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October 7th, 2018 at 6:39:38 PM permalink
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Rfid Poker Table: Gaming Equipment | Abbiati Casino Equipment
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jZDnY_RdC24

RFID Reading 1000 Casino Chips in 3.5 seconds
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uVZNkHdQyX4
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October 7th, 2018 at 6:49:04 PM permalink
Can I take the casino chips home and cash it some other day in the future?
https://www.quora.com/Can-I-take-the-casino-chips-home-and-cash-it-some-other-day-in-the-future

Can you bring home chips from a casino
https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/32/beginners-questions/can-you-bring-home-chips-casino-1294458/

dgiharris wrote 01-30-2013:
I just want to say that if you take chips home from the casino, just don't take any chips larger than $100 and definitely don't take home $1k chips.

Most people do not know this, but casinos are not required to cash your chips. This is a non-issue for $100 or even $500 chips. Casinos will cash those chips without blinking an eye. However, many casinos have strict policies governing the big $1k+ chips.

The casino cage personnel will ask you what games you were playing and then call the pit bosses of those games to verify you were in fact playing. If you respond, "Oh, well, I have these chips from last time I was here a month ago..." unless you can prove it with a player's card that tracked your play, they can refuse to cash the chip.

So basically, if you are going to take chips home, don't take home more than a couple of thousand worth of $100 chips...
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October 7th, 2018 at 6:52:12 PM permalink
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What's this about?

Rfid Poker Table: Gaming Equipment | Abbiati Casino Equipment
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jZDnY_RdC24

RFID Reading 1000 Casino Chips in 3.5 seconds
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uVZNkHdQyX4



well for one, so someone like me cant pass off even the best looking fake chips to the casino as real. everyone of those chips has a unique id, and cant be replicated, because if they were replicated, the system would immediately display a warning to someone, and there also cant be more than the amount made or that the system allows. a casino operators wet dream. you can physically track any chip on the floor everywhere it goes depending on how powerful of radios you get. the possibilities are endless. less human accounting needed. no more needing to count the amounts. endless i tell you.

is that kind of the answer you wanted?
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October 7th, 2018 at 6:58:56 PM permalink
If I Find a Casino Chip on the Floor, Is It Mine To Keep?
https://www.lasvegasadvisor.com/faq-gambling-finders-keepers/

But the only time that Regulation 12.060 will come into effect is if the chip is of a relatively high denomination in terms of the establishment norm (i.e., $500 might catch the attention of a downtown cage, but it might take a $1,000 chip to arouse any suspicion at the big Strip casinos). If the casino suspects that a large chip isn't yours, then the cage is within its rights to question where and when you won it and would be able to verify this from the records at the table where you might claim to have gotten it. But if it's a chip worth $100 or less, it's much harder for them to trace, since so many of them are in play at any time and it probably wouldn't be considered worth the time or effort to verify ownership.
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October 7th, 2018 at 7:05:45 PM permalink
Chips no longer good as cash - March 9, 2007
https://lasvegassun.com/news/2007/mar/09/chips-no-longer-good-cash/

In some cases, regulators have stepped in on customers' behalf to order that chips be cashed.
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October 7th, 2018 at 7:12:22 PM permalink
THE $100,000 GAMING CHIP: GOT YOUR ATTENTION?
http://blog.caesars.com/las-vegas/las-vegas-hotels/caesars-palace/the-100000-gaming-chip-got-your-attention/

As we got a closer look at this majestic $100,000 chip, we noticed a little speck on it, and were ready to Photoshop it away, but then realized it wasn’t a speck after all. It’s a computer chip, adhered to the baccarat chip for top secret security reasons.
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October 7th, 2018 at 7:13:35 PM permalink
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If I Find a Casino Chip on the Floor, Is It Mine To Keep?



if tables can keep track of which positions they have paid out, and how much, then the chips can be attached to a player. Not only that, losing a chip could theoretically be impossible IF the player is given a way to keep track of those chips themselves. Newer phones might have this ability to download the chips that have been won by whichever player has won them and keep track of them physically by constantly querying if the chip is within a specific distance from the tracker (aka your phone or a radio) and losing a chip on the floor would then be made into a theft if picked up by another patron who wouldnt own the chip
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October 7th, 2018 at 7:19:33 PM permalink
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THE $100,000 GAMING CHIP: GOT YOUR ATTENTION?
http://blog.caesars.com/las-vegas/las-vegas-hotels/caesars-palace/the-100000-gaming-chip-got-your-attention/

As we got a closer look at this majestic $100,000 chip, we noticed a little speck on it, and were ready to Photoshop it away, but then realized it wasn’t a speck after all. It’s a computer chip, adhered to the baccarat chip for top secret security reasons.



here is an older article that has always interested me because it gives a history of the chips

http://www.rouletteresearch.com/research.aspx

and go down to

‘The history of the casino chip’

from 1997, written by a person who is an engineer for TCS John Huxley or was
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October 7th, 2018 at 8:47:07 PM permalink
RFID Casino Chips - November 5, 2012
https://www.blackjackinfo.com/rfid-casino-chips/

Probably the most compelling casino benefit provided by RFID is the ability to validate and authenticate high-value chips. Counterfeit chips can be a major threat to a casino, and having each chip embedded with a radio tag and serial number can be a powerful weapon against fraud. Consider the risk posed by a manufacturer shipping millions of dollars of chips to the casino. With RFID, those chips are just useless tokens until the serial numbers are officially added to the inventory at the casino.

RFID tags could potentially allow a casino to “assign” chips to a particular player who won them at the table. If the casino knows who you are (or at least has an assigned profile for you), then chips could be tagged to you specifically. If those chips disappear out of the casino inventory for a time, if you like to stockpile chips for future play, this information would be a problem, especially if someone other than the original player eventually plays the chip or cashes it at the cashier.

For now, the principle threat that RFID poses to blackjack players is that it may be difficult or impossible to inflate your average bet rating at the table.
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