Thread Rating:

Vegasrider
Vegasrider
Joined: Dec 23, 2017
  • Threads: 34
  • Posts: 308
January 21st, 2019 at 6:11:37 PM permalink
I come from a poker background so I'm accustomed to grinding out long sessions. Betting trips is a great way to accumulate a lot of chips if you're hitting. It's not uncommon for me to lose my initial buy in, but I do try to come out with a winning session. Im prepared to play up to 8-10 hours. I treat this game like I'm playing live poker, but with no rake!
PGBuster
PGBuster
Joined: Jan 15, 2010
  • Threads: 22
  • Posts: 99
January 22nd, 2019 at 12:52:55 AM permalink
Quote: beachbumbabs

The best paytable I've seen in the last year is Harrah's Gulf Coast (Biloxi) with 9/7/4 (FH/FL/ST). I haven't looked at WoO to know which is the .9. Everywhere else I'm playing, it's either 8/7/4 or 8/6/5. I think 8/6/5 is at IP Biloxi fwiw. ( I don't care from one to the next - if I'm playing UTH, I'm playing Trips for the table minimum.)

Edit: ok, I looked. Harrah's Gulf Coast for the .9 paytable.

I'm positive last time I was at Treasure Island in Minnesota (May of 2018), they had the full paytable too.
100xOdds
100xOdds
Joined: Feb 5, 2012
  • Threads: 500
  • Posts: 2839
February 4th, 2019 at 6:18:55 AM permalink
Played my 1st 10 sessions ever and Getting my ass kicked.
Down 100 buy ins.
$10+$10+$5 trips (1.9%) = $25
100 x 25= $2500

Should I be pressing my bets, like in craps?
Craps is paradise (Pair of dice). Lets hear it for the SpeedCount Mathletes :)
Vegasrider
Vegasrider
Joined: Dec 23, 2017
  • Threads: 34
  • Posts: 308
February 4th, 2019 at 6:31:18 AM permalink
Quote: 100xOdds

Played my 1st 10 sessions ever and Getting my ass kicked.
Down 100 buy ins.
$10+$10+$5 trips (1.9%) = $25
100 x 25= $2500

Should I be pressing my bets, like in craps?


Buy in should be minimum 200-300 with another 300 to back it up if you want to have a chance of a winning session. You will often lose your initial buy in, especially if you only buy in for 100. Prepare to play long sessions, last session I played for 10 hours just because I'm the type of player who grinds it out, but hit n runs are possible.
CharmedQuark
CharmedQuark
Joined: Apr 28, 2015
  • Threads: 8
  • Posts: 52
February 4th, 2019 at 7:49:20 AM permalink
My rule for UTH buy-in is 100 times your ante. 200-300 for a $10 ante is a bit optimistic to grind out this game. You should buy in for the full amount and don't go digging if you lose it.

Once you lose the buy-in - leave the table. You are toast. If you don't, you are just sending good money after bad.. Also, I don't play trips so if you do you would need to adjust the buy-in. Not sure how much, but I would probably add about another 25%. per $5 bet.
Vegasrider
Vegasrider
Joined: Dec 23, 2017
  • Threads: 34
  • Posts: 308
February 4th, 2019 at 9:13:48 AM permalink
I come from a poker background by playing live for decades so transitioning to UTH, I apply the same principles. When you play poker, you often need to reload, you may lose a good portion or all of your initial buy in. You must also prepare to play long sessions. Cant play watching the clock. And you need to make the right decisions, applying basic strategy, take advantage of the 4X bets, know when to make them.

For those who play trips, you may want to consider betting it with a separate bankroll keep your bets and winnings separately. Dont combine it with your regular play bets. This way, you can view your trips wins or losses. If you sit at 1st or 3rd base, that will allow you extra room to do so.
beachbumbabs
Administrator
beachbumbabs
Joined: May 21, 2013
  • Threads: 97
  • Posts: 13929
February 4th, 2019 at 11:18:34 AM permalink
I find the game to be a roller-coaster, not a dumpster fire. You have to hang on and let the cards turn, and then get up when you're ahead (that's often the hardest part, when the cards are running good).

That takes a large br. Your average bet at a $5 table with optimal strategy is a little over $20. 200-300 is only 10-15 bets worrh- it's just not enough to survive the downturns.

And yeah, no time constraints. You have to ride it out.

I realize there's some gambler's fallacy baked into my advice, and you're really playing one long session. But the stop loss point is also a good idea when it's absolute crap. If you're in a slow-bleed session, it only takes a little to turn it around - that's the time to grind until you're up.

All based on my experiences with the game. The most important thing, when you're losing, is not to.chicken out and bet 3x, or check a marginal.4x or.2x, thinking you're saving money. That's where all your winnings are coming from. You have to trust the math and the averages.

Fortune favors the bold.
If the House lost every hand, they wouldn't deal the game.
Vegasrider
Vegasrider
Joined: Dec 23, 2017
  • Threads: 34
  • Posts: 308
February 4th, 2019 at 11:33:31 AM permalink
Serous about winning vs fun or entertaining, big differences. Which won are you? You cant go to a casino and take the game seriously if you arrive sharing a ride or expect to win on your initial buy in. If you're running good, dont quit. Usually that happens once a year, when it's your night its your night. If you're running bad, after multiple rebuys, then quit. Time is a critical variable that often goes overlooked when it comes to winning or losingg. Make sure you arrive and leave alone. Dont have somebody dictate when to leave. Leave on your own accord.
100xOdds
100xOdds
Joined: Feb 5, 2012
  • Threads: 500
  • Posts: 2839
Thanks for this post from:
JimRockford
February 6th, 2019 at 5:48:13 AM permalink
Quote: CharmedQuark

My rule for UTH buy-in is 100 times your ante. 200-300 for a $10 ante is a bit optimistic to grind out this game. You should buy in for the full amount and don't go digging if you lose it.

Once you lose the buy-in - leave the table. You are toast. If you don't, you are just sending good money after bad.. Also, I don't play trips so if you do you would need to adjust the buy-in. Not sure how much, but I would probably add about another 25%. per $5 bet.


I sit with$500 betting $10 ante,$10 blind and$5 trips.
So 20x.

100 times the ante?
So basically 40x my bet aka $1000
Craps is paradise (Pair of dice). Lets hear it for the SpeedCount Mathletes :)
100xOdds
100xOdds
Joined: Feb 5, 2012
  • Threads: 500
  • Posts: 2839
February 6th, 2019 at 5:54:29 AM permalink
Quote: beachbumbabs

That takes a large br. Your average bet at a $5 table with optimal strategy is a little over $20. 200-300 is only 10-15 bets worrh- it's just not enough to survive the downturns.

And yeah, no time constraints. You have to ride it out.

I realize there's some gambler's fallacy baked into my advice, and you're really playing one long session. But the stop loss point is also a good idea when it's absolute crap. If you're in a slow-bleed session, it only takes a little to turn it around - that's the time to grind until you're up.

avg bet= 4x?
So for $10 ante,$10 blinds and$5 trips, it's considered $25x4=100?

how much would you bring when being$10 ante,$10 blinds,$5 trips ($25 total)?
Craps is paradise (Pair of dice). Lets hear it for the SpeedCount Mathletes :)

  • Jump to: