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February 5th, 2016 at 10:54:27 AM permalink
If a person happened to find a casino with a single zero roulette that took neighbor bets, what would be the player advantage if the dealer left up the neighbor bet after it hit instead of taking it down?

ie. You bet $5 on a five number neighbors bet and when it hits they pay $35 and leave the original $5 on the layout.

The way I see it is as if they were paying 39 to 1 and only 37 numbers on the wheel. So would that be a 5.5% advantage or am I missing something?
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February 5th, 2016 at 12:24:51 PM permalink
You're missing something.

Let's say the bet stays for two spins no matter what.

That means it's paying 35 to 2, or 70 to 1.

70 / 37 = 1.89, a HUGE advantage.
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February 5th, 2016 at 12:30:12 PM permalink
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...ie. You bet $5 on a five number neighbors bet and when it hits they pay $35 and leave the original $5 on the layout...

Unless I'm missing something this seems normal? If you bet Red $10, and red hits... They pay you $10 and leave your original wager. The same with a number straight up. They shouldn't ever be taking winning wagers away. My apologies if I missed something but this is what it sounded like you said to me. Perhaps define your number neighbors bet for me please?
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February 5th, 2016 at 12:37:06 PM permalink
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Unless I'm missing something this seems normal? If you bet Red $10, and red hits... They pay you $10 and leave your original wager. The same with a number straight up. They shouldn't ever be taking winning wagers away. My apologies if I missed something but this is what it sounded like you said to me. Perhaps define your number neighbors bet for me please?



When you make this bet it is the same as betting $1 on each of the five numbers. So when one of your numbers hit you still lose the other 4 1$ bets that didn't hit.
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February 5th, 2016 at 12:40:51 PM permalink
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You're missing something.

Let's say the bet stays for two spins no matter what.

That means it's paying 35 to 2, or 70 to 1.

70 / 37 = 1.89, a HUGE advantage.



The bet only stays up if one of your five numbers hit. Most places either take down the neighbor bet or reduce the payout from 7/1 to 6/1. I think what I am seeing is just a dealer error.
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February 5th, 2016 at 12:45:23 PM permalink
(35*5-5*32)/37/5 = 8.1%
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February 5th, 2016 at 12:49:24 PM permalink
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If a person happened to find a casino with a single zero roulette that took neighbor bets, what would be the player advantage if the dealer left up the neighbor bet after it hit instead of taking it down?

ie. You bet $5 on a five number neighbors bet and when it hits they pay $35 and leave the original $5 on the layout.

The way I see it is as if they were paying 39 to 1 and only 37 numbers on the wheel. So would that be a 5.5% advantage or am I missing something?



The way I figure it you risk $5 37 times, which costs you $185. You will receive the $35 plus your $5 back 5 times, so your $185 returns $200. So for each bet of $5 you would receive $5.4054. To me that is an 8.1% advantage.
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February 5th, 2016 at 12:55:05 PM permalink
Ah, a quick bit of research reveals this seems to be more of a European bet? I haven't seen it at least, and wouldn't even know how to bet it =P.

After reviewing the bet and what it means though, yeah I'll jump on the bandwagon of the 8.1%.
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February 5th, 2016 at 12:58:15 PM permalink
Thanks guys. That is even bigger than I assumed.
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February 5th, 2016 at 9:41:07 PM permalink
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You're missing something.

Let's say the bet stays for two spins no matter what.

That means it's paying 35 to 2, or 70 to 1.

70 / 37 = 1.89, a HUGE advantage.

Wait a sec...

I misread the initial post.

My math is if they leave a single number bet up after it loses. Not the same thing at all...
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February 6th, 2016 at 4:20:44 AM permalink
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If a person happened to find a casino with a single zero roulette that took neighbor bets, what would be the player advantage if the dealer left up the neighbor bet after it hit instead of taking it down?

ie. You bet $5 on a five number neighbors bet and when it hits they pay $35 and leave the original $5 on the layout.

The way I see it is as if they were paying 39 to 1 and only 37 numbers on the wheel. So would that be a 5.5% advantage or am I missing something?

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February 6th, 2016 at 12:30:18 PM permalink
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If a person happened to find a casino with a single zero roulette that took neighbor bets, what would be the player advantage if the dealer left up the neighbor bet after it hit instead of taking it down?

ie. You bet $5 on a five number neighbors bet and when it hits they pay $35 and leave the original $5 on the layout.

The way I see it is as if they were paying 39 to 1 and only 37 numbers on the wheel. So would that be a 5.5% advantage or am I missing something?



an european single zero roulette has 37 numbers and pays out 35x and leaves the bet on the number that was hit so all together the payout is 36x the bet amount

why should there be an advantage? each european casino will leave the original bet amount on the number that was hit.

or did I misunderstand your question?
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February 6th, 2016 at 1:36:55 PM permalink
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an european single zero roulette has 37 numbers and pays out 35x and leaves the bet on the number that was hit so all together the payout is 36x the bet amount

why should there be an advantage? each european casino will leave the original bet amount on the number that was hit.

or did I misunderstand your question?



You did misunderstand. He said that in addition to the $1 returned to him on the winning number, the casino was also returning the $4 that was lost on the 4 losing numbers.
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February 7th, 2016 at 4:21:47 AM permalink
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You did misunderstand. He said that in addition to the $1 returned to him on the winning number, the casino was also returning the $4 that was lost on the 4 losing numbers.



thank you for explaining where my mistake was. in this case please let me know
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