EvenBob
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August 25th, 2021 at 8:17:53 PM permalink
Quote: darkoz

Yes you can flap your arms and levitate when the wind is correct and we are all stupid for doubting you.



This is just about exactly the kind of comment I was expecting from you. Believe me when I tell you, or don't. I am an expert in this area. And you are not.
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EvenBob
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August 25th, 2021 at 8:20:44 PM permalink
Quote: FinsRule

I make fun of baccarat players writing down results. Just not to their faces.



You don't do it to their faces because you know full well they would laugh at you in return. When you're getting results doing something and someone comes along and tells you that you aren't getting results, you tend to dismiss that person as not knowing what they're talking about.
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August 25th, 2021 at 8:23:55 PM permalink
EB, let me get this straight. As an example, youíre saying that if you record a series of fair coin flips, you have a feel for the next 10 - 20 flips?
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EvenBob
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August 25th, 2021 at 9:31:06 PM permalink
Quote: Ace2

EB, let me get this straight. As an example, youíre saying that if you record a series of fair coin flips, you have a feel for the next 10 - 20 flips?



It's always for the next flip, no farther than that. Because the next flip could change everything just like the next spin could change everything. Roulette is played spin to spin in the extreme short-term where. long-term stats mean nothing. In the world of statistics short-term stats are always meaningless.
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August 26th, 2021 at 1:00:38 AM permalink
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the wheel has no memory

it's an inanimate object

nothing anybody posts on WOV can ever change that fact

more and more new members are coming here every month posting about the merits of fallacious betting systems

long time members such as OnceDear, Axel, DarkOz, TomG and myself who rebut these systems will probably become fatigued and interject less often

Tom G has posted that he is so turned off by it all that he can only stomach checking in here once a week

it seems to me very likely that very soon, WOV will be dominated by these types of fantastical posters spouting these kinds of fantastical tales


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"𝘣𝘦𝘭𝘪𝘦𝘷𝘦 𝘩𝘢𝘭𝘧 𝘰𝘧 𝘸𝘩𝘢𝘵 𝘺𝘰𝘶 𝘴𝘦𝘦 𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘯𝘰𝘯𝘦 𝘰𝘧 𝘸𝘩𝘢𝘵 𝘺𝘰𝘶 𝘩𝘦𝘢𝘳"______Edgar Allan Poe
EvenBob
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August 26th, 2021 at 1:06:08 AM permalink
Quote: lilredrooster

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the wheel has no memory



But I do. Thanks for sharing your interesting platitude..
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August 26th, 2021 at 1:18:02 AM permalink
Quote: EvenBob


that I see the what I need to see just
by looking at the 𝐭𝐨𝐭𝐞 𝐛𝐨𝐚𝐫𝐝.



incorrect usage of the words 𝐭𝐨𝐭𝐞 𝐛𝐨𝐚𝐫𝐝
roulette games display results but that is not an accurate description of the display
the word 𝐭𝐨𝐭𝐞 in gambling comes from horse racing
odds and payouts are displayed on what is called a 𝐭𝐨𝐭𝐞 𝐛𝐨𝐚𝐫𝐝

the word 𝐭𝐨𝐭𝐞 is short for the word totalizer

what does the word "totalizer" mean?

from Merriam-Webster

"one that totalizes: such as. a : pari-mutuel sense 2. b : a device (such as a meter) that records a remaining total (as of fuel)"

in racing the 𝐭𝐨𝐭𝐞 𝐛𝐨𝐚𝐫𝐝 displays calculated odds and payouts

the roulette results display does no such thing



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"𝘣𝘦𝘭𝘪𝘦𝘷𝘦 𝘩𝘢𝘭𝘧 𝘰𝘧 𝘸𝘩𝘢𝘵 𝘺𝘰𝘶 𝘴𝘦𝘦 𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘯𝘰𝘯𝘦 𝘰𝘧 𝘸𝘩𝘢𝘵 𝘺𝘰𝘶 𝘩𝘦𝘢𝘳"______Edgar Allan Poe
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August 26th, 2021 at 1:27:27 AM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

What is sad is you cannot prove that you cannot use past results. All the stats for past results involve the long-term. There are no stats for the short-term. All you ever hear is 'anything can happen in the short-term.' You people are always screaming and stomping your feet at me that I will not tell you anything about what I do. And then when I do tell you you get even more upset. What did you think I did use a Ouija board? Consult tarot cards? Why does nobody ever question baccarat players and laugh at them and make fun of them for writing down past results.

I will repeat. Long-term past results are worthless for playing the game of roulette. Short-term results, the last 7 to 12 spins, are gold. Is it my fault you can't see that? They locked Galileo up because he said he could prove the Earth rotated around the Sun. Why, he was the biggest idiot who ever lived, everybody knew that the sun went around the Earth. Everybody knows you can't use short-term past results in roulette. Case closed discussion over, if you don't want me giving details about what I do quit asking me to do so. It's really that simple.

The math is the math and the facts are the facts short term, or long term. Past results will not help you AT ALL in the short term or long term predicting what will happen next.

All your sessions add up to the long run, trying to time your bests using past results won't change that, especially when playing somthing that has a 2%-5% HA. From what you said regarding how long and how often you claim to have been playing roulette, you are well enough into the long to be down money.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
lilredrooster
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August 26th, 2021 at 4:23:51 AM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

𝐓𝐡𝐞𝐲 𝐥𝐨𝐜𝐤𝐞𝐝 𝐆𝐚𝐥𝐢𝐥𝐞𝐨 𝐮𝐩 because he said he could prove the Earth rotated around the Sun. Why, he was the biggest idiot who ever lived, everybody knew that the sun went around the Earth. Everybody knows you can't use short-term past results in roulette. what I do quit asking me to do so. It's really that simple.




comparing himself to Galileo
can you believe it?
you couldn't even dream up stuff like this
it's so far over the top


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"𝘣𝘦𝘭𝘪𝘦𝘷𝘦 𝘩𝘢𝘭𝘧 𝘰𝘧 𝘸𝘩𝘢𝘵 𝘺𝘰𝘶 𝘴𝘦𝘦 𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘯𝘰𝘯𝘦 𝘰𝘧 𝘸𝘩𝘢𝘵 𝘺𝘰𝘶 𝘩𝘦𝘢𝘳"______Edgar Allan Poe
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August 26th, 2021 at 5:48:01 AM permalink
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the important story is not about this thread or even this forum
the important story is that people all over the country and all over the world are being seduced by similarly fantastical tales
there are thousands of similar stories all over the web - on other forums and on YouTube
it's related to the informational challenges created by the web whereby people with no credentials make unfounded claims and garner a great many followers
it used to be, that to publish information an editor would have to verify a person's credentials and would do fact checking
that system wasn't perfect - and false information still got out there quite often
but not nearly as much as when the web started to boom

all of these thousands or maybe even millions of stories about winning gambling systems
you would think that with that many there would be one person who could provide actual proof of a similar system being valid

but in all of these years it's never happened
never has one single person provided proof of a winning gambling system based on money management (progressions) or bet selection or a combination of both


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"𝘣𝘦𝘭𝘪𝘦𝘷𝘦 𝘩𝘢𝘭𝘧 𝘰𝘧 𝘸𝘩𝘢𝘵 𝘺𝘰𝘶 𝘴𝘦𝘦 𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘯𝘰𝘯𝘦 𝘰𝘧 𝘸𝘩𝘢𝘵 𝘺𝘰𝘶 𝘩𝘦𝘢𝘳"______Edgar Allan Poe

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