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IAchance5
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October 26th, 2010 at 5:28:43 PM permalink
A casino that is in Biloxi, MS has some craps bonus bets which are probably sucker bets, but I was wonder what the probabilities were:

ALL OR NOTHING AT ALL
All the numbers BUT seven will be rolled before a 7.
Pays 175-to-1.

TWICE IS NICE
Any random “hardway”... 2 (1-1), 4 (2-2), 6 (3-3), 8 (4-4), 10 (5-5) or 12
(6-6)... will be rolled twice before a 7. Pays 6-to-1.

PETE & REPEAT
Any random number will be rolled twice before a 7.
Pays Even Money.

These seem like they have to be a lot harder than the payouts....so can anyone do the math?
DJTeddyBear
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October 26th, 2010 at 6:34:31 PM permalink
The All bet is listed here: http://wizardofodds.com/craps/appendix4.html

The other bets may be there as well, or on other appendix pages.
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RaleighCraps
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October 26th, 2010 at 6:50:23 PM permalink
somebody's been to the IP casino;-)
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October 27th, 2010 at 4:38:53 AM permalink
Quote: IAchance5

MS has some craps bonus bets which are probably sucker bets



"probably"?
DJTeddyBear
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October 27th, 2010 at 5:34:21 AM permalink
Quote: RaleighCraps

somebody's been to the IP casino;-)

I suppose you're referring to me, but what has that got to do with anything? IP does NOT have that bet.
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October 27th, 2010 at 9:36:47 AM permalink
For Twice as Nice I get a probability of winning of 10.09%, and a house edge of 29.40%.

For Pete and Repeat I get a probability of winning of 47.11% and a house edge of 5.69%.

May I ask which casino this was seen at?

This reminds me of a joke that I love to use on anyone between the ages of about 4 to 7:

A: Pete and Repeat were in a boat. Pete fell out. Who is left?
B: Repeat.
A: Pete and Repeat were in a boat. Pete fell out. Who is left?
B: Repeat.
A: Pete and Repeat were in a boat. Pete fell out. Who is left?
B: Repeat.
(keep repeating infinitely, or until anyone over the age of 7 begs you two to stop.)
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October 27th, 2010 at 9:46:07 AM permalink
These bets were talked about in a previous thread.
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October 27th, 2010 at 10:16:57 AM permalink
Quote: miplet

These bets were talked about in a previous thread.



Thanks, I'm surprised I missed that first thread. These bets make for a great simple exercise in recursive programming.
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Ayecarumba
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October 27th, 2010 at 12:19:39 PM permalink
Quote: IAchance5

A casino that is in Biloxi, MS has some craps bonus bets which are probably sucker bets, but I was wonder what the probabilities were:

ALL OR NOTHING AT ALL
All the numbers BUT seven will be rolled before a 7.
Pays 175-to-1.



How do they keep track of all this "middle of the table" action?

What happens if you have an, "All" bet working when the shooter makes a point and decides to walk away? Does your bet carry to the next shooter?
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October 27th, 2010 at 12:43:37 PM permalink
Quote: Ayecarumba

How do they keep track of all this "middle of the table" action?

What happens if you have an, "All" bet working when the shooter makes a point and decides to walk away? Does your bet carry to the next shooter?



I saw it at Sam's town, and they had little lammers for each number that'd they'd use to track what had already be rolled. They only came out if someone made the bet.

The bet is all numbers before a seven, so the next shooter would be up to continue the roll if someone walked away.
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