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CyrusV
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August 20th, 2015 at 10:34:50 PM permalink
Quote: ShineyShine



CyrusV; Not really sure what you mean, the chips have nothing to do with this.


Yes they do. If you bet small they aren't going to bother, if you're spreading black on the felt, they can and will take you down.

All decent sized casinos will have the resident "house burner" on standby just in case. As for the family and friends remarks, nope that doesn't wash, they are risking their job / license if it becomes know, that's a step too far, they wouldn't risk their livelihood, same reason they have to declare and usually turn down all social invitations with punters.

Fair bit of naivety, start winning a decent amount consistently in a medium sized casino and see what happens.
CyrusV
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August 20th, 2015 at 10:39:04 PM permalink
Quote: RS



I don't think a dealer can hit a specific number guaranteed or be very likely to hit it. But all you need is a section of probably 5-6 numbers and be able to hit that section rather frequently.


On the older high scallop wheels the more experienced croupiers can do it.
ShineyShine
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August 20th, 2015 at 10:52:29 PM permalink
Quote: CyrusV

Yes they do. If you bet small they aren't going to bother, if you're spreading black on the felt, they can and will take you down.

All decent sized casinos will have the resident "house burner" on standby just in case.



So you really think the casinos have specially trained dealers, or a "house burner" as you put it, that can hit certain sections of the wheel just to "take you down"?

The only way this would happen i reckon is a bent casino, and bent wheel. Nothing to do with the question i'm asking.
waasnoday
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August 21st, 2015 at 11:45:39 AM permalink
Working on the Table Games audit and just checked the employee list and no "house burner" is present. Maybe many years ago something like this could happen with the older wheels but I think even then it was actually a gaffed wheel that performed the cheat and not the dealer. Of course I work for a medium to small casino so maybe a larger store would but really don't think so. I am more worried about the Caro roulette system.
AlanMendelson
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August 21st, 2015 at 1:14:36 PM permalink
Quote: ShineyShine

So you really think the casinos have specially trained dealers, or a "house burner" as you put it, that can hit certain sections of the wheel just to "take you down"?

The only way this would happen i reckon is a bent casino, and bent wheel. Nothing to do with the question i'm asking.



Silly. The casinos don't train the dealers to target certain sections of the wheel. The dealers develop this skill on their own.
DoubleOrNothing
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August 21st, 2015 at 1:22:27 PM permalink
Quote: AlanMendelson

The dealers develop this skill on their own.

And the manufacturers of the games are going to invest millions of dollars on research, design, production and sales, only to watch a competitor move in and do it properly the first time around. On the other hand, I guess having gone out with a dealer proves otherwise.

Keep dreaming, it's "the gift which just keeps giving".
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DoubleOrNothing
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August 21st, 2015 at 1:34:59 PM permalink
Quote: AlanMendelson

Silly.


Like that Wikipedia article link posted by MathExtremist a while back. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eudaemons

Yeah, sure, they shut their charitable organization down right away after years of preparation and only $10,000 in winnings - so they claim - because someone wouldn't stop burning themselves on the chest with the sensor.

Just a bit shy of the laughter of reading ME's "resume" in Axel's Employment thread.
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AlanMendelson
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August 21st, 2015 at 1:52:12 PM permalink
In case you missed my first post in this thread I was at a demonstration at a major casino where it was done.

Don't be so naive.
Dicenor33
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August 21st, 2015 at 2:20:16 PM permalink
The only people who win at roulette are the people who place their bets after the ball has been rolled. Play sectors and you'll be wiped out in no time.
DoubleOrNothing
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August 21st, 2015 at 5:09:05 PM permalink
Quote: AlanMendelson

In case you missed my first post in this thread I was at a demonstration at a major casino where it was done.

Don't be so naive.


What proof have you offered? None.

What analysis have you offered? None.

What logical reasoning for this have you offered? None.

Can you do it? No.

How often was it done? Who knows.

Don't you be so naive.
I can't believe what I believe.

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