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charlestfuller
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December 5th, 2016 at 8:06:29 PM permalink
Seems like a fun game to try and play with your friends at a weekly poker game, not in the casino. Collusion and needing to play with multiple players would be considerable drawbacks.
Paigowdan
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December 5th, 2016 at 9:35:32 PM permalink
Quote: Wizard

Since the system already knows every player's cards and actions, it should be quite possible to program red flags for collusion. Like frequently taking cards that can't help you, especially if this is done is correlated to another particular player winning. I'm sure the colluding players would try to figure out what sets off the red flags and then use camouflage. I don't know much about the casinos response and responsibilities about collusion in real poker, but maybe something can be learned from that.


True.
But having a game that requires reactive policing to keep it safely playable is a major drawback, as opposed to a new game that has inherent game protection, all other things being equal.
This is the "dump and die" aspect of game protection for new games: casinos don't want to take on this risk if present, and more are making game protection a requirement, or are at least aware of it. It's not enough to be catchy and dealable, it has to also be safe. Steve How could review this for Gamblit.
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December 6th, 2016 at 3:51:58 AM permalink
Very interesting and unique, like a cross between Three Card Poker and Whac-a-Mole. The concept is surprisingly refreshing, and possibly revolutionary.
mrsuit31
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December 6th, 2016 at 8:12:27 AM permalink
Quote: TheoHuxtable

From the casino's perspective a full table could produce as much hourly revenue as a $1/$2 NLHE game. It's hard for me to picture people playing Gamblit Poker for 8+ hours which makes it unlikely to see this table full outside of peak hours.



One thing I did want to add... While playing the game at the show, I asked if this was meant for the floor or the poker room"? The answer was that this is meant for the floor. Therefore, the statements regarding making the same amount of money as a 1/2 game, doesn't really make any difference. The only relevant question is will this make as much money as another table game such as BJ, 3CP, Miss Stud etc....?
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IndyJeffrey
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December 6th, 2016 at 9:48:52 AM permalink
Quote: beachbumbabs

Collusion is huge. A team playing against others can claim a card they don't need in their lesser hand that would fill a non teamers hand. Maybe dealing the first card face down can combat some of this, as it would keep your competition from seeing what you're waiting for. Example from the video of person getting 3oak on the last card; someone else can grab that card, leaving the straight as the best hand.



The video makes this game look very fun. I wonder, noted shortcomings aside, some casino may use this game to test many of the durability concerns people have expressed with the button. As we know, if this is half successful, there will be a million two imitations.

I don't like the fixed ante -- and I suspect people who are 'hot' will get frustrated by not being able to increase bet size.

I don't think I would play this game WITHOUT partners to collude. I mean I would love to play without partners, but if you look around and cannot spot the sucker...
kmumf
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December 6th, 2016 at 9:54:55 AM permalink
This machine will be great for the get drunk lose money slow and have fun crowd. So I would be the loud button smashing idiot on this machine.

I want a free cheese quesadilla!
mrsuit31
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IndyJeffrey
December 6th, 2016 at 1:10:18 PM permalink
Quote: IndyJeffrey

I wonder, noted shortcomings aside, some casino may use this game to test many of the durability concerns people have expressed with the button.



In reality, it is the Gaming Commission's lab that will be the ones to test this, prior to its entry onto the floor....
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Rigondeaux
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December 6th, 2016 at 1:26:31 PM permalink
Quote: DJTeddyBear

That period screwed up the link. Try this:
http://berksmontnews.com/article/BM/20151118/NEWS/151119904



Being blind is still a major disadvantage. You could also look at the reader and try to read his lips or Guage his reactions. Plus, you know exactly when the blind guy is learning about the cards.

Other disabilities prevent players from protecting their hands and they just have to hope their neighbors make an effort to not see their cards.

Others might struggle more to conceal their reactions, or what they are looking at.

There's only so much you can do. If the disabled persons can get to the game and participate, that seems to be reasonable.
AxelWolf
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December 6th, 2016 at 5:54:51 PM permalink
Heads up even at $10 a hand VS a slow/bad player could be fairly valuable. I can imagine someone sitting there waiting for a sucker to sit down.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
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December 7th, 2016 at 6:59:58 PM permalink
This game looks super fun, but as presented, I would never play it, fearing the collusion angle.

I think the collusion aspect could be fixed, but it would be at the expense of player interaction - specifically, the game should look like an e-poker table such that each player has a display where you can see your card and you can see which cards are in other players' hands, but you wouldn't know who has which cards.

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