AGS stock dropping
Quote: UCivanAGS is now at $9.15. Looks like a BUY.
Sure. Even with burgeoning sales from last year they still lost 20 Million dollars. A few years back was over $30 a share. Despite losing boatloads of money they still manage to give lots of stock to management diluting the already pathetic shares.
Sounds like a buy to me?
Quote: SandybestdogIs this the company that doesn’t come up with anything original? Just copies everyone else’s games and changes one minor rule to get around the patent and then sells the game for slightly less than Shufflemaster? Hope it goes to zero.
They have slot games that are decent and original.
Quote: UCivanAGS is now at $9.15. Looks like a BUY.
Not until they bail out of table games.
ZCore13
Quote: SandybestdogIs this the company that doesn’t come up with anything original? Just copies everyone else’s games and changes one minor rule to get around the patent and then sells the game for slightly less than Shufflemaster? Hope it goes to zero.
Yes.
"This page assumes that a jackpot is equally likely to trigger anywhere between the starting value and must-hit-by maximum. This seems to be true for all makers, except AGS. The reader should be warned that AGS must-hit-by jackpots almost never hit until they are near the must-hit-by point. For example, the large jackpots are supposed to hit by $5,000, but it is rumored in the advantage player slot community that they rarely hit below $4,990. So, please do not apply the information in this page to AGS machines." -- Must Hit by Progressives.
Quote: WizardI strongly disapprove of how their must-hit-by progressives are almost impossible to hit until very close to the maximum value. To me, that shows disrespect for their players and short-term-thinking. It does not surprise me that their stock is not doing well, with that attitude.
"This page assumes that a jackpot is equally likely to trigger anywhere between the starting value and must-hit-by maximum. This seems to be true for all makers, except AGS. The reader should be warned that AGS must-hit-by jackpots almost never hit until they are near the must-hit-by point. For example, the large jackpots are supposed to hit by $5,000, but it is rumored in the advantage player slot community that they rarely hit below $4,990. So, please do not apply the information in this page to AGS machines." -- Must Hit by Progressives.
I thought that's how their Super 4 Progressive Blackjack side bet would be, but I've seen it hit many times well before the must hit number. We started it at $1,000 and it seemed to hit at $990 or above, but since then we reduced it to $250 and now that it hits 4 times as often, it does hit well below the must hit by fairly often.
That doesn't change the fact that it's a bad side bet and players don't like it.
ZCore13
Quote: Zcore13I thought that's how their Super 4 Progressive Blackjack side bet would be, but I've seen it hit many times well before the must hit number. We started it at $1,000 and it seemed to hit at $990 or above, but since then we reduced it to $250 and now that it hits 4 times as often, it does hit well below the must hit by fairly often.
That doesn't change the fact that it's a bad side bet and players don't like it.
That jackpot should hit naturally, based on playing cards. I'm referring to slot machine jackpots, which are not easily quantifiable.
Quote: WizardThat jackpot should hit naturally, based on playing cards. I'm referring to slot machine jackpots, which are not easily quantifiable.
The must hit is not based on cards. It's the same as a slot must hit. All the other payouts for the game are based on cards.
ZCore13
Quote: Zcore13The must hit is not based on cards. It's the same as a slot must hit. All the other payouts for the game are based on cards.
ZCore13
How does that work for a table game? The screen just randomly says seat x wins?
Quote: GWAEHow does that work for a table game? The screen just randomly says seat x wins?
Yes. I've seen it recently on a shuffle master progressive too. Doesn't Galaxy have a mystery progressive as well?
Quote: GWAEHow does that work for a table game? The screen just randomly says seat x wins?
The progressive screen at all tables shows "Jackpot Pending" across the must hit amount and the players betting circle lights go around in a circle.
I wish it would do a little more, like more graphics on the screen or play a jackpot sound or song. Because the amount is not enough for any paperwork, we pay it out in about a minute, so most people hardly even notice the win, unless they are at the table that had it.
ZCore13.
How does a table game must hit by select a winner? Is it more of a hot seat type of situation? Does a person whose betting $100 have a better chance of winning then someone betting $5 a hand? If so, I assume that's based on what you guys enter in the computer as their rating/ average bet size. At that point I'm still uncertain how it would pick a winner.Quote: Zcore13The progressive screen at all tables shows "Jackpot Pending" across the must hit amount and the players betting circle lights go around in a circle.
I wish it would do a little more, like more graphics on the screen or play a jackpot sound or song. Because the amount is not enough for any paperwork, we pay it out in about a minute, so most people hardly even notice the win, unless they are at the table that had it.
ZCore13.
I can see if there's a side bet wager that's electronically logged how it would select someone.
Quote: AxelWolfHow does a table game must hit by select a winner? Is it more of a hot seat type of situation? Does a person whose betting $100 have a better chance of winning then someone betting $5 a hand? If so, I assume that's based on what you guys enter in the computer as their rating/ average bet size. At that point I'm still uncertain how it would pick a winner.
I can see if there's a side bet wager that's electronically logged how it would select someone.
It's just random for all active players of the bet. It doesn't know what each person is betting, only that someone placed a $5 progressive wager. Progressives are never tied into the player tracking system.
ZCore13
I'm starting to see a number of AGS slots on the casino floors, but always wondered how they are doing.
Quote: RealizeGamingHow have their slot games done?
I'm starting to see a number of AGS slots on the casino floors, but always wondered how they are doing.
I'm no expert on slots, but I believe they are fine on that side of things. They've been in the market long enough to have a heavy stream of lease income. On the Table Games side they've had huge expenses for the last 5 years or so and minimal impact on the floor, although it has been increasing I think. If they have and want to spend the cash for the first 10 years (5 more), they might end up ok.
ZCore13
Quote: UCivanAGS has gone up 13% since the initial BUY call. Stock market is a casino run by government.
AGS is now back to $9.25 now. Another round of BUY?
Quote: UCivanAGS has gone up 13% since the initial BUY call. Stock market is a casino run by government.
Government runs the stock market? Has anyone told them?
