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July 6th, 2023 at 8:40:29 PM permalink
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I find some numbers repeat one after the other (25, 25), so maybe there is some betting system that can semi-press on a won number by betting the same straight-up number. Once you figure out the repeaters, just stay on them.
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Lots of people do that, it even gives you that information on some electronic roulette boards. People who do it are usually broke that's why they give you the information.
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The electronic reader boards created a gold mine for us. They created a resurgence in professional bias play when they came out. They enabled trackers to discretely track every wheel within the casinos, rather than just a one or two at a time. They also provided cover, because they could be viewed from a distance.
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July 6th, 2023 at 9:49:42 PM permalink
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I find some numbers repeat one after the other (25, 25), so maybe there is some betting system that can semi-press on a won number by betting the same straight-up number. Once you figure out the repeaters, just stay on them.
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Lots of people do that, it even gives you that information on some electronic roulette boards. People who do it are usually broke that's why they give you the information.
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The electronic reader boards created a gold mine for us. They created a resurgence in professional bias play when they came out. They enabled trackers to discretely track every wheel within the casinos, rather than just a one or two at a time. They also provided cover, because they could be viewed from a distance.
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Keyser wrote a book on roulette years ago and it is worth quite a bit of money if you can find it. I had a copy of it probably 10 or 12 years ago but I sold it and I wish I hadn't. He knows who I am from other forums that I've been on, I've been doing this since 2006. It's odd that I constantly get accused of being a fraud here yet I know so much about roulette and I even know the people who've been involved in roulette for years. If I didn't actually play this game none of that would be true. On the old Gamblers Glen forum I had over 20,000 posts about roulette and that was before 2010. If I don't know what I'm doing I certainly have a lot of time to waste talking about nothing.
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July 7th, 2023 at 6:55:43 AM permalink
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I believe this is known as "la Partage", in case people are searching later.
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Yes and it's available almost nowhere in the United States. Very very few casinos in Vegas and I've never seen or heard of an Indian casino that had it. If you ask them they don't even know what it is and they look at you like you're insane.
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Single zero wheels are not hard to find in Vegas at all. They're in literally almost every casino that has a high limit room. And I know at least Bellagio and MGM Grand even have one on the main floor.
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July 7th, 2023 at 7:29:27 AM permalink
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I believe this is known as "la Partage", in case people are searching later.
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Yes and it's available almost nowhere in the United States. Very very few casinos in Vegas and I've never seen or heard of an Indian casino that had it. If you ask them they don't even know what it is and they look at you like you're insane.
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Single zero wheels are not hard to find in Vegas at all. They're in literally almost every casino that has a high limit room. And I know at least Bellagio and MGM Grand even have one on the main floor.
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But do they have the half back on zero rule. I haven't looked in Vegas in probably 10 years but they didn't have it then. I've never seen it in the United States. Also the minimum bet on single zero wheels in Vegas is usually quite high which is not what I prefer. It doesn't matter I'll never go into another brick and mortar casino again in my life why would I.
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July 7th, 2023 at 10:23:07 AM permalink
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I believe this is known as "la Partage", in case people are searching later.
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Yes and it's available almost nowhere in the United States. Very very few casinos in Vegas and I've never seen or heard of an Indian casino that had it. If you ask them they don't even know what it is and they look at you like you're insane.
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Single zero wheels are not hard to find in Vegas at all. They're in literally almost every casino that has a high limit room. And I know at least Bellagio and MGM Grand even have one on the main floor.
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But do they have the half back on zero rule. I haven't looked in Vegas in probably 10 years but they didn't have it then. I've never seen it in the United States. Also the minimum bet on single zero wheels in Vegas is usually quite high which is not what I prefer. It doesn't matter I'll never go into another brick and mortar casino again in my life why would I.
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I agree you shouldn't go. You would only lose money with your failed Roulette and Baccarat system.
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July 7th, 2023 at 10:29:15 AM permalink
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I believe this is known as "la Partage", in case people are searching later.
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Yes and it's available almost nowhere in the United States. Very very few casinos in Vegas and I've never seen or heard of an Indian casino that had it. If you ask them they don't even know what it is and they look at you like you're insane.
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Single zero wheels are not hard to find in Vegas at all. They're in literally almost every casino that has a high limit room. And I know at least Bellagio and MGM Grand even have one on the main floor.
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But do they have the half back on zero rule. I haven't looked in Vegas in probably 10 years but they didn't have it then. I've never seen it in the United States. Also the minimum bet on single zero wheels in Vegas is usually quite high which is not what I prefer. It doesn't matter I'll never go into another brick and mortar casino again in my life why would I.
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I agree you shouldn't go. You would only lose money with your failed Roulette and Baccarat system.
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I wouldn't lose but I certainly would not win as much as I do online because at the brick and mortar casino I have very little choices. Online I can play five roulette wheels at the same time, if I go into a brick and mortar and they've got one wheel and it's not playing my game I'm screwed.
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July 8th, 2023 at 11:08:54 AM permalink
As a tool AI is helping me somewhat but I'm just at the very start of it. I'm kind of looking for a large overall pattern in roulette that I'm missing that would make playing easier. Kind of like Einstein looked for the unified theory for a large part of his life, a theory that would tie everything together. I like to think there's a pattern that I haven't detected yet going on in a roulette that will allow me to play almost every time I see outcomes from a real wheel. Probably doesn't exist, but I'll never know unless I try.
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July 8th, 2023 at 12:54:51 PM permalink
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As a tool AI is helping me somewhat but I'm just at the very start of it. I'm kind of looking for a large overall pattern in roulette that I'm missing that would make playing easier. Kind of like Einstein looked for the unified theory for a large part of his life, a theory that would tie everything together. I like to think there's a pattern that I haven't detected yet going on in a roulette that will allow me to play almost every time I see outcomes from a real wheel. Probably doesn't exist, but I'll never know unless I try.
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While you are at it you might as well get started on your perpetual motion machine. AI can help there too.
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July 8th, 2023 at 12:59:57 PM permalink
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As a tool AI is helping me somewhat but I'm just at the very start of it. I'm kind of looking for a large overall pattern in roulette that I'm missing that would make playing easier. Kind of like Einstein looked for the unified theory for a large part of his life, a theory that would tie everything together. I like to think there's a pattern that I haven't detected yet going on in a roulette that will allow me to play almost every time I see outcomes from a real wheel. Probably doesn't exist, but I'll never know unless I try.
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While you are at it you might as well get started on your perpetual motion machine. AI can help there too.
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A roulette wheel almost has Perpetual emotional already, that thing will spin and spin and spin on just one push. Years ago I had a casino sized roulette wheel and I forget what the record was on one spin but it was a long time.
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July 8th, 2023 at 1:16:38 PM permalink
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As a tool AI is helping me somewhat but I'm just at the very start of it. I'm kind of looking for a large overall pattern in roulette that I'm missing that would make playing easier. Kind of like Einstein looked for the unified theory for a large part of his life, a theory that would tie everything together. I like to think there's a pattern that I haven't detected yet going on in a roulette that will allow me to play almost every time I see outcomes from a real wheel. Probably doesn't exist, but I'll never know unless I try.
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While you are at it you might as well get started on your perpetual motion machine. AI can help there too.
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A roulette wheel almost has Perpetual emotional already, that thing will spin and spin and spin on just one push. Years ago I had a casino sized roulette wheel and I forget what the record was on one spin but it was a long time.
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Awesome. I'm glad you recognize the perpetual motion promise the roulette wheel offers. It really does go around and around for a long time with just one push from human energy.

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July 8th, 2023 at 5:58:26 PM permalink
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As a tool AI is helping me somewhat but I'm just at the very start of it. I'm kind of looking for a large overall pattern in roulette that I'm missing that would make playing easier. Kind of like Einstein looked for the unified theory for a large part of his life, a theory that would tie everything together. I like to think there's a pattern that I haven't detected yet going on in a roulette that will allow me to play almost every time I see outcomes from a real wheel. Probably doesn't exist, but I'll never know unless I try.
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While you are at it you might as well get started on your perpetual motion machine. AI can help there too.
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A roulette wheel almost has Perpetual emotional already, that thing will spin and spin and spin on just one push. Years ago I had a casino sized roulette wheel and I forget what the record was on one spin but it was a long time.
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Awesome. I'm glad you recognize the perpetual motion promise the roulette wheel offers. It really does go around and around for a long time with just one push from human energy.

(Snicker snicker)
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Every minute of every day wheels are spinning around the world sounds like perpetual motion to me..
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July 8th, 2023 at 6:15:29 PM permalink
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As a tool AI is helping me somewhat but I'm just at the very start of it. I'm kind of looking for a large overall pattern in roulette that I'm missing that would make playing easier. Kind of like Einstein looked for the unified theory for a large part of his life, a theory that would tie everything together. I like to think there's a pattern that I haven't detected yet going on in a roulette that will allow me to play almost every time I see outcomes from a real wheel. Probably doesn't exist, but I'll never know unless I try.
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While you are at it you might as well get started on your perpetual motion machine. AI can help there too.
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A roulette wheel almost has Perpetual emotional already, that thing will spin and spin and spin on just one push. Years ago I had a casino sized roulette wheel and I forget what the record was on one spin but it was a long time.
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Awesome. I'm glad you recognize the perpetual motion promise the roulette wheel offers. It really does go around and around for a long time with just one push from human energy.

(Snicker snicker)
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Every minute of every day wheels are spinning around the world sounds like perpetual motion to me..
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I suppose I can understand why you would have no understanding of what the definition of perpetual motion is. It's in line with your understanding of randomness that is not random.
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July 8th, 2023 at 8:17:42 PM permalink
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I suppose I can understand why you would have no understanding of what the definition of perpetual motion is. It's in line with your understanding of randomness that is not random.
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When I was in college I wrote a paper on perpetual motion so I know exactly what it is. I know about the historic quest for it and why it doesn't work and the implications if it did work. I'm joking around, which I keep forgetting is above the heads of some luminaries here.
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July 8th, 2023 at 8:30:36 PM permalink
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I suppose I can understand why you would have no understanding of what the definition of perpetual motion is. It's in line with your understanding of randomness that is not random.
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When I was in college I wrote a paper on perpetual motion so I know exactly what it is. I know about the historic quest for it and why it doesn't work and the implications if it did work. I'm joking around, which I keep forgetting is above the heads of some luminaries here.
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Phew, I am glad to learn all this beating Roulette stuff has just been joking around. You were giving people the impression of being someone who didn't understand what they were talking about.
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July 9th, 2023 at 4:34:02 AM permalink
If I found a roulette wheel with a 1.35% HA and 200X table limits (ie $15-$3000), I could beat it. But my local wheel is a double zero and the limits are $25-$100, or $3-$400 on the machine. When my suggested minimum session is betting for 400+ spins on red or black, it's going to take a long time, but not as long as just betting the PL or DP in craps.
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July 11th, 2023 at 6:30:02 PM permalink
I'm having some luck playing around with one of these offbeat roulette games that has a 29/1 payout on the inside numbers but occasionally an inside number is mysteriously jacked up to a bonus payout of 50 or 100 or even 300 times what you bet. It's all computer-generated of course but if I think the next number is going to be black because I'm playing the patterns and I bet all the black numbers if I win I'll get a big payout if that number hits the mysterious jackpot. The problem is getting all 11 numbers covered in the short amount of time they give you to make bets. So far I've hit three times but I'm only betting the minimum amount it is kind of fun but it's a lot of work.
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July 12th, 2023 at 1:59:33 AM permalink
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I'm having some luck playing around with one of these offbeat roulette games that has a 29/1 payout on the inside numbers but occasionally an inside number is mysteriously jacked up to a bonus payout of 50 or 100 or even 300 times what you bet. It's all computer-generated of course but if I think the next number is going to be black because I'm playing the patterns and I bet all the black numbers if I win I'll get a big payout if that number hits the mysterious jackpot. The problem is getting all 11 numbers covered in the short amount of time they give you to make bets. So far I've hit three times but I'm only betting the minimum amount it is kind of fun but it's a lot of work.
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Yes, LUCK.

Glad you are finally admitting whenever you happen to win it's nothing but LUCK.

But who knows, in this particular situation there might actually be a legitimate advantage if you factor in the mysterious jackpot thing.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
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July 12th, 2023 at 4:55:46 AM permalink
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On the old Gamblers Glen forum I had over 20,000 posts about roulette and that was before 2010. If I don't know what I'm doing I certainly have a lot of time to waste talking about nothing.
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You had. You don't. You do.
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July 12th, 2023 at 8:04:37 AM permalink
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es, LUCK.

Glad you are finally admitting whenever you happen to win it's nothing but LUCK.

But who knows, in this particular situation there might actually be a legitimate advantage if you factor in the mysterious jackpot thing.
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The luck part is not picking the winning even chance, the luck part is the jackpot number coming up at the same time because I have no control over that.
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July 12th, 2023 at 8:06:01 AM permalink
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On the old Gamblers Glen forum I had over 20,000 posts about roulette and that was before 2010. If I don't know what I'm doing I certainly have a lot of time to waste talking about nothing.
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You had. You don't. You do.
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You're wrong. As usual.
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July 12th, 2023 at 9:53:53 AM permalink
It has been almost 13 years exactly since EvenBob joined the Wizard of Odds forum. In that time he has made 26,423 posts. That comes out to just over 5 1/2 posts every single day for the last 13 years. And that's just on this website. We know he's an active member of other forums, too. Sounds to me like he DOES have a lot of time to waste talking about nothing.
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July 12th, 2023 at 10:11:45 AM permalink
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It has been almost 13 years exactly since EvenBob joined the Wizard of Odds forum. In that time he has made 26,423 posts. That comes out to just over 5 1/2 posts every single day for the last 13 years. And that's just on this website. We know he's an active member of other forums, too. Sounds to me like he DOES have a lot of time to waste talking about nothing.
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Far far more likely that he knows how to beat roulette, plays frequently, wins always, but does not want to be rich or famous as the greatest Roulette player that ever lived, in spite of him comparing himself to Einstein.... Said no-one ever!
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July 12th, 2023 at 10:58:47 AM permalink
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It has been almost 13 years exactly since EvenBob joined the Wizard of Odds forum. In that time he has made 26,423 posts. That comes out to just over 5 1/2 posts every single day for the last 13 years. And that's just on this website. We know he's an active member of other forums, too. Sounds to me like he DOES have a lot of time to waste talking about nothing.
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Far far more likely that he knows how to beat roulette, plays frequently, wins always, but does not want to be rich or famous as the greatest Roulette player that ever lived, in spite of him comparing himself to Einstein.... Said no-one ever!
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Can you imagine if Einstein said it was too much work to try to prove his scientific discoveries. If he said "what's in it for me?"

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July 12th, 2023 at 11:29:41 AM permalink
Einstein spent his last two decades chasing a theory that still hasn't been solved. It's a shame he didn't spend time trying to solve roulette. He'd have been famous.
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July 12th, 2023 at 11:42:09 AM permalink
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On the old Gamblers Glen forum I had over 20,000 posts about roulette and that was before 2010. If I don't know what I'm doing I certainly have a lot of time to waste talking about nothing.
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You had. You don't. You do.
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EB, there has never been any useful information about roulette in any of your posts that I have seen. Perhaps you could point to a post you are proud of and I could finally see something of value. Please, don't refer to the post where you quoted a student's homework submission to prove a point.

You just write about unsubstantiated claims that you have a winning system with no details. I would love to see you write substantively about any topic related to gambling. Frankly, your claims are rather boring. You are like Seinfeld, a show about nothing.
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July 12th, 2023 at 2:26:33 PM permalink
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Frankly, your claims are rather boring. You are like Seinfeld, a show about nothing.
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EB has proclaimed that he posts solely for his own amusement. We should, if we had any sense, leave him as the one man audience of his one man show. But morbid curiosity draws a crowd.
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July 12th, 2023 at 3:30:13 PM permalink
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EB, there has never been any useful information about roulette in any of your posts that I have seen.
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I have gone on in detail about how I use patterns and trends to beat roulette. What you want is for me to draw you an exact map, bring it to your house, take you by the hand to the casino and show you how to do it over and over until you understand. That's the only thing you would find useful. How is it my fault your abilities in figuring things out for yourself are somewhat lacking, obviously. That's not on me, buddy, that's on you.
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July 12th, 2023 at 3:31:40 PM permalink
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Einstein spent his last two decades chasing a theory that still hasn't been solved. It's a shame he didn't spend time trying to solve roulette. He'd have been famous.
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So you're saying Einstein isn't famous because he didn't study roulette? Are you sure you want to stick with that? Einstein seems pretty darn famous to me.
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July 12th, 2023 at 4:28:00 PM permalink
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Einstein spent his last two decades chasing a theory that still hasn't been solved. It's a shame he didn't spend time trying to solve roulette. He'd have been famous.
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So you're saying Einstein isn't famous because he didn't study roulette? Are you sure you want to stick with that? Einstein seems pretty darn famous to me.
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I have to agree with that.

I vaguely remember a story about a famous mathematician or someone like that who supposedly went insane trying to figure out how to beat roulette. Perhaps it was just some fable or something. Do you or anyone know about this story?
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
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July 12th, 2023 at 4:47:19 PM permalink
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Einstein spent his last two decades chasing a theory that still hasn't been solved. It's a shame he didn't spend time trying to solve roulette. He'd have been famous.
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So you're saying Einstein isn't famous because he didn't study roulette? Are you sure you want to stick with that? Einstein seems pretty darn famous to me.
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I have to agree with that.

I vaguely remember a story about a famous mathematician or someone like that who supposedly went insane trying to figure out how to beat roulette. Perhaps it was just some fable or something. Do you or anyone know about this story?
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July 12th, 2023 at 5:02:50 PM permalink
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EB, there has never been any useful information about roulette in any of your posts that I have seen.
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I have gone on in detail about how I use patterns and trends to beat roulette. What you want is for me to draw you an exact map, bring it to your house, take you by the hand to the casino and show you how to do it over and over until you understand. That's the only thing you would find useful. How is it my fault your abilities in figuring things out for yourself are somewhat lacking, obviously. That's not on me, buddy, that's on you.
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No. I want to you to point out where you detailed this. I have never seen any detail. All I have ever seen are vague claims about patterns.

Has anyone on this forum ever seen EB detail anything?
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July 12th, 2023 at 5:22:48 PM permalink
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No. I want to you to point out where you detailed this. I have never seen any detail. All I have ever seen are vague claims about patterns.

Has anyone on this forum ever seen EB detail anything?
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Explain what you mean by detail. You think you're so smart, ask me questions and I'll answer them. I guarantee you don't want to know the answers, I guarantee you want me to come to your house and show you how it's done step by step by step over and over until you get it. And then even after you've gotten it you'll want me to go to the casino with you and bet my money so you can see that it really works. Not just once but many many times. That's the kind of detail you want.
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July 12th, 2023 at 5:28:00 PM permalink
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It has been almost 13 years exactly since EvenBob joined the Wizard of Odds forum. In that time he has made 26,423 posts. That comes out to just over 5 1/2 posts every single day for the last 13 years. And that's just on this website. We know he's an active member of other forums, too. Sounds to me like he DOES have a lot of time to waste talking about nothing.
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Far far more likely that he knows how to beat roulette, plays frequently, wins always, but does not want to be rich or famous as the greatest Roulette player that ever lived, in spite of him comparing himself to Einstein.... Said no-one ever!
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Being able to correctly guess future outcomes based on previous random patterns with an 80% hit rate would have far greater applications than being the greatest Roulette player that ever lived.

Im sure NASA, The Military, The US Government, Musk, Scientists, Mathatitions, Major companies, Meteroligosts, etc. would absolutely love to have this knowledge.

I'm sure online casinos would pay a significant amount of money to protect themselves from this. They could write a program to detect people who are detecting and betting on patterns while agreeing to let Bob continue to play if he wants.

He could probably get enough to actually pay for a laundry service and really save some time.

If time is so precious to him it's mind-boggling as to why he is sitting around all-day playing roulette just to make enough to pay his monthly bills.

Even if it wasn't near 80% accuracy it would be highly valuable information. I would personally pay him more than he will ever make. What's that going to cost 200k-300k? I think with an 80% hit rate I could make that back within a week totally undetected. I'll even pay for Bob's Laundry services.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
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July 12th, 2023 at 5:33:09 PM permalink
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I guarantee you don't want to know the answers, I guarantee you want me to come to your house and show you how it's done step by step by step over and over until you get it.

You had Mike's full attention to show proof and as predicted you...

FAILED
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
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July 12th, 2023 at 5:46:15 PM permalink
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Being able to correctly guess future outcomes based on previous random patterns with an 80% hit rate would have far greater applications than being the greatest Roulette player that ever lived.



You always on purpose leave out the most crucial part of the equation and that is it doesn't happen all the time. Some days it doesn't happen at all and you know this yet you totally ignore it and act like I just sit down and Bam Bam Bam knock out 80% like a machine gun. You're right if I could do that I would be rich but I can't I don't I never will so quit implying that I do.
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July 12th, 2023 at 5:48:04 PM permalink
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FAILED
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So you think, but I've asked your time and time again that you should really stop doing that. Trying to think.
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July 12th, 2023 at 6:01:50 PM permalink
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FAILED
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So you think, but I've asked your time and time again that you should really stop doing that. Trying to think.
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Bob your a pretty interesting character, if pressed I would rather hear the Turtle farmers thoughts though. :)
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July 12th, 2023 at 7:09:56 PM permalink
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Being able to correctly guess future outcomes based on previous random patterns with an 80% hit rate would have far greater applications than being the greatest Roulette player that ever lived.



You always on purpose leave out the most crucial part of the equation and that is it doesn't happen all the time. Some days it doesn't happen at all and you know this yet you totally ignore it and act like I just sit down and Bam Bam Bam knock out 80% like a machine gun. You're right if I could do that I would be rich but I can't I don't I never will so quit implying that I do.
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You are the one that said you did/could. One just needs to go back and read that thread. It's hard to pinpoint exactly what you're claiming because you didn't seem to grasp simple math concepts and can't stick to a simple answer to a simple question. Answers from you are wishy-washy at best. Do you make one unit a day 80% of the time? You can win 80% of your bets 1% of the time. You make 5 bets a day and win 80%? Do you have an 80% advantage? Do you have a 40% advantage? It seems like you don't even know. Talk about seeing patterns, I'm definitely seeing a pattern here.

Whatever the case, even if you only have a measly 20% advantage guessing correctly via patterns on roulette with 24 hours of pattern spotting until you're confident in making a bet... you should/could be rich, and you have information worth millions.

It's not our fault you can't figure out how to fully take advantage of the situation after all these years.
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♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
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July 12th, 2023 at 7:30:30 PM permalink
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Being able to correctly guess future outcomes based on previous random patterns with an 80% hit rate would have far greater applications than being the greatest Roulette player that ever lived.



You always on purpose leave out the most crucial part of the equation and that is it doesn't happen all the time. Some days it doesn't happen at all and you know this yet you totally ignore it and act like I just sit down and Bam Bam Bam knock out 80% like a machine gun. You're right if I could do that I would be rich but I can't I don't I never will so quit implying that I do.
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If you could predict a coinflip type of bet with an 80% hit rate that would be fairly easy to convince Mike. It wouldn't take long at all to make him say, WTF this guy is on to something. And you would be filthy rich.

If you're claiming a much lower hit rate/advantage and you go days without finding it, then that means you don't have nearly enough trials to know that it's actually legitimate and works.
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July 12th, 2023 at 7:49:44 PM permalink
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It's hard to pinpoint exactly what you're claiming
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It's not hard at all because I've explained it many times and you know exactly what my claims are you just like to pretend you don't for whatever convoluted reason you have. If you think I'm going to explain it all again don't hold your breath.
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July 12th, 2023 at 7:53:12 PM permalink
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[If you could predict a coinflip type of bet with an 80% hit rate that would be fairly easy to convince Mike.
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One stream of information from one coin predicted 80% of the time? If I could do that I'd be rich. You know I can't do that why do you babble on about this ridiculousness.
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July 12th, 2023 at 9:02:53 PM permalink
Bob, I only know what you have claimed and what everyone else knows you have claimed. Perhaps you yourself don't know what you have claimed. Your last 2 posts are nothing but deflection pretending you haven't said those things. You have even confirmed your claims of ridiculous edges and hit rates.

Judge Judy Sheindlin “If you tell the truth, then you don't have to have a good memory”

Later, I'll see if I can find the occasions and different claims regarding your roulette crap. You might want to first do so that way you can be ready for some more deflection and backtracking.

In the meantime ill leave everyone with this.

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I see the patterns in my mind
The patterns nobody else can find
My first bet I hit at 80 percent
I use the winnings to pay my rent
But if by chance the sleepers awake
Two more wagers I need to make
Or two more….or two more after that
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July 12th, 2023 at 10:21:20 PM permalink
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My first bet I hit at 80 percent

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Yep, that's when I bet. How often do you think I bet. You seem to be an expert on everything I've said so tell me, how often do you think I bet. I just observed 15 spins how many times did I bet during those 15 spins. This is an easy question for somebody who seems to know everything about what I do. So go ahead, answer it, smart guy.
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July 14th, 2023 at 9:09:25 AM permalink
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No. I want to you to point out where you detailed this. I have never seen any detail. All I have ever seen are vague claims about patterns.

Has anyone on this forum ever seen EB detail anything?
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Explain what you mean by detail. You think you're so smart, ask me questions and I'll answer them. I guarantee you don't want to know the answers, I guarantee you want me to come to your house and show you how it's done step by step by step over and over until you get it. And then even after you've gotten it you'll want me to go to the casino with you and bet my money so you can see that it really works. Not just once but many many times. That's the kind of detail you want.
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You want detail, ask me questions. You want me to fill in the blanks, ask me questions. But you don't know what questions to ask because you don't know what you're doing. Just admit it you're out of your depth.
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July 14th, 2023 at 9:30:55 AM permalink
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No. I want to you to point out where you detailed this. I have never seen any detail. All I have ever seen are vague claims about patterns.

Has anyone on this forum ever seen EB detail anything?
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Explain what you mean by detail. You think you're so smart, ask me questions and I'll answer them. I guarantee you don't want to know the answers, I guarantee you want me to come to your house and show you how it's done step by step by step over and over until you get it. And then even after you've gotten it you'll want me to go to the casino with you and bet my money so you can see that it really works. Not just once but many many times. That's the kind of detail you want.
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You want detail, ask me questions. You want me to fill in the blanks, ask me questions. But you don't know what questions to ask because you don't know what you're doing. Just admit it you're out of your depth.
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Boring response. Please try to be an entertaining fraud.
Gambling is a math contest where the score is tracked in dollars. Try not to get a negative score.
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July 14th, 2023 at 10:20:43 AM permalink
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No. I want to you to point out where you detailed this. I have never seen any detail. All I have ever seen are vague claims about patterns.

Has anyone on this forum ever seen EB detail anything?
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Explain what you mean by detail. You think you're so smart, ask me questions and I'll answer them. I guarantee you don't want to know the answers, I guarantee you want me to come to your house and show you how it's done step by step by step over and over until you get it. And then even after you've gotten it you'll want me to go to the casino with you and bet my money so you can see that it really works. Not just once but many many times. That's the kind of detail you want.
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You want detail, ask me questions. You want me to fill in the blanks, ask me questions. But you don't know what questions to ask because you don't know what you're doing. Just admit it you're out of your depth.
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Boring response. Please try to be an entertaining fraud.
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Like I said you are all hat and no cattle. You have no questions because you have no idea what you're doing.
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July 14th, 2023 at 3:11:31 PM permalink
Alright, I have a question.
Why do you make up things in your mind all the time? Does it get you some weird form of satisfaction? Legit question.
Don't beat yourself up over past mistakes, you are going to f*** up again in the future, quite possibly in the most spectacular fashion, why worry about yesterday's f*** up's when you have tomorrow's f*** up's to look forward to? You are a f*** up, and f***** up is part of your growth process, embrace the process.
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July 14th, 2023 at 4:19:59 PM permalink
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Alright, I have a question.
Why do you make up things in your mind all the time? Does it get you some weird form of satisfaction? Legit question.
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You mean why do I fantasize about being related to Elon Musk, I think the answer to that is obvious. As far as making things up in my mind, where else would I make them up, in my foot? In my left hand? LOL
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July 15th, 2023 at 4:24:00 AM permalink
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My first bet I hit at 80 percent

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Yep, that's when I bet. How often do you think I bet. You seem to be an expert on everything I've said so tell me, how often do you think I bet. I just observed 15 spins how many times did I bet during those 15 spins. This is an easy question for somebody who seems to know everything about what I do. So go ahead, answer it, smart guy.
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I'm certainly not an expert on everything you said. I don't think anyone could remain sain for long even just being an expert on 10% of the stuff you have said. Just going back to your original math stuff is enough to drive someone batty as all hell.

I do remember some things clearly and others things only vaguely.

How could I possibly know how often you bet? Even if I guessed right, you wouldn't admit it.

At one time, I vaguely remember you saying something about making 1 unit per day, but I don't know exactly what you claimed. You said you make just enough to pay your bills. I will assume $1500 a month I could assume you make 1 bet every 40 ish hours on average. But just before your challenge you conveniently switch it up and said something about making more bets at a lower hit rate. IIRC you dropped all the way down to the 55-60 % range.

You make little sense most of the time when yapping about your fictitious method. To this day you haven't been able to figure out what your advantage is. 5%? 10%? 20% 30%? 50%? 70%? And whatever numbers you have tossed out don't jive with whatever hit rate you are claiming at the time.

You claim 80% hit rate. Then you claim you can't, and now you claim...
Johnzimbo: "My first bet I hit at 80 percent"
EvenBob: "Yep, that's when I bet." EVERYONE knows that is practically impossible over any substantial number of bets.

Wishy-washy, Wishy-washy, Wishy-washy.
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♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
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July 15th, 2023 at 7:26:26 AM permalink
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My first bet I hit at 80 percent

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Yep, that's when I bet. How often do you think I bet. You seem to be an expert on everything I've said so tell me, how often do you think I bet. I just observed 15 spins how many times did I bet during those 15 spins. This is an easy question for somebody who seems to know everything about what I do. So go ahead, answer it, smart guy.
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I'm certainly not an expert on everything you said. I don't think anyone could remain sain for long even just being an expert on 10% of the stuff you have said. Just going back to your original math stuff is enough to drive someone batty as all hell.

I do remember some things clearly and others things only vaguely.

How could I possibly know how often you bet? Even if I guessed right, you wouldn't admit it.

At one time, I vaguely remember you saying something about making 1 unit per day, but I don't know exactly what you claimed. You said you make just enough to pay your bills. I will assume $1500 a month I could assume you make 1 bet every 40 ish hours on average. But just before your challenge you conveniently switch it up and said something about making more bets at a lower hit rate. IIRC you dropped all the way down to the 55-60 % range.

You make little sense most of the time when yapping about your fictitious method. To this day you haven't been able to figure out what your advantage is. 5%? 10%? 20% 30%? 50%? 70%? And whatever numbers you have tossed out don't jive with whatever hit rate you are claiming at the time.

You claim 80% hit rate. Then you claim you can't, and now you claim...
Johnzimbo: "My first bet I hit at 80 percent"
EvenBob: "Yep, that's when I bet." EVERYONE knows that is practically impossible over any substantial number of bets.

Wishy-washy, Wishy-washy, Wishy-washy.
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Hey Axel, Do online casinos provide players with W2G's or some such tax reporting instruments? Do you know what is required of online casinos regarding net wins over any given period of time? Just askin'

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