Casinos increasing use of electronic table games.
April 25th, 2019 at 8:26:46 AM
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Casinos increasing use of electronic table games over the next five years. http://bit.ly/2Ptjxbz
The chief executive of an electronic table games manufacturer said he expects casinos to move more live table games off the floor over the next five years and rely on automation.
During a panel discussion at the University of Nevada, Las Vegas this week on table games, Interblock CEO John Connelly said, “stadium gaming,” which allows multiple types of table games – blackjack, craps, roulette and baccarat – to be played from one electronic terminal, is also replacing live tables. http://bit.ly/2Ptjxbz
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The chief executive of an electronic table games manufacturer said he expects casinos to move more live table games off the floor over the next five years and rely on automation.
During a panel discussion at the University of Nevada, Las Vegas this week on table games, Interblock CEO John Connelly said, “stadium gaming,” which allows multiple types of table games – blackjack, craps, roulette and baccarat – to be played from one electronic terminal, is also replacing live tables. http://bit.ly/2Ptjxbz
* BTW. MY Unlimited® Blackjack™ Takes the “Best New Game” AWARD at the 2019 EGR North America awards. https://bit.ly/2UToRef
* The “Best New Game” award, jointly attributed to Golden Nugget Live-Dealer Online-Casino and its technology partner Ezugi for Unlimited® Blackjack™ (Invented by Stephen Au-Yeung) offers players classic Blackjack action combined with the real-time gaming excitement of Live Dealer.
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April 25th, 2019 at 8:34:48 AM
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With more and more things becoming automated in businesses, this is not unexpected to me.
I have played some of the electronic games and, for me, it doesn't have the "feel" of playing at a real table.
I think it will be more readily accepted by younger players and the process of eliminating live table games will continue.
I'll just be one of the dinosaurs looking for live tables in a few years...
I have played some of the electronic games and, for me, it doesn't have the "feel" of playing at a real table.
I think it will be more readily accepted by younger players and the process of eliminating live table games will continue.
I'll just be one of the dinosaurs looking for live tables in a few years...
April 25th, 2019 at 9:02:02 AM
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The value of electronic gaming is the speed. Roulette for example can take 10 minutes between spins at a crowded table.
I can get 10 games in guaranteed at an e-table in ten minutes
I can get 10 games in guaranteed at an e-table in ten minutes
For Whom the bus tolls; The bus tolls for thee
April 25th, 2019 at 9:10:13 AM
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I haven't played one in a few years as my circumstances have changed, but I enjoyed them. A regular player will save a lot of money on tips. $1 tips can add up when you play three or four times a week. I had an epiphany when I jotted down some numbers and concluded the money I expected to spend on tipping dealers exceeded my assigned bankroll.
The older I get, the better I recall things that never happened
April 25th, 2019 at 9:30:13 AM
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I played eUTH last week. eChips, real cards. Gave it about 2 hrs. Won, but still didn't enjoy not having chips. Missed. a hand because I brushed the screen just as the dealer started the sequence,and it couldn't back up.
The shuffler reads all cards and coordinates with the chips. So no dealer misreads of the hands - it already knows whether you won or lost, whether the dealer qualified or not, and pays you on a tap from the dealer on your screen as he collects your cards. Bleah.
Talk about inviting beast mode conspiracy . Also makes dealing as dull as dirt, aka Let It Die. Not to mention killing some AP opportunities.
The shuffler reads all cards and coordinates with the chips. So no dealer misreads of the hands - it already knows whether you won or lost, whether the dealer qualified or not, and pays you on a tap from the dealer on your screen as he collects your cards. Bleah.
Talk about inviting beast mode conspiracy . Also makes dealing as dull as dirt, aka Let It Die. Not to mention killing some AP opportunities.
If the House lost every hand, they wouldn't deal the game.
April 25th, 2019 at 9:53:05 AM
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Have places other than Venetian/Palazzo made the insidious move to 6/5 on stadium gaming yet? (I know it’s common on the stand alone electronic ones, asking about stadium gaming specifically)
April 25th, 2019 at 10:06:26 AM
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I remain amazed at the hybrid games. Pit with a BJ and Roulette, but each is "electronic" bets but real ball/wheel and cards. You see the dealer/croupier standing in a sort of tower, make your bets on a screen.
No interest in playing either. Like the feel of the cheques in my hands.
No interest in playing either. Like the feel of the cheques in my hands.
All animals are equal, but some are more equal than others
April 25th, 2019 at 10:29:24 AM
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Disney animatronic dealers. Real chips. Your hand is dealt by animatronic Abe Lincoln. The honest game.
Just musing.
Just musing.
Sanitized for Your Protection
April 25th, 2019 at 10:41:00 AM
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Its funny because in PA we have the most morally bankrupt advertisements for our ETG blackjack.
The advertisement isnt necessarily misleading but rather does not have enough information in the ad.
The ad goes as follow :
"$5 blackjack all day long" and does not mention that it is ONLY at the ETG stadium blackjack.
Here is a link to one of the ads, although it does nothing to justify my point picture you just see the "blackjack $5 MINIMUM. ALL DAY. EVERY DAY." in big text on a billboard and youve got a recipe for disaster.
https://www.pasands.com/-/media/Gaming/Blackjack-Stadium-Gaming-Rack-Card.ashx?viewraw=true
At least once every hour someone comes to a table and says "Where is the $5 blackjack" and get pissed when its the ETG which they have no clue of how to use because they are old and want nothing to do with it.
The advertisement isnt necessarily misleading but rather does not have enough information in the ad.
The ad goes as follow :
"$5 blackjack all day long" and does not mention that it is ONLY at the ETG stadium blackjack.
Here is a link to one of the ads, although it does nothing to justify my point picture you just see the "blackjack $5 MINIMUM. ALL DAY. EVERY DAY." in big text on a billboard and youve got a recipe for disaster.
https://www.pasands.com/-/media/Gaming/Blackjack-Stadium-Gaming-Rack-Card.ashx?viewraw=true
At least once every hour someone comes to a table and says "Where is the $5 blackjack" and get pissed when its the ETG which they have no clue of how to use because they are old and want nothing to do with it.
April 25th, 2019 at 11:06:35 AM
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Casinos know that their geriatric customers will die off and their incoming youthful replacements have had calluses on their game fingers for years.
April 25th, 2019 at 11:18:55 AM
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Quote: heatmapIts funny because in PA we have the most morally bankrupt advertisements for our ETG blackjack.
The advertisement isnt necessarily misleading but rather does not have enough information in the ad.
The ad goes as follow :
"$5 blackjack all day long" and does not mention that it is ONLY at the ETG stadium blackjack.
Here is a link to one of the ads, although it does nothing to justify my point picture you just see the "blackjack $5 MINIMUM. ALL DAY. EVERY DAY." in big text on a billboard and youve got a recipe for disaster.
https://www.pasands.com/-/media/Gaming/Blackjack-Stadium-Gaming-Rack-Card.ashx?viewraw=true
At least once every hour someone comes to a table and says "Where is the $5 blackjack" and get pissed when its the ETG which they have no clue of how to use because they are old and want nothing to do with it.
I'd wager 99% of them end up gambling anyway.
The older I get, the better I recall things that never happened
April 25th, 2019 at 1:39:05 PM
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Quote: billryanI'd wager 99% of them end up gambling anyway.
There’s something for everyone there so I would agree
April 25th, 2019 at 1:44:23 PM
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Quote: billryanI'd wager 99% of them end up gambling anyway.
I'll take the over please.
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April 25th, 2019 at 2:40:55 PM
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Quote: beachbumbabsI played eUTH last week. eChips, real cards. Gave it about 2 hrs. Won, but still didn't enjoy not having chips. Missed. a hand because I brushed the screen just as the dealer started the sequence,and it couldn't back up.
The shuffler reads all cards and coordinates with the chips. So no dealer misreads of the hands - it already knows whether you won or lost, whether the dealer qualified or not, and pays you on a tap from the dealer on your screen as he collects your cards. Bleah.
Talk about inviting beast mode conspiracy . Also makes dealing as dull as dirt, aka Let It Die. Not to mention killing some AP opportunities.
At two different casinos in the last two days I have been wrongly paid a green chip or paid twice due to dealer error. Heck, that's a tank of gas.
'Emergencies' have always been the pretext on which the safeguards of individual liberty have been eroded.
April 25th, 2019 at 4:57:17 PM
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Quote: bobbartopAt two different casinos in the last two days I have been wrongly paid a green chip or paid twice due to dealer error. Heck, that's a tank of gas.
Exactly.
If the House lost every hand, they wouldn't deal the game.
April 25th, 2019 at 5:42:39 PM
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Quote: bobbartopAt two different casinos in the last two days I have been wrongly paid a green chip or paid twice due to dealer error. Heck, that's a tank of gas.
Do dealer mistakes cover your tips? I estimated I'd save about $1,000 a year if I play twenty hours a week. I don't think dealer mistakes add up to that, but your results could vary significantly.
The older I get, the better I recall things that never happened
April 25th, 2019 at 7:16:47 PM
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Quote: billryanDo dealer mistakes cover your tips? I estimated I'd save about $1,000 a year if I play twenty hours a week. I don't think dealer mistakes add up to that, but your results could vary significantly.
I'm pretty much a machine player and your point hits home, closely. Every time I get familiar with a place and start becoming friendly with that set of dealers, my tips go up. Sure, if I never tipped, I'd have a lot more money. But I can't do it. I start to like those dealers, get to know them, and I just have to tip them. Same when I played poker more in my younger years. It's a big drain. A big necessary drain. But nobody grumbles when they see me sitting in a game. I'm friendly and I tip enough. And no, Bill, that's not a joke, I really can be friendly. Believe it or not. :-)
'Emergencies' have always been the pretext on which the safeguards of individual liberty have been eroded.
April 25th, 2019 at 7:39:42 PM
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a casino in my state used to have e-Craps/e-SicBo/e-Roulette/e-Bac
all electronic except the dice/ball/cards.
then they switched to hybrid with live dealers.
so a player can come to the mini-craps table and throw the dice. bets and chips are still electronic. the dealer enters the roll into the computer.
the casino did this because of the lower tax rate for live games vs slots. and 100% electronic tables were considered slots.
the problem with e-Games/hybrid e-Games is that the casinos raise the coin-in per tier point for them.
slots: $1 coin-in for 1 tp
vp: $2 coin-in for 1 tp
e-Games: $4 coin-in for 1 tp
and that makes no sense from my point of view.
the casino has less cost. a single dealer can service a stadium seating of 60 seats.
yet they screw over the player's tier points :(
all electronic except the dice/ball/cards.
then they switched to hybrid with live dealers.
so a player can come to the mini-craps table and throw the dice. bets and chips are still electronic. the dealer enters the roll into the computer.
the casino did this because of the lower tax rate for live games vs slots. and 100% electronic tables were considered slots.
the problem with e-Games/hybrid e-Games is that the casinos raise the coin-in per tier point for them.
slots: $1 coin-in for 1 tp
vp: $2 coin-in for 1 tp
e-Games: $4 coin-in for 1 tp
and that makes no sense from my point of view.
the casino has less cost. a single dealer can service a stadium seating of 60 seats.
yet they screw over the player's tier points :(
Craps is paradise (Pair of dice).
Lets hear it for the SpeedCount Mathletes :)
April 26th, 2019 at 8:46:30 PM
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what bothers me is none of the casino are installing the good type of video blackjack games (dealers angels aruze which is 3-2 and shows u when they shuffle on most of them at least, instead of every hand. a few dont) so many other casinos have these interblock ones which pay 6-5 and even if they have 3-2 they shuffle every hand. lots of other companies brands suck too. no one wants to play that shit. only dealers angels are worthwhile. and hardly none of the casinos in the USA that i know of use dealers angels, except a couple obscure places in southern nevada, none in northern nv and up in deadwood.
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April 26th, 2019 at 10:42:21 PM
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At Silver Legacy in Reno, the electronic stadium games always have seats available. There are more than just one or two people there only when all the tables are full. It's obvious that people want live table games. This is not a casino full of old people, so I don't believe the argument that it's only old people that want live table games and young people will play with a computer.
April 27th, 2019 at 8:05:23 AM
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I like the electronic Roulette and Craps games. The minimums are usually way lower, and there's a lot less pressure.
April 27th, 2019 at 8:18:27 AM
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Electronic games are easier to approach and learn. I still prefer Video Poker over live Poker.
April 27th, 2019 at 8:28:15 AM
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Quote: KevinAAAt Silver Legacy in Reno, the electronic stadium games always have seats available. There are more than just one or two people there only when all the tables are full. It's obvious that people want live table games. This is not a casino full of old people, so I don't believe the argument that it's only old people that want live table games and young people will play with a computer.
thats NOT why no one is playing their video blackjack versions. its because it only pays 6-5 on BJ. theres much better video BJ in laughlin and deadwood than reno. no one is going to play with those horrible payouts unless theyre stupid. not only that, their machine reshuffles every hand too. many of us in reno would prefer to play the machine version instead of live, if reno would just install one of the aruze dealers angels, instead of the sucker kind at silver legacy
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April 27th, 2019 at 8:34:47 AM
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In California, electronic craps and (except for most newer casinos, or ones that recently renegotiated their compacts (e.g. to add more Class III slots/VP)) electronic roulette are allowed, but live-action ones are not unless they use cards instead of dice/a wheel (and "card roulette" is banned where e-roulette is).
