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June 5th, 2018 at 6:56:34 PM permalink
I like to check the check the list of New Field Trial Games on a regular basis. Starting on May 31 was Premium Hold 'Em at the Mont Bleu in Lake Tahoe. I've never seen any casino in Lake Tahoe do a field trial before. All you game inventors on the forum should add them to your list of casinos to pitch to. If you meet the DTG (Director of Table Games), please ask him what happened to their two Derby games.

The AGS web site seems to be down so I don't know anything about this one. After Black Jackpot and Flip 'It, the last two field trial games, I'm eager to ... see a change.

I'll report back if I get any more information. Feel free to beat me to it.
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June 6th, 2018 at 1:11:29 PM permalink
The site seems to be up now. The game seems okay, just another Hold'em game but you get three hole cards and only four community cards.

http://playags.com/portfolio/premium-holdem/
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June 6th, 2018 at 1:30:08 PM permalink
Quote: DRich

The site seems to be up now. The game seems okay, just another Hold'em game but you get three hole cards and only four community cards.

http://playags.com/portfolio/premium-holdem/


Link doesn't work for me.
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June 6th, 2018 at 1:44:27 PM permalink
The AGS site is down again. That site goes down more often than { insert punchline here. }
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June 6th, 2018 at 1:53:43 PM permalink
This game is also at Harrah's Resort Southern CA.

AGS site is up, here is pdf of the rack card: http://playags.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/PremiumRackCard.pdf
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June 6th, 2018 at 2:34:39 PM permalink
This game is like this:

Player makes a mandatory Ante Bet and Ante Bonus Bet.
Player see his 3 cards. May make a Play bet of 3X or check.
The 4 community cards are revealed all at once.
Player may make a Play bet of 2X, 1X or Fold.

Dealer's cards are revealed. If dealer DNQ with a pair of 3s or higher, your ante bet pushes.
Ante Bonus Bet payouts start at Straight 1:1; you must beat dealer to collect Ante Bonus payouts.
Play Bet pays 1:1 if you beat dealer.

V similar to UTH.

My 1st impression -it will take a very good first 3 cards to justify making a 3X bet. Because your alternative is to check and see 4 cards (a lot of information) and be able to Bet 2x, 1x or fold.

So your first 3 cards will need to be 3oak or a high pair to make a 3X bet. I don't even think three suited high cards (like AKQ suited) will be good enough for a 3X bet.
Last edited by: gordonm888 on Jun 6, 2018
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June 6th, 2018 at 2:48:45 PM permalink
Quote: gordonm888

My 1st impression -it will take a very good first 3 cards to justify making a 3X bet. Because your alternative is to check and see 4 cards (a lot of information) and be able to Bet 2x, 1x or fold.

So your first 3 cards will need to be 3oak or a high pair to make a 3X bet. I don't even think three suited high cards (like AKQ suited) will be good enough for a 3X bet.


I wonder if this means players will "play" this game more optimally than UTH as the 3X decision will require a "duh, your hand is awesome" to bet. Whereas UTH, you will rarely see a K/5 os hand bet 4X or the J/10 bet 4X which is the optimal play, IIRC. Those and similar mistakes contribute fairly significantly to the house win in UTH.

Player's playing better would be a bad outcome for the house that installs Premium Hold'em. Most UTH player's play so poorly the game holds really well and still generates a lot of play. UTH is a category killer...I would not be in the business of trying to come up with a rival. That being said PGD (Rest in Peace) added a lot with the bad beat built in bonus to Heads Up Hold'em, but even Galaxy had to adjust pay tables early on as reducing the 4X decision to a 3X decision made player mistakes in not betting on the first two cards less penalizing (hope that makes sense).

I believed I played Premium Hold'em at G2E and came away not seeing any significant addition to the UTH experience.
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June 6th, 2018 at 3:21:47 PM permalink
I believe AGS still has a field trial at Golden Nugget Laughlin for Gin & Win. It doesn't sound like a game that I would play.

http://www.playags.com/GinAndWin/
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June 6th, 2018 at 5:29:12 PM permalink
Here is a demo game from the AGS web site, which is up as of this posting. It also shows the X-Tra Bonus pay table, if you were wondering about that. I may as well write it down, in case the AGS site goes down again.

Royal flush: 500
Straight flush: 100
Four of a kind: 10
Full house: 3
Flush: 1.5
Straight: 1

In other words, it is the same as the Blind pay table in Ultimate Texas Hold 'Em, except a straight flush pays 100, as opposed to 50.
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June 6th, 2018 at 5:32:39 PM permalink
So.

Yet another game using Roger Snow's and Elliot Frome"s IP. And not the only one from AGS.

Very sad.
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