Pai Gow Tiles - Alternate Shuffling of Tiles

Last time I was in vegas I was playing with some pretty experienced players and they were speaking to the dealer in chinese and he was rearranging the stacks of tiles after shuffling. After they are in the stacks they would say something and the dealer would move 4 from one side to the other or move two to one side and a couple from the middle. It seemed like there was a number of different shuffles. Does this sound like something people have seen before. This is done before the dice are rolled but just changes the game up a little bit.

That was probably just the usual Chinese superstition. There are lots of ways the tiles can be "cut," but I think some casinos are clamping down on moving them around too much.

It has occurred to me before that if the player knew the location of the gee joon and/or teen tiles he could increase his probability of getting them by cutting them in such a way as to get them on a roll of 10 or 11 (the most likely). However, putting the legal and moral issues aside, I doubt it would be enough to overcome the house edge.

Quote: Wizard

That was probably just the usual Chinese superstition. There are lots of ways the tiles can be "cut," but I think some casinos are clamping down on moving them around too much.

It has occurred to me before that if the player knew the location of the gee joon and/or teen tiles he could increase his probability of getting them by cutting them in such a way as to get them on a roll of 10 or 11 (the most likely). However, putting the legal and moral issues aside, I doubt it would be enough to overcome the house edge.

I've never played tiles, but in the poker varient each spot has a 31/216 of getting the first cards exept 7/14 spot its 30/216 .

Quote: miplet

I've never played tiles, but in the poker varient each spot has a 31/216 of getting the first cards exept 7/14 spot its 30/216 .

Shoot, I forgot how each position can have multiple totals. What would I do with you Miplet?

where I deal there is no cutting allowed....I have seen cutting allowed if a player was banking.....never heard of anyone cutting a house banked hand....also, it is strictly forbidden for the dealer to converse in any language other than english.

When I was playing at the Peppermill in Reno the other player was banking as often as he could (a smart move) he had been making bets of roughly $500-$1000 a hand the whole time I played (about 30 min) I had never seen so many black and purple chips in my life next to me. He was asking for some special kind of cut in Chinese to the dealer who switched some stuff around. I ended up winning and the dealer had to make change for him to give me two red chips :) When they switched dealers he got really upset because the dealer didn't speak Chinese and messed up the order of passing out the tiles, I told her I don't really care which pile I get but he threw a big fit! His superstitions seemed to pay off because when he bet big he seemed to always win and when he scaled back he lost.

Quote: scottndindy

Last time I was in vegas I was playing with some pretty experienced players and they were speaking to the dealer in chinese and he was rearranging the stacks of tiles after shuffling. After they are in the stacks they would say something and the dealer would move 4 from one side to the other or move two to one side and a couple from the middle. It seemed like there was a number of different shuffles. Does this sound like something people have seen before. This is done before the dice are rolled but just changes the game up a little bit.

Don't know how to spell it but it's called a "lar-jar". Just a way to further shuffle the tiles (after the usual shuffle and cut) if the players think they are having a bad run. Just supersicion. There are several different ways they can do it depending on what the player asks for. Get them to do a "grab and slide" for something interesting.

Where I play they no longer allow players to request it except in the members only high limit room.

There are ten different shuffles for Pai Gow Tiles. The House Way is the basic shuffle, dealt from the left. You can also specify House Way Right. You can only specify the shuffle when you are banking.
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I learned all the shuffles the first time I went to Atlantic City. I walked through all the casinos on the Boardwalk, playing tiles in each one. Caesars Palace had the friendliest, most knowledgeable dealers and the nicest room. I got a heads up game with a very nice dealer who let me bank every other turn, betting $20 each time. I tried all the shuffles. The best one is called the dragon's tail, where they sort of create a "tail" out of the dominoes and deal the hands out from it. Whenever I play Pai Gow at other places now I always check to see if the dealer knows this shuffle.* (By the way, at the end of my session betting yellows at Caesars they let me talk to the host, who offered me the casino rate at their hotel, which I thought was nice. I recommend checking out their room if you are ever in A.C.)

*The most recent time I played at Horseshoe Hammond, not only did the dealer not know the shuffles, they don't even let you bank!

Edit: Thanks for the info, Scott.

I found a bit of information on the state of Wisconsin's gambling rules. Sorry about the length.


(i) House way from the right: The dealer shall indicate the use of house way from the right by pushing forward the first stack of tiles on the dealer's right. The dealer shall deliver the stack pushed forward to the starting position. The remaining stacks of tiles shall be delivered from the dealer's right to left

(ii) House way from the left: The dealer shall indicate the use of house way from the left by pushing forward the first stack of tiles on the dealer's left. The dealer shall deliver the stack pushed forward to the starting position. The remaining stacks of tiles shall be delivered from the dealer's left to right.

(iii) Cup say (pick four) from the right: The dealer shall indicate the use of cup say from the right by pushing forward the first two stacks of tiles on the dealer's right. The dealer shall deliver the top two tiles from each of the two stacks pushed forward to the starting position. The four remaining tiles pushed forward shall be delivered to the next position. The remaining stacks of tiles shall be delivered from the dealer's right to left in the same manner as the first two stacks.

(iv) Cup say (pick four) from the left: The dealer shall indicate the use of cup say from the left by pushing forward the first two stacks of tiles on the dealer's left. The dealer shall deliver the top two tiles from each of the two stacks pushed forward to the starting position. The four remaining tiles pushed forward shall be delivered to the next position. The remaining stacks of tiles shall be delivered from the dealer's left to right in the same manner as the first two stacks.


(v) Jung quat (take the heart): The dealer shall indicate the use of jung quat by pushing forward the fourth stack of tiles from the dealer's right and the fourth stack of tiles from the dealer's left (the two center stacks of the eight). The dealer shall deliver the top two tiles from each of the two stacks pushed forward to the starting position. The four remaining tiles pushed forward shall be delivered to the next position. The remaining stacks shall be pushed together and the two new center stacks shall be pushed forward and delivered in the same manner as the first two stacks. This procedure shall be repeated until all eight stacks of tiles have been delivered.

(vi) Chee yee (chop the ears): The dealer shall indicate the use of chee yee by pushing forward the first stack of tiles on the dealer's right and the first stack of tiles on the dealer's left. To deliver the tiles, the dealer shall center the two stacks pushed forward in front of the remaining stacks. The dealer shall deliver the top two tiles from each of the two centered stacks to the starting position. The four remaining tiles from the two centered stacks shall be delivered to the next position. The dealer shall then center and deliver the first stack remaining on the dealer's left in the same manner. This procedure shall be repeated until all eight stacks of tiles have been delivered.

(vii) Pin say (slice four) from the right: The dealer shall indicate the use of pin say from the right by removing the top tile of the first stack of tiles on the dealer's right and place it diagonally across the top of the second, third and fourth stacks of tiles from the dealer's right. The dealer shall deliver the top tile from each of the first four stacks on the dealer's right to the starting position (the diagonal tile plus the three tiles it covers). The top tile from each of the first four stacks on the dealer's left shall be delivered to the next position. The top tile remaining on each of the first four stacks on the dealer's right shall be delivered to the third position and the top tile remaining on each of the first four stacks on the dealer's left shall be to the fourth position. This procedure shall be repeated until four tiles have been delivered to all eight positions.

(viii) Pin say (slice four) from the left: The dealer shall indicate the use of pin say from the left by removing the top tile of the first stack of tiles on the dealer's left and placing it diagonally across the top of the second, third and fourth stacks of tiles from the dealer's left. The dealer shall deliver the top tile from each of the first four stacks on the dealer's left to the starting position (the diagonal tiles plus the three tiles it covers). The top tile from each of the first four stacks on the dealer's right shall be delivered to the next position. The top tile remaining on each of the first four stacks on the dealer's left shall be delivered to the third position and the top tile remaining on each of the first four stacks on the dealer's right shall be delivered to the fourth position. This procedure shall be repeated until four tiles have been delivered to all eight positions.

(ix) Dragon head and phoenix tail from the right: The dealer shall indicate the use of dragon head and phoenix tail from the right by placing all four tiles in the first and second stacks from the dealer's right directly on top of the four tiles in third and fourth stacks from the dealer's right and then pushing forward the top two tiles in each of the eight tile stacks that are created (forming the "dragon head"). The dealer shall deliver the four tiles pushed forward to the starting position. The top tile from each of the four stacks of four tiles to the dealer's left (the "phoenix tail") shall be delivered to the next position. The dealer shall deliver the top two tiles from each of the two stacks on the dealer's right to the third position and the top tile from each of the four stacks on the dealer's left to the fourth position. This procedure shall be repeated until four tiles have been delivered to all eight positions.


x) Dragon head and phoenix tail from the left: The dealer shall indicate the use of dragon head and phoenix tail from the left by placing all four tiles in the first and second stacks from the dealer's left directly on top of the four tiles in the third and fourth stacks from the dealer's left and then pushing forward the top two tiles in each of the eight tile stacks that are created (forming the "dragon head"). The dealer shall deliver the four tiles pushed forward to the starting position. The top tile from each of the four stacks of four tiles to the dealer's right (the "phoenix tail") shall be delivered to the next position. The dealer shall deliver the top two tiles from each of the two stacks on the dealer's left to the third position and the top tile from each of the four stacks on the dealer's right to the fourth position. This procedure shall be repeated until four tiles have been delivered to all eight positions.

Those are the normal cuts and are usually determined at random. What was mentioned a the start of the thread is an extra shuffle done after all of that has been completed. As I said it is called a "lar jar".

Terminology surrounding how the tiles get moved around before the hand actually begins can be imprecise. Specifically, the words “shuffle,” “stack,” “cut,” “move,” “set-up” and “delivery” all have clearly defined, and different, meanings, but are often mixed up in describing what goes on. Here are some useful distinctions:

The SHUFFLE is the process of “washing” the tiles that the dealer goes through after the previous hand is finished. All tiles should be face down throughout the shuffle. Different houses may have different rules for how much washing the dealer has to do. One place I dealt said a minimum of eight circular motions with both hands (going in opposite directions), and if a tile got exposed eight more without a tile getting exposed. Other places will require a complete re-shuffle only after a teen, day or Gee (half a Gee Joon) is exposed, with only a few additional motions after any other tile is exposed. Others will leave it to the dealer’s judgment (subject, of course, to the floor supervisor’s judgment).

STACKING is the process of getting the washed tiles into eight piles, each four tiles high. This is done either by stacking tiles four high until they’re all done, or (the standard in Las Vegas) stacking the tiles into four stacks eight tiles high each, and then lifting the top four tiles from all stacks and placing them next to the remaining stacks, creating eight stacks four tiles high.

SET-UP FOR DELIVERY: If the house is banking, the only delivery allowed is the “house way” – one stack at a time, from the dealer’s right to the left, counterclockwise around the table. This delivery is set up simply by advancing the stack on the dealer’s right an inch or so forward. Other set-ups are discussed below.

All the other steps noted below only come into play (usually) when a player is banking. I am not aware of any casino where cutting, moving, or deliveries other than the house way are permitted when the house is banking.

CUTTING: If a player is banking, the dealer usually sets the “woodpile” (the eight stacks of tiles) in front of the player-banker, who is allowed to cut and/or move the tiles. A “cut” involves taking one or more stacks from any point in the woodpile (other than a stack on the end), advancing it (or them) so that it (or they) completely clears the rest of the woodpile, moving it (or them) to either end of the woodpile, and closing up the gaps so that the woodpile again consists of eight stacks four tiles high. Four example, a player-banker might take the 2nd and 3rd stacks from his left, move them out of the woodpile, and put them on the extreme right end of the woodpile, and close the gap. In this case, the original stack order (reading from the player-banker’s left) of 1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8 has been changed to 1-4-5-6-7-8-2-3.

MOVING: A “move” involves removing one, two or three tiles from one or more adjacent stacks, placing them on the layout at either end of the woodpile, sliding the remaining tiles from the opposite end of the woodpile to fill all gaps, and then moving the odd tiles at the end of the woodpile to fill the remaining adjacent gap. The simplest example of a move would be a player-banker taking the top tile from the stack on his far right and putting it on the layout to the immediate left of the woodpile, then sliding the top three tiles of all the remaining stacks over one stack to the left. This would leave one tile to the far right of the layout, and the stack next to it having only three tiles. The move would be completed by placing the orphaned tile on top of the short stack.

Most houses limit the number of cuts and moves a player-banker is permitted to make. A standard rule is “two moves, one cut” – that is, the player-banker can make a total of two moves and/or cuts, only one of which may be a cut, so the options are as follows:

No moves, no cuts
One move, no cuts
Two moves, no cuts
One cut, no moves
One cut, one move

In general, the player must make the moves or cuts himself. I’m not aware of houses where a dealer will move or cut the tiles at the player’s direction. This is not the case of setting the tiles up for delivery, however.

SET-UP FOR DELIVERY: If a player is banking, the player-banker has the option of designating a delivery method other than the house way. These are the named deliveries such as jung quat, chee yee, cup say, etc. Sometimes the player-banker notes the delivery he wants by setting the tiles up in a particular configuration. For example, for jung quat the two stacks of tiles in the center of the woodpile are simply advanced forward slightly. For “Hong Kong Bank,” a series of moves are resulting in a configuration that is six stacks across, with the two central stacks ten tiles high, the two stacks flanking those four tiles high, and the two outer stacks two tiles high each. Particularly with the more complicated set-ups (and deliveries), it may appear to someone unfamiliar with the game that the player-banker is rearranging the tiles at random, but he isn’t. Setting the tiles up for delivery is NOT cutting or moving the tiles, and if the player-banker makes any moves with the tiles that are not part of a recognized set-up for delivery, the dealer will usually call a misdeal and start all over again.

Finally, it is not necessary that the player-banker actually set up the tiles for delivery. Often, he will simply call out the delivery that he wants, and the dealer will take control of the woodpile and set the tiles up for delivery. It’s not uncommon for this call to made either completely or partially in Chinese. For example, you might hear a player-banker tell a non-Chinese speaking dealer, “cup say, from the bottom, from the left,” at which point the dealer will move some tiles a bit. Again, this is NOT an instruction to the dealer to move and/or cut the tiles; it is simply an instruction as to which delivery the player-banker wants, which the dealer will then set up and, after the dice have been shaken, execute. And again, it's easy to mistake this for an additional shuffle, or cut, or move, after the tiles have been shuffled, stacked, cut, and moved. It's not uncommon to see the following sequence to occur: dealer washes the tile and stacks them, pushes them over to the player-banker; player-banker makes a cut and/or move and pushes the tiles back toward to dealer; player-banker says something in Chinese to the dealer; dealer rearranges the tiles to set them up for delivery. All perfectly normal and legit, and the dealer is NOT throwing in an additional cut or move at the player's request.

LAR JAR: This I've never heard of, but it may exist in some places (or may have existed at some earlier time). My sense, based on a pretty broad sampling of casinos across the US, is that they are increasingly careful to adhere to the procedures described above. Everyone is concerned that tiles may be a beatable game, and vigilant about players messing with the tiles too much.

Quote: appistappis

where I deal there is no cutting allowed....I have seen cutting allowed if a player was banking.....never heard of anyone cutting a house banked hand....also, it is strictly forbidden for the dealer to converse in any language other than english.

And it is strictly forbidden to drive 1mph over the speed limit. Neither is enforced.

This thread makes me happy. I've enjoyed playing tiles for a few years, but haven't found any good descriptions of the cutting, moving and delivery options. I had a dealer show me a few one time, but they didn't stick. Thanks to those providing the knowledge!

I thought I was shown a delivery something like: "Man walking down stairs"?

Dragon's Tail is the best tile delivery. I had a dealer show me all of them when I was playing heads up at Caesars AC one time. That was great.

Papa Chubby,

Yep, to set it up, as the dealer:

1. take the top two tiles from the stack on the far right end and stack them up on the layout on the far left end of the woodpile
2. take the top tile from the stack that was originally on the far left end of the woodpile (now 2nd from the left), and place it on the layout to the left of the two tiles that you just moved in step #1.

At the end of these two steps, you should have a total of ten stacks, of the following height, reading from left to right: 1 tile, 2 tiles, 3 tiles, 4 tiles, 4 tiles, 4 tiles, 4 tiles, 4 tiles, 4 tiles, 2 tiles.

To deliver the tiles, start with the single tile forming the "stack" on the far left end of the woodpile. Pick it up, then pick up the top tile from the next stack to the left, the top tile from the next stack to the left of that, and the next stack to the left of that. Hand out the four tiles to the first player. The effect of this will be like "walking up stairs," as each tile you pick up will be one tile higher than the previous one you picked up. After picking up these four tiles, the woodpile will have the same configuration as before, but will be narrower by one stack. (If you want to be more like walking DOWN stairs, pick up the same four tiles, but in reverse order.)

Repeat this for each hand to be dealt out, until you have four stacks left, of the following heights: 1 tile, 2 tiles, 3 tiles, 2 tiles. Again, start with the left, pick up the single tile and then the top tile from the next three stacks, from left to right, and hand it out. As you pick up the last tile for this hand, you will be coming down one step, and the three remaining stacks will be, from left to right, 1 tile, 2 tiles, and 1 tile high. To pick up this last 4 tiles, you can either follow the same order as before (single tile on the left, top tile from middle stack, single tile on the right) and then pick up the last tile, or just pick up the single tile on the left, both tiles in the middle, and the single tile on the right.

For me, this is the most enjoyable delivery, closely followed by "evil closes the door" -- but thats another story.

Quote: SOOPOO

And it is strictly forbidden to drive 1mph over the speed limit. Neither is enforced.

you are wron g.....come to my $100 min table on a weekend when the players are up tens of thousands and you will see all the rules enforced.

@bilcgo: Thank you! Feel free to share "evil closes the door". I'm thrilled to have them all in one place!

Evil Closes the Door:

Set up: Start with the standard woodpile, 8 stacks of 4 tiles each. Simultaneously, take the two stacks on the left in your left hand, and the two stacks on the right in your right hand, and set them on top of the two center-left and two center-right stacks, respectively, creating four stacks, each eight tiles high.

Next, simultaneously take the top tile from the inside left stack in your left hand, and the top tile from the inside right stack in your right hand, and set them on the layout, next to the two outer stacks.

This completes the set-up. You should now have a total of 6 stacks, of the following heights (from left to right): 1 tile, 8 tiles, 7 tiles, 7 tiles, 8 tiles, and 1 tile.

The Delivery:

Before each hand is delivered, you have to "close the door." This is done by sliding the top tiles on the two highest stacks together (using one or two fingers on each, simultaneously), changing the configuration to 6 stacks of the following heights, from left to right: 1 tile, 7 tiles, 8 tiles, 8 tiles, 7 tiles, and 1 tile.

The tiles to be delivered on the first hand are the top tile and the tile immediately under it from each of the two middle (8 tile high) stacks. You should be able to pick these four tiles up with one hand in one motion and hand them out. After the first hand is picked and delivered, you should again have 6 stacks, but with the following heights: 1 tile, 7 tiles, 6 tiles, 6 tiles, 7 tiles, and 1 tile.

Proceed with the delivery by "closing the door" again and again picking and delivering the top two tiles from each of the two middle stacks.

Keep going until the two middle stacks are depleted. You should now have 4 tiles left on the layout, two on the left, and two on the right, with a gap between them. How you hand out these final 4 tiles is up to you: Slide them together and stack the outer tiles on the inner tiles and then hand them out; stack the outer tiles on the inner tiles first, then slide them together and hand them out, or just stack them up (preferably as two stacks of two tiles each) and hand them out.

Very nice. Thank you again!

Thanks for this list. :)

Hi bilcgo,

That's very interesting! Where can I find more of such deliveries?

Quote: appistappis

where I deal there is no cutting allowed....I have seen cutting allowed if a player was banking.....never heard of anyone cutting a house banked hand....also, it is strictly forbidden for the dealer to converse in any language other than english.

That's a joke, right? In Vegas I barely hear a word of English. It might be a 'rule', kind of like no driving over 65mph on the highway....

Quote: SOOPOO

That's a joke, right? In Vegas I barely hear a word of English. It might be a 'rule', kind of like no driving over 65mph on the highway....

I've seen signs like that at pai gow tables. You probably would not like playing pai gow at Foxwoods, as they are very strict. Each pai gow table has a sign that says "No talking while setting hands" although I've never actually seen it enforced. They only offer four delivery methods: the house way, cup say, jung quat, and the Chinese dragon. You can do any of them left-to-right or right-to-left (or head-to-tail / tail-to-head for the Chinese dragon). But you must tell the dealer how you want the tiles delivered because they won't let you touch the stack, and rearranging the tiles before selecting the delivery method is therefore out of the question.

In Atlantic City you have the following options:

1. House way right or left
2. cup say right or left
3. jung quat
4. chee yee
5. pin say right or left
6. dragon tail/phoenix head right or left

You also can tell the dealer to make cuts for you when it's your turn to bank, but you are not allowed to touch the tiles yourself before they are dealt.


There are also signs that say no discussion among players while setting hands, but that is never, ever enforced. And there are no signs about english only -- in fact, most of the conversation in the game, dealer included, is in chinese.

In both Tunica and Biloxi, I have often seen signs on the tables that say something like, "only English may be spoken at the table while tiles/cards are in play". Never seen it anywhere else.

Quote: Aussie

Those are the normal cuts and are usually determined at random. What was mentioned a the start of the thread is an extra shuffle done after all of that has been completed. As I said it is called a "lar jar".

A La Ja is requested by or given permission by the largest wager on the table.
The players can ask for one per shuffle and usually ask for one when they’re on a losing streak.
It involves the dealer taking roughly six tiles from the centre of the stack and placing them either on the left or the right of the pile. The player who requests a la ja chooses which side to place them on. Then the remaining tiles are slid across and reformed back in 8 stacks of 4 high.

I've been dealing Pai Gow for over four years, I can give a detailed analysis about all twenty cuts if anyone is interested.

There are 20 different shuffles/cuts for Pai Gow. Some casinos have an extra dice for when the house is banking, usually a different colour and the result of that die will determine which of the six predetermined cuts will be dealt.

I've dealt tiles for 20 years..thought I knew all the different shuffles....then a guy who worked in australia shows me a whole bunch more.

Quote: Samork

I've been dealing Pai Gow for over four years, I can give a detailed analysis about all twenty cuts if anyone is interested.

I'd like to read your details. I find any new information on PG tiles pretty interesting.

Quote: Samork

I've been dealing Pai Gow for over four years, I can give a detailed analysis about all twenty cuts if anyone is interested.

This is what Im wanting to find- an analysis of all the cuts available even if not usually allowed at the table. :)

PAI GOW CUTS
The following cuts are the only cuts that the Dealer may use. For ease of description all references to the stacks will be in alphabetical order when they are in eight stacks of four. The extreme right hand stack will be stack A, second from the right will be stack B, and so on with the extreme left hand stack being stack H.
From the dealers view, the stacks will look like HGFEDCBA.

LA JA
The La Ja may only be performed after the Dealer has placed the tiles in eight stacks of four and only one La Ja is performed per shuffle.
The Dealer will perform a La Ja by taking approximately six tiles from the middle of the stacks and placing those tiles at the end of the stacks requested by the player. Then the remaining tiles are slid across and reformed into eight stacks of four.


1. YAT DONG DONG - HOUSE WAY - ONE STACK

1.1 Stack A is pushed forward approximately half a tile length and stack H is split into two and pushed backward half a tile length. The dice will now be shaken.

1.2 The first four tiles delivered will be stack A. The next four tiles delivered will be stack B and so on.

1.3 This cut may be delivered from the left (Jor) first, in which case the formation is reversed with stack H pushed forward and stack A split and pushed backwards approximately half a tile length. The dice will now be shaken.

1.4 The first four tiles delivered will be stack H and then in order from left to right (H to A).


2. CUP SAY - TIGER

2.1 Stacks A to D are pushed forward approximately half a tile length, stacks A and B are pushed forward a approximately half a tile length and stacks G and H are pushed back approximately half a tile length. The dice will now be shaken.

2.2 The first four tiles delivered will be the top two tiles from the front two stacks. The next four tiles delivered will be the bottom two tiles from the front stacks and so on.

2.3 This cut may be delivered from the bottom first (Die Chut) which is indicated by moving the top two tiles of the front stacks backwards quarter of a tile length.

2.4 The first four tiles delivered are the bottom two tiles from the front stacks and then the top two tiles of the front stacks and so on.

2.5 This cut may be delivered from the left (Jor), in which case the formation is reversed with the stacks staggered from left to right and the first four tiles delivered will be the top two tiles from the front two stacks.


3. FOOT SAY - FOUR ACROSS

3.1 Stacks A, B, G and H are moved back and together to a position directly behind the remaining four stacks. The top tile from stack C is placed diagonally across stacks D, E and F and the top tile of stack A is placed diagonally across stacks H, G and B. The dice will now be shaken.

3.2 The first four tiles delivered will be the top tile from the front group of stacks (C, D, E and F), followed by the next four across. When all tiles from the front group are delivered the back group of stacks (A, B, G and H) will be delivered in the same manner.

3.3 This cut may be delivered from the bottom first (Die Chut) in which case stacks A, B, G and H are moved forward and together to a position directly in front of the remaining four stacks.

3.4 The first four tiles delivered will be the top tile from the front group of stacks (A, B, G and H), followed by the next four across. When all tiles from the front group are delivered the back group of stacks (C, D, E and F) will be delivered in the same manner.


4. CHEE YEE - CHOP THE EARS

4.1 Stacks D and E will be moved back approximately half a tile length then stacks B and G are moved forward approximately half a tile length and stacks A and H are moved forward approximately one tile length. The dice will now be shaken.

4.2 Bring stacks A and H together in front of stacks D and E. The first four tiles delivered will be the top two tiles of stacks A and H and then the bottom two tiles of stacks A and H. Stacks B and G are then brought together in front of the cut and are delivered in the same manner. The remaining stacks are moved forward and together, in turn, working from the outside and delivered in the same way.

4.3 This cut may be delivered from the bottom fist (Die Chut) which is indicated by moving the top two tiles of stacks A and H backwards a quarter of a tile length.

4.4 The first four tiles delivered are the bottom two tiles from stacks A and H and then the top two tiles of stacks A and H and so on.


5. LONG TAU FUNG MAY - DRAGON HEAD PHOENIX TAIL

5.1 Stacks A and B are placed on top of stacks C and D. A gap of approximately one tile width is made between stacks D and E. The two stacks of 8 form the "DRAGON HEAD" and the four stacks of 4 form the "PHOENIX TAIL". The dice will now be shaken.

5.2 The first four tiles delivered will be the top four tiles from the “Dragon Head”. The next tiles delivered will be the top tile from each stack in the “Phoenix Tail”. The delivery will then alternate between the head and tail in the same manner.

5.3 This cut may be delivered from the tail first, which is indicated by placing the top tile of stack H diagonally across the top of stacks E, F and G.

5.4 The first four tiles delivered will be the top four tiles of the tail. The next four tiles to be delivered will be the top four tiles from the head. The delivery will then alternate between the top four tiles of the tail and the head.

5.5 This cut may be delivered from the left (Jor) first, in which case the formation is reversed and stacks G and H are placed on top of stacks E and F. The head is now on the left and the tail on the right.

5.6 The first four tiles delivered will be the top four tiles of the head. The next four tiles to be delivered will be the top four tiles from the tail. The delivery will then alternate between the top four tiles of the head and the tail.


6. DIE PIN - BIG SLICE

6.1 The top tile of stack A is placed diagonally across the stacks B and C. The dice will now be shaken.

6.2 The first four tiles delivered will be the tile from stack A that was placed diagonally across the stacks B and C and the top tile from stacks B, C and D. The next tiles delivered will be the top tile from stacks E, F, G and H. The delivery will then alternate between the top tile of stacks A, B, C and D and the top tile of stacks E, F, G, and H.
6.3 This cut may be delivered from the left (Jor) first, in which case the top tile of stack H is placed diagonally across the stacks G and F.

6.4 The first four tiles delivered will be the top tile from stacks E, F, G and H followed by the top tile from stacks A, B, C and D.


7. PONG YUN - BUDDHA'S SIGNAL

7.1 The top two tiles of stack A are placed on top halfway between stacks G and H. The dice will now be shaken.

7.2 The first four tiles delivered will be the two tiles on top of stacks G and H and the top tile from stacks G and H. The next tiles delivered are the bottom two from stack A and the top tile from stacks G and H. The delivery will continue with the top two tiles from stack B and the top tile from stacks G and H and so on.

7.3 This cut may be delivered from the left (Jor) first, in which case the top two tiles of stack H are placed on top halfway between stacks A and B.

7.4 The first four tiles delivered will be the two tiles on top of stacks A and B and the top tile from stacks A and B. The next tiles delivered are the bottom two from stack H and the top tile from stacks A and B and so on.


8. HONG KONG BANK

8.1 Stack A is placed on top of stack D and stack H is placed on top of stack E, then stack B and H are placed on top of the two stacks of 8. This forms two stacks of 12 in the middle and two stacks of 4 on each side. The top two tiles from the two stacks of 12 are moved down next to the stacks of 4 on either side. The two stacks of 2 and 4 are moved back and together directly behind the stacks of 10. The two stacks of 2 are moved back directly behind the stacks of 4. The dice will now be shaken.

8.2 The first four tiles delivered will be the top two tiles of the two stacks of 10, then the next four and so on until the front stacks have been completely delivered. Then the tiles from the back stacks are delivered in the same way, starting with the stacks of 4.


9. CHINA BANK

9.1 Stack A is placed on top of stack D and stack H is placed on top of stack E, then stack B and G are placed on top of the two stacks of 8. This forms two stacks of 12 in the middle and two stacks of 4 on each side. The two stacks of 4 are moved back and together directly behind the stacks of 12. The dice will now be shaken.

9.2 The first four tiles delivered will be the top two tiles of the two stacks of 12, then the next four and so on until the front stacks have been completely delivered. Then the tiles from the two stacks of 4 are delivered in the same way.


10. JUNG QUAT - TAKE THE HEART

10.1 The middle two stacks D and E will be moved forward approximately half a tile length. The dice will now be shaken.

10.2 Stacks C and F are placed behind stacks D and E, stacks B and G behind stacks C and F and stacks A and H behind stacks B and G nearest to the float tray.

10.3 The first four tiles delivered will be the top two tiles of the front two stacks. The bottom of those two stacks are delivered next, then the top two tiles of the following two stacks and so on.

10.4 This cut may be delivered from the bottom first (Die Chut) which is indicated by moving the top two tiles of the front stacks backwards a quarter of a tile length.

10.5 The first four tiles delivered will be the bottom two tiles of the front two stacks. The top of those two stacks are delivered next, then the bottom two tiles of the following two stacks and so on.


11. PARLIAMENT HOUSE - HARBOUR BRIDGE

11.1 The top two tiles of stack H are placed next to stack A and then the top tile of stack A and G are placed next to the two stacks of tiles at each end. The middle stack is placed horizontally bridging the gap between stacks C and E. The dice will now be shaken.

11.2 The first four tiles delivered will be the four tiles that are bridging stacks C and E, and then all the remaining tiles are pushed together. The next tiles delivered are the top two tiles from the middle two stacks and then the bottom two tiles from the same stacks. The remaining tiles are pushed together and the next tiles delivered are the top two tiles from the middle two stacks and so on until four single tiles remain to be delivered last.


12. SEUNG GWAI PAK MOON - GHOST CLOSING THE DOOR

12.1 Stacks A and B are placed on top of stacks C and D and stacks G and H on top of stacks E and F. Then the top two middle tiles are moved down next to the outside stacks. The dice will now be shaken.

12.2 The highest two tiles of the stacks are moved to the middle and the first four tiles delivered will be the top four tiles of the middle stacks. The remaining tiles are delivered using the same process until four single tiles remain to be delivered last.


13. BO BO GO SING - BOY WALKS UP STAIRS

13.1 The top two tiles of stack H are placed next to stack A and the top tile of stack A is placed next to the two tiles moved from stack H. The dice will now be shaken.

13.2 The first four tiles delivered will be the top tiles from the four stacks on the right in a stepping motion. This process is repeated from right to left starting with the single tile and picking one tile from each of the next three stacks.

13.3 This cut may be delivered from the left (Jor) first, in which case the top two tiles of stack A are placed next to stack H and the top tile of stack H is placed next to the two tiles moved from stack A.

13.4 The first four tiles delivered will be the top tiles from the four stacks on the left in a stepping motion. This process is repeated from left to right starting with the single tile and picking one tile from each of the next three stacks.


14. GUM UN QUE - DOUBLE BRIDGE

14.1 Stacks A and B and stacks G and H are moved back and together to a position directly behind stacks C, D, E and F. The top two tiles of stack F are placed next to stack C, then the top tile from stack C is placed next to the top two tiles moved from stack F and the top tile from stack E is placed next to stack F. The middle stack is placed in two stacks of two horizontally bridging the gap between stacks C and F. Stacks A, B, G and H are formed in the same way. The dice will now be shaken.

14.2 The first four tiles delivered will be the bridge on the front stacks. The front stacks are then pushed together and the top two tiles from the middle two stacks are delivered. The two tiles forming a step are pushed together and the two tiles of the middle two stacks are delivered. This leaves four tiles to be delivered. Then the back bridge is delivered in the same way.


15. GHAN DONG PING SAY - KANGAROO JUMP

15.1 Stacks A, C, E and G are pushed forward approximately half a tile length. The dice will now be shaken.

15.2 The first four tiles delivered will be the top tiles from stacks A, C, E and F. The second four tiles delivered are the top tiles from stacks B, D, F and H. The delivery will now alternate from the front stacks to the back stacks.

15.3 This cut may be delivered from the left (Jor) first, in which case stacks B, D, F and H are pushed forward approximately half a tile length.

15.4 The first four tiles delivered will be the top tiles from stacks B, D, F and H. The second four tiles delivered are the top tiles from stacks A, C, E and F and so on.


16. CHONG WAN SUP LOK - SIXTEEN ACROSS

16.1 The top two tiles from every stack are moved forward. The middle two stacks of both formations are pushed forward approximately half a tile length. The dice will now be shaken.

16.2 The tiles from the front group of stacks are delivered first. The first four tiles delivered will be the two tiles from the middle two stacks that are pushed forward. The remaining tiles in the front group will be pushed together and the next four tiles delivered will be the two tiles from the middle two stacks and so on. The tiles from the back group of stacks are delivered in the same way.

16.3 This cut may be delivered from the bottom (Die Chut) in which case the top two tiles from every stack are moved back behind the bottom tiles. The tiles are delivered in the same way.


17. YAT KAI SUM MAY - CHICKEN THREE WAYS

17.1 Stack A is moved forward to a position approximately four tile lengths in front and to the centre of the main group of stacks. Then the middle stack is moved to a position directly behind stack A. The remaining stacks are pushed together and the middle two stacks are placed directly behind the two single stacks. The remaining stacks are pushed together. The front stack may be moved to a diagonal position (breaking the neck). The dice will now be shaken.

17.2 The first four tiles delivered will be the front stack and then the tiles from the next single stack. The next four tiles delivered will be the top two tiles of the next two stacks followed by the bottom two tiles. The remaining tiles are delivered by taking one tile from the top of each stack as in Foot Say.


18. GHAN DONG CUP SAY - STRIPED TIGER

18.1 Stack A and C are moved forward and together, stacks B and E are moved forward and placed next to and left of the front stacks half a tile length back, stack D and G are moved forward and placed next to and left of the previous two stacks half a tile length back. Stacks F and H are moved the same as the previous tiles. The groups of stacks are positioned as with Cup Say, staggered from right to left. The dice will now be shaken.

18.2 The first four tiles delivered will be the top two tiles from the front two stacks. The next four tiles delivered will be the bottom two tiles from front stacks and so on.

18.3 This cut may be delivered from the bottom (Die Chut), which is indicated by moving the top two tiles of the front stacks backwards quarter of a tile length.
18.4 The first four tiles delivered will be the bottom two tiles from the front stacks. The next four tiles delivered will be the top two tiles from the front stacks and so on.

18.5 This cut may be delivered from the left (Jor), in which case the stacks are positioned and staggered from left to right with stacks F and H together, stacks D and G together, stacks B and E together and stacks A and C together. The first four tiles delivered will be the top two tiles from the front stacks. This cut may also be delivered from the bottom first (Die Chut)


19. TOWER

19.1 Stack A is placed on top of stack D, stack H is placed on top of stack E, then working from the outside in as before, continue until you have 2 stacks of sixteen. The tiles are now ready for delivery.

19.2 The first four tiles delivered will be the top two tiles of each stack then the next two of each stack and so on, working down from the top to the bottom.


20. ARN LOK PENG SAR - FLYING DRAGON

20.1 Stacks A and B are placed on top of stacks C and D. A gap of approximately one tile width is now made between the head and the tail. The two stacks of 8 become the "Dragon Head" and the four stacks of 4 become the "Phoenix Tail".

20.2 The top two tiles of stacks E, F, G and H are placed next to stack H forming eight stacks of two tiles in the tail. The last two tiles and each alternate pair of the tail are pushed forward approximately half a tile length. The dice will now be shaken.

20.3 The first four tiles delivered will be the top two tiles from the head. The next tiles delivered will be the top tile from the stacks of two that have been pushed forward, then the top two tiles from the head followed by be the raised top tiles from the tail and so on.

20.4 This cut may be delivered from the tail first, in which case the top tile of the stack furthest from the head is placed diagonally across the next two stacks before the tiles are ready for delivery.

20.5 This cut may be made from the left (Jor), in which case, the tail is made on the right and the head on the left in a similar manner.

Thanks. I'd like to make a video of the various cuts sometime, but I don't know many myself.

Also, where is "one man two women"?

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Thanks. I'd like to make a video of the various cuts sometime, but I don't know many myself.

Also, where is "one man two women"?

Unfamiliar with One Man Two Woman, also on the New Zealand Gaming Commission site they mention Girl on the Right and Left which I cannot seem to find any information on.

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Unfamiliar with One Man Two Woman, also on the New Zealand Gaming Commission site they mention Girl on the Right and Left which I cannot seem to find any information on.

That seems to be one of the few cuts pale-faced tile players like me ask for here in Vegas. The dealers know how to do it, although I think it is usually white players who ask for it.

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That seems to be one of the few cuts pale-faced tile players like me ask for here in Vegas. The dealers know how to do it, although I think it is usually white players who ask for it.

Could you explain how the dealer does it?

I believe "One Man Two Women" and "Girl on Right and Left" are the same delivery.

Take one stack from the end and place it on top of the middle stack. Doesn't matter which end you take it from. This will give you three stacks of four on either side of a stack of eight (a sort of phallic reference, I believe). Sometimes the 3 stacks on either side are slightly separated from the center stack, some dealers don't. Dice are then rolled.

For the delivery. Take one tile from the top of the center stack and one tile off each of the 3 stacks on one side. Then same thing for the other side (one from the tall stack in the middle and one off the top of each of the 3 on that side). Banker may designate which side goes first. Continue until the last 4 tiles remain, which are going to be in the middle and are delivered to the last position.

I hope I explained this in an understandable way.... I believe it is accurate. Hope it helps!

Thanks mate, exactly what I was looking for.

That's so detailed and interesting! Thanks.

Several years have passed, but these things are still interesting!