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7winner
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July 18th, 2010 at 10:29:45 PM permalink
These 2 sucker bets arrived on the craps layout in the early 1900s.

Craps back then was a game of points.
No place bets, put bets were not yet allowed.
Bettors wanted a way to bet the 6 and 8 without going thru the come line.
They are an all day wager with a house edge of 9.09%.

Remember back then NO place or put bets.
Bet the Don't Pass? No Bar 12. The don't Pass WON on a 12. It cost you a 5% vig to bet the don't pass.

This just shows how the bets have evolved for the game of craps.

Now in the 21st century we have place bets on the 6&8. pays 7:6 or every $6 pays $7.
There are still $1 and $2 craps tables where you MUST place the 6 or 8 for a minimum of $3.

So the question is: Would you make a $2 Big 6 or Big 8 bet if you only have $2?
I'm an old timer, as was my instructor, and I have seen many players make great money on the Big 6&8. Of course the quarter and $1 games forced many low bankroll players to make the bet if they wanted the 6 or the 8.
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RaleighCraps
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July 19th, 2010 at 8:13:43 AM permalink
I had $400 in free play to use on my last trip. It could only be used on even money bets (PL/DP). However, the box allowed me to use it on the Big 6/8 as well. I was given 2 $100 chips and 8 $25 chips.
I used the first $200 (100 + 4x25) on the PL, winning one $25 bet. :-(
I used the rest on the Big 6/8 , again winning one $25 bet. :-C

Man, I HATE CRAPS these days
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waltomeal
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July 19th, 2010 at 9:54:58 AM permalink
I would not make a big 6 or big 8 bet. But neither would I laugh at one who did.
Thanks for the history lesson - very interesting. Every now and then I see an image of an old craps layout, and it's often striking how much they have changed.
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Nareed
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July 19th, 2010 at 10:01:01 AM permalink
A craps "instructor" at Montecarlo, who was big on pushing the sucker bets, did admit, quite readily, the Big 6/8 is a sucker bet not worth making. He said he'd heard players say they make it because that way they can better keep track of their chips.
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konceptum
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July 19th, 2010 at 11:00:45 AM permalink
My answer would be that it depends on certain factors. At $3 minimum tables, I've seen players make a $3 bet on the Big 6, and then when it hits, take the winnings and the original bet and have the dealer place the 6 for $6, in order to get the extra dollar the next time the 6 rolls. I think this is a good idea. However, I've seen people bet $3 on the Big 6, and then let their winnings ride, thus only getting $6 the next time the 6 is rolled. This doesn't make sense to me.

At the El Cortez, where a $3 place bet pays $3.50, then it would definitely make more sense to place the 6 rather than bet the Big 6.

Further, since the Big 6 and Big 8 bets are active all the time, and the place bets are normally NOT active when a person is making a come out roll, then if the better is able to remember this and pick up their Big 6 and Big 8 bets on a come out roll, they are probably ok. But I've seen many times where they are not aware of this, and those bets get swept up on a 7, in which case, betting this way is a bad idea.
Ayecarumba
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July 19th, 2010 at 12:35:40 PM permalink
Quote: 7winner


So the question is: Would you make a $2 Big 6 or Big 8 bet if you only have $2?



If I'm down to $2, I'd head for nickle VP. Big6/8 should never be seen as a live option when much better bets can (still) be had. Unfortunately, you have to do the "walk of shame" away from the lively action at the craps tables.
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