furtherance of the prior endorsement.
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The one video, yes. In most ways on a personal level I would side with Spencer or I would tend to agree with the majority of what Spencer was bringing forward as an observer.
However, IMO and hopefully that of most others, since I did not say I totally endorse or Spencer is always spot on, etc, whatever else Spencer comes out with does not automatically obtain my approval and endorsements.
I don’t believe I urged people to watch a video. Urging, would have to be, IMO, a bit ‘stronger’ than ‘watch’, no?
But maybe I am wrong?
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Perhaps you misjudge your own powers of persuasion?
May the cards fall in your favor.
January 7th, 2022 at 8:15:47 AM
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Quote: OnceDearWell done. You saw an amusing subtlety that I had not intended. But if I had, I'd have been proud.Quote: Marcusclark66Quote: OnceDear
Use of single word sentences in English.
E.g.
Imperatives or commands (example: Watch!)
"Watch." is a complete sentence. The sentence commenced with a capital letter and was terminated by a period.
If it were referring to timepieces, or if it were just a verb, we would normally need a second word.
Now. I did not use an exclamation mark, so I did not URGE you to click that spoiler button. I 'suggested', 'commanded', or we might say 'recommended' that you click on it. You clicked on it. Thank you.
Now, Let's all stop assuming what we each mean or are thinking. Let's just read what we see on the screen and let's not argue about what we infer?
Click!
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Within the definition that was contained in the dictionary under your ‘click’ for ‘click’:
“to fit or agree exactly”
Which we all do when we click on click?
Disclaimer. Lol, I’m joking, :)
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Let's agree exactly.
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We do.
Side note. You would get a kick out of a memo a couple of months ago I received for my department to check a vendors quality of work with their parking lot surface repainting of the lines for the spaces. More specifically the memo writer wanted to assure the lines were straight.
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January 7th, 2022 at 8:46:09 AM
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I honestly don't know what to think about Mikki. Many aspects seem legit and some things don't make sense given the information we have. He definitely seems like a smart, likable cool guy. I do know for sure he cannot beat a -EV game without a mathematical advantage. He may be winning giving a limited number of hands using some kind of Martingale system that hasn't crashed yet. Or, like I said, he's getting some kind of rebates or back-end stuff that actually gives him an advantage.Quote: Marcusclark66Quote: AxelWolfI have no idea if Mikki has some back-end deals with the casinos or what kind of profits he makes from his social media stuff. There's certainly a potential +EV situation given the right situation, especially if he has the money and knowledge to negotiate a favorable deal. I believe he actually does. I can see a situation where casinos are/were willing to bend over backwards offering player-friendly deals(+EV) to get a shot at his and his connections money only to realize after the fact that they have been duped.
With that being said, I just lost any faith I had in Spencer Cornelia's investigation abilities. It's clear he is capable of being easily bamboozled. He looks at ONE(one he Mikki chooses himself) of Mikki's casino online casino player accounts and deems him legit. 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️
It doesn't matter if you look at three or four or five or six, it's the one account that has a massive loss on it and that totality of all his play that really matters. Even then, you would have to factor in good old positive variance.
If Mikki's investors don't have an actual advantage(Fyi Mikki could be making something off the back end for himself) and he's just using some Marty system or whatever, Spencer Cornelia just helped perpetuate a financially dangerous situation to some gullible ignorant people.
It seems like it's only people who have a s*** ton of money to lose, that this has the potential to affect.
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I thought twice about it, (Axel and I have wrestled a bit, LOL) but his rendering of Spencer’s video described in his post above is excellent IMO!
However I have done zero investigation or read anything more than an industry wide bulletin/memo regarding both Mikki and Spencer. My end of the memo was to alert another department’s personnel if those two individuals are recognized on the floor. That dies not imply anything is wrong or against the gaming regulations that govern our properties.
Again, I would side with Axel’s interpretations.
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♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
January 7th, 2022 at 9:32:31 AM
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I don't watch much of these videos, but would it be illegal for a casino to allow a person to play on a tournament type machine that pays more often and pretend it is real money.
In other words, can a casino set a machine to pay out 130% for these videos but not have to pay out the money. Is there anything to stop me from renting out the casino in Searchlight for a few hours when they are dead and have the machines set to pay off far better than normal?
In other words, can a casino set a machine to pay out 130% for these videos but not have to pay out the money. Is there anything to stop me from renting out the casino in Searchlight for a few hours when they are dead and have the machines set to pay off far better than normal?
The older I get, the better I recall things that never happened
January 7th, 2022 at 10:08:55 AM
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Mikki does makes total sense when he gives his rationale for wins in relation to bankrolls, drawdowns and certain clusters or periods of timing, etc, he talks about.
I see it done all the time, larger bankrolls and hitting it hard for short periods of wagering versus the so called grind, shoe after shoe of playing. As well, with small or smaller money versus the larger bankrolls and buy ins.
I see it done all the time, larger bankrolls and hitting it hard for short periods of wagering versus the so called grind, shoe after shoe of playing. As well, with small or smaller money versus the larger bankrolls and buy ins.
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January 7th, 2022 at 12:45:59 PM
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That's the total opposite of what actually makes sense, if that's how he's claiming to beat baccarat, then I say it's all BS.Quote: Marcusclark66Mikki does makes total sense when he gives his rationale for wins in relation to bankrolls, drawdowns and certain clusters or periods of timing, etc, he talks about.
I see it done all the time, larger bankrolls and hitting it hard for short periods of wagering versus the so called grind, shoe after shoe of playing. As well, with small or smaller money versus the larger bankrolls and buy ins.
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♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
January 7th, 2022 at 4:42:40 PM
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Any numbnuts can beat a negative expectation game in the short run: it's called "variance."
However maintaining a winning overall record in the long run is likely impossible or so unlikely as to be deemed such.
There are many examples of gamblers killing the house for a period of time, a period which some might consider the long run.
The guy who whacked Binion's for all their high denomination chips comes to mind, but then he lost them all back when his luck changed.
He had incredible luck and ran with a long streak, a "medium run" if you will, until it changed.
The math is inexorable: defy it at your own risk.
However maintaining a winning overall record in the long run is likely impossible or so unlikely as to be deemed such.
There are many examples of gamblers killing the house for a period of time, a period which some might consider the long run.
The guy who whacked Binion's for all their high denomination chips comes to mind, but then he lost them all back when his luck changed.
He had incredible luck and ran with a long streak, a "medium run" if you will, until it changed.
The math is inexorable: defy it at your own risk.
"What, me worry?"
January 8th, 2022 at 3:51:25 AM
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Quote: billryanI don't watch much of these videos, but would it be illegal for a casino to allow a person to play on a tournament type machine that pays more often and pretend it is real money.
In other words, can a casino set a machine to pay out 130% for these videos but not have to pay out the money. Is there anything to stop me from renting out the casino in Searchlight for a few hours when they are dead and have the machines set to pay off far better than normal?
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You may be thinking too small.
I believe this channel has their own machines, configured as they like.
I can't imagine a casino would want to do something like that, and I can imagine gaming enforcement would find a problem with it.
May the cards fall in your favor.
January 8th, 2022 at 6:17:23 AM
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It's mind-boggling how some people who seem to be smart in many other areas, including math, somehow fail when it comes to this very simple gambling/math concept.Quote: MrVAny numbnuts can beat a negative expectation game in the short run: it's called "variance."
However maintaining a winning overall record in the long run is likely impossible or so unlikely as to be deemed such.
There are many examples of gamblers killing the house for a period of time, a period which some might consider the long run.
The guy who whacked Binion's for all their high denomination chips comes to mind, but then he lost them all back when his luck changed.
He had incredible luck and ran with a long streak, a "medium run" if you will, until it changed.
The math is inexorable: defy it at your own risk.
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♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
January 8th, 2022 at 6:18:14 AM
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b/c you sux axelz =/
January 8th, 2022 at 6:28:08 AM
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I don't disagree, but somehow I have figured out how to manage my suckiness while being successful, happy, and having lots of fun and adventures along the way.Quote: BillBobbersb/c you sux axelz =/
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♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
January 8th, 2022 at 9:38:28 AM
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I didn't know AxelWolf had enough presence to draw anyone new willing to comment about him these days? I guess I was wrong. 😆
MDawg on the other hand...hordes of wanted (and unwanted) followers.
MDawg on the other hand...hordes of wanted (and unwanted) followers.
I tell you it’s wonderful to be here, man. I don’t give a damn who wins or loses. It’s just wonderful to be here with you people.
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gambling/betting-systems/33908-the-adventures-of-mdawg/
March 19th, 2022 at 4:27:46 PM
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I recently created and just closed another thread about Mikki here: THE ADVENTURES OF MIKKI. This thread was created because I didn't know about this one. Per forum policy against multiple threads on the same topic, I'm directing posts on the topic here. There are some good ones in the Adventures thread. Please check them out if this topic interests you.
"For with much wisdom comes much sorrow." -- Ecclesiastes 1:18 (NIV)
March 19th, 2022 at 6:13:06 PM
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I've Googled this Mikki and I find him in various high limit poker games including videos branded with World Poker Tour.
He has had some verifiable gambling success.
This isnt saying everything is kosher but I'd be careful going overboard with character assassination. People do get lucky. Maybe he's had a run of luck?
He has had some verifiable gambling success.
This isnt saying everything is kosher but I'd be careful going overboard with character assassination. People do get lucky. Maybe he's had a run of luck?
March 19th, 2022 at 6:17:26 PM
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Go Mikki.
The older I get, the better I recall things that never happened
March 19th, 2022 at 6:30:45 PM
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Quote: AlanMendelsonI've Googled this Mikki and I find him in various high limit poker games including videos branded with World Poker Tour.
He has had some verifiable gambling success.
This isnt saying everything is kosher but I'd be careful going overboard with character assassination. People do get lucky. Maybe he's had a run of luck?
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So you believe Mikki is beating Baccarat but can't believe I beat casino comps systems?
SMH
For Whom the bus tolls; The bus tolls for thee
March 19th, 2022 at 7:00:57 PM
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Quote: darkozQuote: AlanMendelsonI've Googled this Mikki and I find him in various high limit poker games including videos branded with World Poker Tour.
He has had some verifiable gambling success.
This isnt saying everything is kosher but I'd be careful going overboard with character assassination. People do get lucky. Maybe he's had a run of luck?
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So you believe Mikki is beating Baccarat but can't believe I beat casino comps systems?
SMH
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I didnt say anything about him beating Baccarat, did I?
March 19th, 2022 at 7:06:12 PM
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Quote: AlanMendelsonQuote: darkozQuote: AlanMendelsonI've Googled this Mikki and I find him in various high limit poker games including videos branded with World Poker Tour.
He has had some verifiable gambling success.
This isnt saying everything is kosher but I'd be careful going overboard with character assassination. People do get lucky. Maybe he's had a run of luck?
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So you believe Mikki is beating Baccarat but can't believe I beat casino comps systems?
SMH
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I didnt say anything about him beating Baccarat, did I?
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So the name of this thread, MIKKI BEATING BACCARAT? isn't what you were saying was believable?
I guess I thought you were referring to the topic of the thread as to his having verifiable gambling success.
For Whom the bus tolls; The bus tolls for thee
March 19th, 2022 at 7:41:54 PM
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Courtesy please, gentlemen.
May the cards fall in your favor.
October 13th, 2022 at 2:15:19 PM
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Should I make a new thread or is bumping this one appropriate? Mikki went on Money Buys Happiness podcast/youtube show and showed his win/loss statements from 3 different properties completely live and he legit does seem like he has won millions of dollars gambling overall. Of course win/loss doesn't tell the entire tale... but it does back up his basic claim of winning millions.
October 13th, 2022 at 2:32:59 PM
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I don't think anyone denies that he is having a winning session now and then... if he was just some rich dude playing Baccarat it would be no big deal, but I think there are people that have issues with a lot of other stuff he has said and done. Apparently he has lied about A LOT of things in his past, and I believe he claims to have some kind of unbeatable system (like some people here in this very forum).
I just don't understand people like him... the dude is obviously rich and a high roller. You'd think that would make anyone happy, but then he goes and makes outrageous claims and lies about all kinds of things for attention. Like, dude, you've already won at life. Just relax and enjoy yourself.
I just don't understand people like him... the dude is obviously rich and a high roller. You'd think that would make anyone happy, but then he goes and makes outrageous claims and lies about all kinds of things for attention. Like, dude, you've already won at life. Just relax and enjoy yourself.
October 14th, 2022 at 10:17:08 AM
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Quote: TigerWuI don't think anyone denies that he is having a winning session now and then... if he was just some rich dude playing Baccarat it would be no big deal, but I think there are people that have issues with a lot of other stuff he has said and done. Apparently he has lied about A LOT of things in his past, and I believe he claims to have some kind of unbeatable system (like some people here in this very forum).
I just don't understand people like him... the dude is obviously rich and a high roller. You'd think that would make anyone happy, but then he goes and makes outrageous claims and lies about all kinds of things for attention. Like, dude, you've already won at life. Just relax and enjoy yourself.
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What do you think keeps uber wealthy people going?
"How much is enough?"
"More."
Of course, money isn't the only currency for the highly successful. With that, it is my assumption that some people are lacking in a way such to create a void that money cannot fill. It would seem that some such people think flaunting/bragging is the way to fill that void, but evidently not, as doing such things often seems to be an insatiable drive. It's also difficult for some of those people to recognize that there are many who legitimately do not care that person A materially has more than person B. And, yet, some of those same people still persist; they don't know what it is you have, (because they have more money) but they do know you have something that they don't and they want it. Even if they can't have it, trying to take it away from you is enough to temporarily satiate.
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/off-topic/gripes/11182-pet-peeves/120/#post815219
April 21st, 2023 at 4:12:46 PM
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After much research I now know this Mikki guy is a pathological liar, and probably a sociopathic one who takes advantage of others by getting them to gamble using their money. I can't believe that Spencer Cornelia basically OK'ed him as a non-fraudster. I lost all respect for Spencer. Every time Mikki opens his mouth I just face palm and cannot believe how gullible the public is.
Mikki is obviously a trust fund kid which is how he has his money. An insider told me Mikki being banned from some casinos is because he's done some shady financial transactions with wires in and out. Casinos treat that stuff very seriously because of the regulation from the NGCB.
Mikki is obviously a trust fund kid which is how he has his money. An insider told me Mikki being banned from some casinos is because he's done some shady financial transactions with wires in and out. Casinos treat that stuff very seriously because of the regulation from the NGCB.
July 18th, 2023 at 4:59:40 PM
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I looked into him too and I agree that he's probably banned for doing illegal or legally gray things in the casino. From what I gather he might have made his money from a little known business of getting people into rehab. It sounds noble at first but it is basically a scheme to pack as many people in to collect insurance and government money, and is basically diet human trafficking. He either owns the rehab centers himself or they are owned by someone in his family. So yea probably comes from some money and shuffles addicts around to get rich. Again this is is all speculation, which i feel i have to say because Mikki comments on tons of posts on YT, IG, and other social media forums talking about him, so a good bet that he's also following this thread
August 22nd, 2023 at 3:40:58 PM
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Mikki has a new video out on TikTok. He says he "has found a way to beat all the casinos forever."
Much like his previous claims, it sounds like a scam to me.
However, I will be happy to review new evidence as it comes in.
Much like his previous claims, it sounds like a scam to me.
However, I will be happy to review new evidence as it comes in.
"For with much wisdom comes much sorrow." -- Ecclesiastes 1:18 (NIV)
August 22nd, 2023 at 3:52:05 PM
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I actually missed this thread initially, the only time I heard of this guy was from Spencer Cornelia's videos (he initially did one being skeptical, and shortly after did one meeting him and verifying him.)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wlBRrFzFsGk
I don't know anything about him outside of this series. His claims seem insane, but I guess they reviewed his records (granted it sounds like just in a way to verify that he was betting at the levels claimed, not that he was winning, so it is still possibly he is just a rich dude clout chasing.) Also, it sounds like he is being crazy vague with how he can win (and even what games), he can I guess win on almost any game by just knowing how to bet?
That most recent link sounds sus, message him to be given money and told how to bet? It would be interesting if anyone here actually takes him up on that (I will not because I don't use social media, and I do not trust that at all.) If somebody has a method that can destroy all casinos at once, I doubt they would be spreading it on social media.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wlBRrFzFsGk
I don't know anything about him outside of this series. His claims seem insane, but I guess they reviewed his records (granted it sounds like just in a way to verify that he was betting at the levels claimed, not that he was winning, so it is still possibly he is just a rich dude clout chasing.) Also, it sounds like he is being crazy vague with how he can win (and even what games), he can I guess win on almost any game by just knowing how to bet?
That most recent link sounds sus, message him to be given money and told how to bet? It would be interesting if anyone here actually takes him up on that (I will not because I don't use social media, and I do not trust that at all.) If somebody has a method that can destroy all casinos at once, I doubt they would be spreading it on social media.
November 5th, 2023 at 3:41:20 AM
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EvenBob brought up this video which has Mikki appearing in it for the last half.
EvenBob says "What I am intrigued by is something he said in this video at minute 11 for about 60 seconds."
My next post response to the video (not to EvenBob) was:
I like his story how he started with $200 at BJ and ran that up to $5K at $25/hand (he probably used a progression there), then turned $5K into $13K, then turned $13K into $26K, then turned $26K into $125K, then went to another casino and negotiated higher limits and turned $125K into $350K then turned the $350K into $800K.
So that's 6 sessions in succession. He seems to be good at doubling, tripling or quintupling his buy-ins, and don't forget his first session where he won to 25X his buy-in.
His challenge for the interviewer was to quintuple the buy-in of $500 to $2500. Mikki said it could go to $0 or to $2500, there's half a chance of either.
The problem with gamblers that I think he's alluding to is that people keep coming back and the house edge eats them alive eventually. If you win big before that happens, you'll be in the clear. With real world inflation the way it is nowadays, what kind of bankroll do you need, how much do you need to win each year, and what casinos will not kick you out for winning that much. I guess you've got to go to Vegas to find out because most every casino in small town USA is gonna kick you out for winning too much way before you win a million bucks a year from them, much less a million bucks a week.
A previous post in this current thread mentions a problem with bank wires got him banned from the casinos. Maybe the bank in question doesn't accept large wires over such an amount and it caused a problem or it was an overseas or out of country bank. Just a thought, I know nothing about such problems except I can't deposit large scanned checks by phone at the cage myself. Maybe the bank said no deposits over $250K and he tried to stuff $11 million in there and it was such an error all the casinos just laughed their asses off and said no mas.
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Here's an article about his comeback from $200 to $800K in 3 days.
How Mikki Mase almost lost everything in one of the worst Summer Losing Streaks.
https://www.netnewsledger.com/2023/03/02/how-mikki-mase-almost-lost-everything-in-one-of-the-worst-summer-losing-streaks/
Mikki Mase Net Worth 2023; Real Name, Wife & Biography
https://networthgorilla.com/mikki-mase-net-worth/
He's worth at least $10 million, because he won $11 million before he was banned.
EvenBob says "What I am intrigued by is something he said in this video at minute 11 for about 60 seconds."
My next post response to the video (not to EvenBob) was:
I like his story how he started with $200 at BJ and ran that up to $5K at $25/hand (he probably used a progression there), then turned $5K into $13K, then turned $13K into $26K, then turned $26K into $125K, then went to another casino and negotiated higher limits and turned $125K into $350K then turned the $350K into $800K.
So that's 6 sessions in succession. He seems to be good at doubling, tripling or quintupling his buy-ins, and don't forget his first session where he won to 25X his buy-in.
His challenge for the interviewer was to quintuple the buy-in of $500 to $2500. Mikki said it could go to $0 or to $2500, there's half a chance of either.
The problem with gamblers that I think he's alluding to is that people keep coming back and the house edge eats them alive eventually. If you win big before that happens, you'll be in the clear. With real world inflation the way it is nowadays, what kind of bankroll do you need, how much do you need to win each year, and what casinos will not kick you out for winning that much. I guess you've got to go to Vegas to find out because most every casino in small town USA is gonna kick you out for winning too much way before you win a million bucks a year from them, much less a million bucks a week.
A previous post in this current thread mentions a problem with bank wires got him banned from the casinos. Maybe the bank in question doesn't accept large wires over such an amount and it caused a problem or it was an overseas or out of country bank. Just a thought, I know nothing about such problems except I can't deposit large scanned checks by phone at the cage myself. Maybe the bank said no deposits over $250K and he tried to stuff $11 million in there and it was such an error all the casinos just laughed their asses off and said no mas.
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Here's an article about his comeback from $200 to $800K in 3 days.
How Mikki Mase almost lost everything in one of the worst Summer Losing Streaks.
https://www.netnewsledger.com/2023/03/02/how-mikki-mase-almost-lost-everything-in-one-of-the-worst-summer-losing-streaks/
Mikki Mase Net Worth 2023; Real Name, Wife & Biography
https://networthgorilla.com/mikki-mase-net-worth/
He's worth at least $10 million, because he won $11 million before he was banned.
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November 5th, 2023 at 8:19:38 AM
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As others have stated, he's a trust fund baby with a dubious past. Whatever money he's flashing, is likely withdrawn from a family or inherited account with surplus funds. The reason Spencer and others vouch for him after initially doubting him is likely due to Mikki paying or otherwise convincing his "dirty goth girls" to entertain them. I'll let you use your imagination as to what that entails.
If you ever listen to people who do confront him on the system. He will boldly proclaim that "he has a system that beats the casinos and the proof is because he is banned from many casinos!". When asked or questioned further to the point he is backed into a corner, he then weasels out of explaining by saying "Well, I don't have to Prove anything to YOU! And I'm not here to defend myself, I don't care if you believe me, etc." Typical cop outs from Frauds!
If you ever listen to people who do confront him on the system. He will boldly proclaim that "he has a system that beats the casinos and the proof is because he is banned from many casinos!". When asked or questioned further to the point he is backed into a corner, he then weasels out of explaining by saying "Well, I don't have to Prove anything to YOU! And I'm not here to defend myself, I don't care if you believe me, etc." Typical cop outs from Frauds!
November 5th, 2023 at 9:12:17 AM
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i can tell you myself i know of many ways to be banned from a casino without winning
November 5th, 2023 at 9:34:03 AM
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Quote: TigerWuI don't think anyone denies that he is having a winning session now and then... if he was just some rich dude playing Baccarat it would be no big deal, but I think there are people that have issues with a lot of other stuff he has said and done. Apparently he has lied about A LOT of things in his past, and I believe he claims to have some kind of unbeatable system (like some people here in this very forum).
I just don't understand people like him... the dude is obviously rich and a high roller. You'd think that would make anyone happy, but then he goes and makes outrageous claims and lies about all kinds of things for attention. Like, dude, you've already won at life. Just relax and enjoy yourself.
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What has he won?
The older I get, the better I recall things that never happened
November 5th, 2023 at 9:38:58 AM
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Wasn't there a recent post he made and discussion here about how he was going to reveal how he beats Baccarat? Not holding my breath on anything convincing.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
November 5th, 2023 at 9:47:10 AM
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Quote: AxelWolfWasn't there a recent post he made and discussion here about how he was going to reveal how he beats Baccarat? Not holding my breath on anything convincing.
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Mikki wasn't a member here. Who do you think was going to post that evidence and where?
Psalm 25:16
Turn to me and be gracious to me, for I am lonely and afflicted.
Proverbs 18:2
A fool finds no satisfaction in trying to understand, for he would rather express his own opinion.
November 5th, 2023 at 2:59:38 PM
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Yep pretty much as I thought, this guy is full of it. I don't know exactly what's going on but it's not what he says. His knowledge about how to play is pitiful. He obviously has no method no system and makes statements like don't give me your money expecting to make money cuz I might lose it. LOL it's just as I thought, he's a con man. His whole backstory in this video, after a while you realize that he's making it up as he goes along. Gang member, went to prison till he was 21, was a hot shot on Wall Street, used to break into people's houses and steal cars, was a drug addict for years, it's just made up nonsense. Go down into the comments and find this one and read some of the 85 replies and you'll get an idea who this guy is.
@mika0016
1 year ago
As someone spent years in the Vegas mid-high stakes poker scene, I can tell you that he's lying about a ton of this. Most likely, he hit his trust fund at 30 and is a close to break even gambler with a high risk tolerance. He really let his story fall apart with his impossible Florida story, and then admitting his family owned casinos. He got his cut of the grandpa's trust fund at 30, there's simply no way he was employed on wall street while homeless, then parlayed low-salary work at rehabs into owning a number of them.... to selling or giving it all away, in 8-10 years. He maybe gambled some of his own money, but he's primarily gambling with other people's money, or is helping launder money.
His story especially falls apart with Crypto. It just doesn't add up, at all. I don't hate on a man, he's doing a great job creating a brand, socializing with rappers, etc. It's clear from streams that he's not a winning poker player, and it's clear from the reactions during the Hustler stream when he lost 250k of profit (still ending up 8k up) that 250k is a LOT of money for him.
@mika0016
1 year ago
As someone spent years in the Vegas mid-high stakes poker scene, I can tell you that he's lying about a ton of this. Most likely, he hit his trust fund at 30 and is a close to break even gambler with a high risk tolerance. He really let his story fall apart with his impossible Florida story, and then admitting his family owned casinos. He got his cut of the grandpa's trust fund at 30, there's simply no way he was employed on wall street while homeless, then parlayed low-salary work at rehabs into owning a number of them.... to selling or giving it all away, in 8-10 years. He maybe gambled some of his own money, but he's primarily gambling with other people's money, or is helping launder money.
His story especially falls apart with Crypto. It just doesn't add up, at all. I don't hate on a man, he's doing a great job creating a brand, socializing with rappers, etc. It's clear from streams that he's not a winning poker player, and it's clear from the reactions during the Hustler stream when he lost 250k of profit (still ending up 8k up) that 250k is a LOT of money for him.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
November 5th, 2023 at 3:28:58 PM
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In this video at the very end the interviewer says to Mikki that he knows his real name and he did some research on the 300 pharmacies that Mikki claims to have owned and could find absolutely nothing about it. Not a shred of evidence that it ever happened and of course Mikki had some lame reason for this that made no sense at all. If you really listen to this video and watch the 2-hour interview what he describes would have taken two or three lifetimes of a regular person to accomplish and he did it all in 8 or 10 years or less. And he did it while being a total drug addict with tattoos all over his face. There's no way anybody who's been around even a little bit can watch these videos and think this guy's for real.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
November 5th, 2023 at 4:26:25 PM
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In all three of these videos at some time during the interview he says something like, I've never talked about this before but I'm going to now. Or he says, taking out his phone, I've never showed this to anybody but I'm going to show it to you. He does this in every video. What he's doing is what every con man does, he's taking you into his confidence. That's where the term con man comes from, he's a confidence man. He gets you to trust him by supposedly telling you things that are secret. I probably shouldn't be telling you this he'll say, then he'll take you into his confidence with some scheme. He even admits at one point that he's a super duper good salesman and he could sell anything and what he's doing here is he's selling himself, he's selling all his phony baloney stories. But they're ridiculous, nobody can do everything he did in that short amount of time with no high school diploma never been to college, and I doubt the guys ever read a book because he has a bad vocabulary. But people eat this stuff up, they always have. I was reading that the original term comes from a guy in the mid 19th century in New York City who could con anybody into anything especially if they were rich.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
November 5th, 2023 at 4:57:39 PM
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Sounds like someone has a man-crush.
The older I get, the better I recall things that never happened
November 5th, 2023 at 6:50:55 PM
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Quote: billryanSounds like someone has a man-crush.
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When I first saw him, I thought he was an ex-convict because that's who dresses and looks like that. That's who gets face tattoos and who has 1970s long hair and I was right. One thing I don't think he was BS'ing about is that he was in prison and was a professional criminal for years.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
November 6th, 2023 at 12:07:18 AM
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Quote: EvenBobQuote: billryanSounds like someone has a man-crush.
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When I first saw him, I thought he was an ex-convict because that's who dresses and looks like that. That's who gets face tattoos and who has 1970s long hair and I was right. One thing I don't think he was BS'ing about is that he was in prison and was a professional criminal for years.
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Go to the thread Wizard started in his first post there is a link to a reddit forum thread
where people from his past give insight.
November 6th, 2023 at 12:21:47 AM
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Quote: rainman
Go to the thread Wizard started in his first post there is a link to a reddit forum thread
where people from his past give insight.
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The other thread (closed to discussion, open to read):
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gambling/betting-systems/37020-the-adventures-of-mikki/#post843653
May the cards fall in your favor.
November 11th, 2023 at 7:29:55 AM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LoEpN14IsP0
Newish Mikki Mase interview and its fucking wild. The interviewers get into a discussion about kissing their sexual partners on the lips after a blowjob. It's completely off the rails. Mikki does talk a bit more in depth about his relationship to various rappers and keeps repeating "I'm gambling, I can still lose and have lost" and talks about the pressure he felt when people hand him a pile of money to run it up.
Tiny bit of talk about comps and casino perks of being a high roller. Him buying out people's dinner is a genuinely cool thing(of course he's doing it on the casino's dime...)
Newish Mikki Mase interview and its fucking wild. The interviewers get into a discussion about kissing their sexual partners on the lips after a blowjob. It's completely off the rails. Mikki does talk a bit more in depth about his relationship to various rappers and keeps repeating "I'm gambling, I can still lose and have lost" and talks about the pressure he felt when people hand him a pile of money to run it up.
Tiny bit of talk about comps and casino perks of being a high roller. Him buying out people's dinner is a genuinely cool thing(of course he's doing it on the casino's dime...)
November 11th, 2023 at 8:25:01 AM
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Quote: ChallengedMillyand talks about the pressure he felt when people hand him a pile of money to run it up.
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He's an idiot if he does that. I always turn that down because I'm not a freaking ATM. I don't even let people I know piggyback my bets if I'm at a brick and mortar Casino. Not even family members.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
November 11th, 2023 at 8:51:55 AM
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I'm about 16.5 minutes in and he's explaining his table limits. He says he flat bets mostly with $50K/hand on double deck BJ, $75K/hand at 6 deck shoe BJ, and $250K at Baccarat. He lowers his bet a little for the first 4-6 hands of a new Baccarat shoe to see how the cards are coming.
November 11th, 2023 at 8:55:48 AM
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He is not an idiot if he is getting a percentage of the wins and taking none of the losses.Quote: EvenBobQuote: ChallengedMillyand talks about the pressure he felt when people hand him a pile of money to run it up.
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He's an idiot if he does that. I always turn that down because I'm not a freaking ATM. I don't even let people I know piggyback my bets if I'm at a brick and mortar Casino. Not even family members.
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Add in the food comps, free bets, free play, free rooms, show tickets, rebates, etc and he is making out like a bandit.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
November 11th, 2023 at 9:39:00 AM
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Quote: AxelWolfHe is not an idiot if he is getting a percentage of the wins
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Point is if he is what he says he is and does what he says he does he would never have to do that. He could just take the similar amount of his own money and keep all the winnings for himself. That's why I don't do it. Why would I take your $5,000 and turn it into $10,000 and take a percentage when I can take my own $5,000 and do that and keep all of it. What am I a charity? An ATM?
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
November 11th, 2023 at 9:40:56 AM
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Quote: ChumpChangeand $250K at Baccarat. He lowers his bet a little for the first 4-6 hands of a new Baccarat shoe to see how the cards are coming.
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I'd like to know how he gets his bet selection that he's so confident he can bet a quarter million dollars a hand. I'm pretty darn good at reading the random of two outcomes, what's he doing that I'm not doing. Frankly I don't believe it. You're into crystal ball Ouija board territory here.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
November 11th, 2023 at 9:40:57 AM
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He says a lot of things. Doesn't mean a word of it is true.Quote: ChumpChangeI'm about 16.5 minutes in and he's explaining his table limits. He says he flat bets mostly with $50K/hand on double deck BJ, $75K/hand at 6 deck shoe BJ, and $250K at Baccarat. He lowers his bet a little for the first 4-6 hands of a new Baccarat shoe to see how the cards are coming.
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Psalm 25:16
Turn to me and be gracious to me, for I am lonely and afflicted.
Proverbs 18:2
A fool finds no satisfaction in trying to understand, for he would rather express his own opinion.
November 11th, 2023 at 9:45:12 AM
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Duh? Because he has no winning scheme. Take a percentage of winnings on the times he wins and lose zero of his own funds on the times he loses. Ultimate freeroll.Quote: EvenBobQuote: AxelWolfHe is not an idiot if he is getting a percentage of the wins
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Point is if he is what he says he is and does what he says he does he would never have to do that. He could just take the similar amount of his own money and keep all the winnings for himself. That's why I don't do it. Why would I take your $5,000 and turn it into $10,000 and take a percentage when I can take my own $5,000 and do that and keep all of it. What am I a charity? An ATM?
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It's never really been established where all/most of his bankroll comes from.
Psalm 25:16
Turn to me and be gracious to me, for I am lonely and afflicted.
Proverbs 18:2
A fool finds no satisfaction in trying to understand, for he would rather express his own opinion.
November 11th, 2023 at 9:47:40 AM
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If he won 45 hands ahead on a session at $250K/hand, he'd be up $11 million. But it seems he's sleeping with a lot of casino executives' wives and their daughters so what is that all about? He's just a gigalo as they don't say.
