Can Roulette Be Beaten?
Quote: SOOPOOI’ve beaten the sports books (for low amounts). I can prove it. My online accounts will give me a ‘to date’ summary of how much I’ve bet, and how much I have won.
I also can show each deposit, and each withdrawal, and my total balance remaining.
But more importantly, over the course of the time I’ve been doing this I’ve explained how I’ve done it, in mathematically testable ways. Showing where the edge is.
EB says just believe me. No one does.
I’ve asked this before…. He knows he doesn’t win at roulette, but what is his motive for making such stupid claims?
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Yes he wants attention but more importantly he wants it from a group of people who are advantage players.
He doesn't understand how to AP. He is on this site for over a decade posting mostly nonsense (the highest post count and what can anyone remember of any of his posts?) And suddenly you understand what this is about.
He wants to stand out. Axel stands out as an overall AP. I stand out as a multi-carder. MDawg stands out as beating Baccarat.
So EB is jealous he has no ones attention other than post count so he concocts a Roulette beating scam and look it works.
EB is now associated with beating Roulette even if an unproven claim.
The rest is just bravado to piss people off which has a word on the internet that is in Lord of the Rings and turns to stone in daylight.
Quote: DRich
Very simple answer. He wants attention.
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It's honestly kind of sad.... then again, it's hard to feel bad for him when so many of his posts are so hateful and ignorant.
Quote: SOOPOO
I’ve asked this before…. He knows he doesn’t win at roulette, but what is his motive for making such stupid claims?
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He is the Copernicus of Roulette. But one day, you will see...
...that you are still right.
Quote: TigerWuQuote: DRich
Very simple answer. He wants attention.
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It's honestly kind of sad.... then again, it's hard to feel bad for him when so many of his posts are so hateful and ignorant.
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We have another bingo!
Quote: AxelWolfI'm on the road, perhaps I didn't post this. I don't see it, so excuse me if I did as I attempted to.
The only thing Bob has prove... is the fact that ghe can't prove Jack shit, even when given a golden opportunity to do so with The Wizards completed attention.
He could easily prove he is beating the cassinos with records and logs.
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It's very simple. Tell us what online casinos you will be playing with a starting date and and give Mile access to your account's.
Yes, IF I had something to prove, I would do the same thing.
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Profanity. Three day suspension.
Quote: SOOPOOHe knows he doesn’t win at roulette
I know no such thing and neither do you, you're just making a bad guess. Because you can't do it and you're always the smartest guy in the room you're hoping I can't do it either because what does that make you look like. Now there's a bingo..
Quote: TigerWuQuote: DRich
Very simple answer. He wants attention.
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It's honestly kind of sad.... then again, it's hard to feel bad for him when so many of his posts are so hateful and ignorant.
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What would be sad is if at 74 I'm doing things for attention like a teenager. And my posts are not hateful and ignorant, they are arrogant and informed. That's how I get when I try to wise up the peanut gallery..
Even if you want to redact it, this can be done in a matter of minutes. This will show that you are a long-term winner. I think 5 years of consistent roulette wins (especially if you play everyday) would be pretty powerful. And, it would not risk giving up your system (it would only affirm that you are a long-term winner online at the casino in question).
You play 100% online, "the receipts" are so easy to get, it is a nothingburger, the amount of years you have been going back and forth they could have been released thousands of times. I have no doubt that in whatever State you are in, you can get the records at least five years back, this is pretty standard.
Doing a multiweek challenge of somebody watching you play for hours every day is silly, when a few PDFs being emailed can solve this virtually instantly. If you want this affirmed, I don't understand how this has not been proposed yet.
Quote: GandlerIf you play 100% online on the same casinos, just release your online transaction statements and win/loss summary from the casino that you claim to win at,
I already told you how I win, in detail. Many times. But that's not good enough, you won't prove it to yourself so you want me to do all the work. And even if I did what you asked you would still say I fudged the results somehow so why would I bother because I'm getting zero out of it.
It's like I explained a really cool card trick to you and gave you every detail on how it's done but instead of trying it yourself you want me to send you a video of all the details. If only life were that easy.
Quote: EvenBobQuote: GandlerIf you play 100% online on the same casinos, just release your online transaction statements and win/loss summary from the casino that you claim to win at,
I already told you how I win, in detail. Many times. But that's not good enough, you won't prove it to yourself so you want me to do all the work. And even if I did what you asked you would still say I fudged the results somehow so why would I bother because I'm getting zero out of it.
It's like I explained a really cool card trick to you and gave you every detail on how it's done but instead of trying it yourself you want me to send you a video of all the details. If only life were that easy.
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You would gain a massive amount of credibility, if you show everyone in this thread you consistently profit at roulette year after year, so that is not zero. I mean your post is all about credibility anyway, you are not selling a system, so if you want everyone to believe that you are winning this can be easily accomplished (I don't want to see them, show them to somebody who everyone trusts like one of the mods).
I don't care about your method, but if you are truly winning every session, and every year, that is something, even if it is just an unreal run of luck for years.
This is very easy, you can even have the casinos send them directly to the evaluator if you are afraid of accusations of doctoring (or let people view the statements on the casino website in real time). But, I doubt anyone would think it's doctored if it is the original download. Somebody who is familiar with online casinos in your State can give you a walkthrough if you need it (I am not familiar with your State), if not if you call the help line for the online casino branch, I am sure they can give you a detailed walkthrough.
Quote: Gandler
You would gain a massive amount of credibility, if you show everyone in this thread you consistently profit at roulette year after year, so that is not zero.
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Everyone is ruining perfectly good sticks whacking at this dead horse EB is trying to sell us.
And she's not only merely dead she's really most sincerely dead.
Quote: Gandler
You would gain a massive amount of credibility,
Would it come with a free lollipop and a wink and a nod? Wow how did I live this long without that..
Quote: rxwine
Everyone is ruining perfectly good sticks whacking at this dead horse EB is trying to sell us.
How would you know it's dead, you never even tried it. You speak with no authority.
Quote: darkoz(the highest post count and what can anyone remember of any of his posts?)
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The only posts of his I remember are these roulette-system-troll posts and a number of racist comments from a few years ago. Oh, I guess he's said a few things about cats, too, and I vaguely remember something about sardines?
But, yeah, absolutely nothing of substance.
Quote: EvenBobQuote: rxwine
Everyone is ruining perfectly good sticks whacking at this dead horse EB is trying to sell us.
How would you know it's dead, you never even tried it. You speak with no authority.
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So far, it has all the merits of snake oil.
Quote: EvenBobQuote: Gandler
You would gain a massive amount of credibility,
Would it come with a free lollipop and a wink and a nod? Wow how did I live this long without that..
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It is just advice for a simple way to establish your claims. If you are not looking for credibility, I don't know why you have been posting about the same topic for 13 years.
Quote: TigerWuQuote: darkoz(the highest post count and what can anyone remember of any of his posts?)
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The only posts of his I remember are these roulette-system-troll posts and a number of racist comments from a few years ago. Oh, I guess he's said a few things about cats, too, and I vaguely remember something about sardines?
But, yeah, absolutely nothing of substance.
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I think you're wrong, I think there's less than nothing if that's possible. Quite an achievement. LOL
It is also clear that EB never loses and argument on this site. If you don't believe me, just ask EB.
Once he has trained up ChatGPT, EB will be a even more difficult opponent to debate.
Quote: Mental
Once he has trained up ChatGPT, EB will be a even more difficult opponent to debate.
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Chat GTP is interesting in that when I give it a bunch of actuals from a real wheel it can instantly tell me anything I want to know about those numbers.
Quote: EvenBobQuote: Mental
Once he has trained up ChatGPT, EB will be a even more difficult opponent to debate.
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Chat GTP is interesting in that when I give it a bunch of actuals from a real wheel it can instantly tell me anything I want to know about those numbers.
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Precisely what I would do if I could beat roulette, use Chat GTP to try and figure out how to beat roulette.
Careful. If you post statements like this, the Michigan casinos will surely get chat GTP banned as giving you an unfair advantage over roulette.Quote: EvenBobQuote: Mental
Once he has trained up ChatGPT, EB will be a even more difficult opponent to debate.
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Chat GTP is interesting in that when I give it a bunch of actuals from a real wheel it can instantly tell me anything I want to know about those numbers.
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The set of 'anything I would want to know about the numbers' would certainly include 'Which number will come up on the next spin?'. I don't need the answer instantly. Thirty seconds would be fine.
Quote: rainmanQuote: EvenBobQuote: Mental
Once he has trained up ChatGPT, EB will be a even more difficult opponent to debate.
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Chat GTP is interesting in that when I give it a bunch of actuals from a real wheel it can instantly tell me anything I want to know about those numbers.
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Precisely what I would do if I could beat roulette, use Chat GTP to try and figure out how to beat roulette.
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That's not what I'm doing I already know how to beat roulette I'm going to teach the machine how to beat roulette so it can help me see things that I have not seen so far. Get it? Got it? Doubtful..
I also know how to beat roulette by using free slot play, either direct FSP or FSP via loss rebates. Would it be too much to ask for you to teach ChatGTP the many other ways of APing roulette aside from your super secret awesome method?Quote: EvenBobThat's not what I'm doing I already know how to beat roulette I'm going to teach the machine how to beat roulette so it can help me see things that I have not seen so far. Get it? Got it? Doubtful..
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Do you already have a signed NDA from Chat GPT so it won't spill the beans on your amazing system?
What if ChatGPT starts mocking you and your method? Can you suspend it?
Quote: MentalI also know how to beat roulette by using free slot play, either direct FSP or FSP via loss rebates. Would it be too much to ask for you to teach ChatGTP the many other ways of APing roulette aside from your super secret awesome method?Quote: EvenBobThat's not what I'm doing I already know how to beat roulette I'm going to teach the machine how to beat roulette so it can help me see things that I have not seen so far. Get it? Got it? Doubtful..
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Do you already have a signed NDA from Chat GPT so it won't spill the beans on your amazing system?
What if ChatGPT starts mocking you and your method? Can you suspend it?
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Your questions are ridiculous because you obviously know nothing about GPT. Try boning up on it and get back to me or don't. Either way is fine with me.
One of us has written, trained and tested three completely different types of AI programs (including language-model AI) and the other one of us lives in Michigan.Quote: EvenBobQuote: MentalI also know how to beat roulette by using free slot play, either direct FSP or FSP via loss rebates. Would it be too much to ask for you to teach ChatGTP the many other ways of APing roulette aside from your super secret awesome method?Quote: EvenBobThat's not what I'm doing I already know how to beat roulette I'm going to teach the machine how to beat roulette so it can help me see things that I have not seen so far. Get it? Got it? Doubtful..
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Do you already have a signed NDA from Chat GPT so it won't spill the beans on your amazing system?
What if ChatGPT starts mocking you and your method? Can you suspend it?
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Your questions are ridiculous because you obviously know nothing about GPT. Try boning up on it and get back to me or don't. Either way is fine with me.
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I do know that if you train an AI program, anyone who has access to the AI program also has access to the 'knowledge' that the AI has gained in training.
Finally, ChatGP can be sarcastic if you ask it to be sarcastic. I am not entirely certain that it will detect the need to mock your roulette system, though. You may still need human APs to provide that service.
Trump also brays that he won the election.
Birds of a feather?
Quote: MentalOne of us has written, trained and tested three completely different types of AI programs (including language-model AI) and the other one of us lives in Michigan.Quote: EvenBobQuote: MentalI also know how to beat roulette by using free slot play, either direct FSP or FSP via loss rebates. Would it be too much to ask for you to teach ChatGTP the many other ways of APing roulette aside from your super secret awesome method?Quote: EvenBobThat's not what I'm doing I already know how to beat roulette I'm going to teach the machine how to beat roulette so it can help me see things that I have not seen so far. Get it? Got it? Doubtful..
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Do you already have a signed NDA from Chat GPT so it won't spill the beans on your amazing system?
What if ChatGPT starts mocking you and your method? Can you suspend it?
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Your questions are ridiculous because you obviously know nothing about GPT. Try boning up on it and get back to me or don't. Either way is fine with me.
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I do know that if you train an AI program, anyone who has access to the AI program also has access to the 'knowledge' that the AI has gained in training.
Finally, ChatGP can be sarcastic if you ask it to be sarcastic. I am not entirely certain that it will detect the need to mock your roulette system, though. You may still need human APs to provide that service.
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Your questions are ridiculous because it has no ability to remember who you are or what you talked about from session to session.
"ChatGPT doesn't can recall things from one meeting to another. Every communication with ChatGPT is treated as a different and free discussion. The model doesn't have memory of past meetings or data shared inside them. Along these lines, it will not recall you or a particular subtleties from past discussions."
When I say I'm going to teach chat GTP what I mean is I'm going to teach myself how to use it as a tool. You can't really teach it anything because it doesn't remember.
Quote: EvenBobQuote: MentalOne of us has written, trained and tested three completely different types of AI programs (including language-model AI) and the other one of us lives in Michigan.Quote: EvenBobQuote: MentalI also know how to beat roulette by using free slot play, either direct FSP or FSP via loss rebates. Would it be too much to ask for you to teach ChatGTP the many other ways of APing roulette aside from your super secret awesome method?Quote: EvenBobThat's not what I'm doing I already know how to beat roulette I'm going to teach the machine how to beat roulette so it can help me see things that I have not seen so far. Get it? Got it? Doubtful..
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Do you already have a signed NDA from Chat GPT so it won't spill the beans on your amazing system?
What if ChatGPT starts mocking you and your method? Can you suspend it?
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Your questions are ridiculous because you obviously know nothing about GPT. Try boning up on it and get back to me or don't. Either way is fine with me.
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I do know that if you train an AI program, anyone who has access to the AI program also has access to the 'knowledge' that the AI has gained in training.
Finally, ChatGP can be sarcastic if you ask it to be sarcastic. I am not entirely certain that it will detect the need to mock your roulette system, though. You may still need human APs to provide that service.
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Your questions are ridiculous because it has no ability to remember who you are or what you talked about from session to session.
"ChatGPT doesn't can recall things from one meeting to another. Every communication with ChatGPT is treated as a different and free discussion. The model doesn't have memory of past meetings or data shared inside them. Along these lines, it will not recall you or a particular subtleties from past discussions."
When I say I'm going to teach chat GTP what I mean is I'm going to teach myself how to use it as a tool. You can't really teach it anything because it doesn't remember.
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Thats what it wants you to believe.
Quote: billryanQuote: EvenBobQuote: MentalOne of us has written, trained and tested three completely different types of AI programs (including language-model AI) and the other one of us lives in Michigan.Quote: EvenBobQuote: MentalI also know how to beat roulette by using free slot play, either direct FSP or FSP via loss rebates. Would it be too much to ask for you to teach ChatGTP the many other ways of APing roulette aside from your super secret awesome method?Quote: EvenBobThat's not what I'm doing I already know how to beat roulette I'm going to teach the machine how to beat roulette so it can help me see things that I have not seen so far. Get it? Got it? Doubtful..
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Do you already have a signed NDA from Chat GPT so it won't spill the beans on your amazing system?
What if ChatGPT starts mocking you and your method? Can you suspend it?
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Your questions are ridiculous because you obviously know nothing about GPT. Try boning up on it and get back to me or don't. Either way is fine with me.
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I do know that if you train an AI program, anyone who has access to the AI program also has access to the 'knowledge' that the AI has gained in training.
Finally, ChatGP can be sarcastic if you ask it to be sarcastic. I am not entirely certain that it will detect the need to mock your roulette system, though. You may still need human APs to provide that service.
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Your questions are ridiculous because it has no ability to remember who you are or what you talked about from session to session.
"ChatGPT doesn't can recall things from one meeting to another. Every communication with ChatGPT is treated as a different and free discussion. The model doesn't have memory of past meetings or data shared inside them. Along these lines, it will not recall you or a particular subtleties from past discussions."
When I say I'm going to teach chat GTP what I mean is I'm going to teach myself how to use it as a tool. You can't really teach it anything because it doesn't remember.
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Thats what it wants you to believe.
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This is what I just asked it.
Me: Do you remember what we talked about last time
ChatGPT
I apologize, but as an AI language model, I don't have the ability to retain memory of specific conversations from one session to another. Each interaction with me is treated as a separate and independent conversation.
SO, you are totally missing the point about what it means to train ChatGPT. You need to take the off-the=shelf ChatGPT, install it on our system, and then train it with your own data. This modifies the data that is the knowledge base of ChatGPT, allowing it to remember its training.Quote: EvenBobQuote: billryanQuote: EvenBobQuote: MentalOne of us has written, trained and tested three completely different types of AI programs (including language-model AI) and the other one of us lives in Michigan.Quote: EvenBobQuote: MentalI also know how to beat roulette by using free slot play, either direct FSP or FSP via loss rebates. Would it be too much to ask for you to teach ChatGTP the many other ways of APing roulette aside from your super secret awesome method?Quote: EvenBobThat's not what I'm doing I already know how to beat roulette I'm going to teach the machine how to beat roulette so it can help me see things that I have not seen so far. Get it? Got it? Doubtful..
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Do you already have a signed NDA from Chat GPT so it won't spill the beans on your amazing system?
What if ChatGPT starts mocking you and your method? Can you suspend it?
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Your questions are ridiculous because you obviously know nothing about GPT. Try boning up on it and get back to me or don't. Either way is fine with me.
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I do know that if you train an AI program, anyone who has access to the AI program also has access to the 'knowledge' that the AI has gained in training.
Finally, ChatGP can be sarcastic if you ask it to be sarcastic. I am not entirely certain that it will detect the need to mock your roulette system, though. You may still need human APs to provide that service.
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Your questions are ridiculous because it has no ability to remember who you are or what you talked about from session to session.
"ChatGPT doesn't can recall things from one meeting to another. Every communication with ChatGPT is treated as a different and free discussion. The model doesn't have memory of past meetings or data shared inside them. Along these lines, it will not recall you or a particular subtleties from past discussions."
When I say I'm going to teach chat GTP what I mean is I'm going to teach myself how to use it as a tool. You can't really teach it anything because it doesn't remember.
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Thats what it wants you to believe.
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This is what I just asked it.
Me: Do you remember what we talked about last time
ChatGPT
I apologize, but as an AI language model, I don't have the ability to retain memory of specific conversations from one session to another. Each interaction with me is treated as a separate and independent conversation.
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train·ing (noun) the action of teaching a person or animal a particular skill or type of behavior.
You are the one who brought up the idea of training ChatGPT, but you don't seem to understand what training means. If you train ChatGPT properly, there is persistence to the new skills that ChatGPT was trained on.
What have you done to train ChatGPT? I suspect you have taken none of the necessary steps to create a training set and customize ChatGPT to your ends.
Quote: Mental
What have you done to train ChatGPT? I suspect you have taken none of the necessary steps to create a training set and customize ChatGPT to your ends.
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I have no desire to do that it's much too time consuming. I just want to use it as a tool, a shortcut to help me see patterns that I might be missing. I misspoke when I said I was going to train it, it's more that it's going to help me learn.
Waiting to hear this line again.
If it were me, I'd instead use that time to make more money winning at roulette.
Quote: ChicagoSkinnyI can't believe someone with a surefire roulette beating system is wasting so much of their time on this forum.
If it were me, I'd instead use that time to make more money winning at roulette.
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I mean, it can't be that surefire, he's not even a millionaire yet and he's been at it for years.
Maybe he's just lulling us into a false sense of security...!
Until EB publishes his mathematical tour de force, I amuse myself about wondering how long it takes for a pattern to be established. I am not concerned just about when the pattern overcomes the house edge. I just want to know the minimum number of observations that can be used to improve the EV relative to -1/37 (or -2/38 for double zero).
If the first two spins are {17,33}, can information be extracted from this to improve the prediction for the next roll? Maybe there is no information in just two observations. I asked google and got this: What is next in the series 17, 33 ....
This answer is not very useful for roulette.Quote:What is next in the series 3, 4, 8, 17, 33? The next number in the series is 64. This is a geometric sequence with common ratio of 2.
How about a series of 10 spins like {17,33,35,11,6,28,10,17,3,24}? Note that this is really a series of 8 spins, since I already admitted that the 17 and 33 convey no useful information for predicting the future.
Or maybe we need 30 spins (which is really 20 spins because the first 10 spins convey no information that can be used to predict the future probabilities).
If a series of N-1 spins contains no predictive information and a series of N spins contains some exploitable information, then the number that came up in Nth spin must necessarily contain all of the predictive information. I just cannot figure out what the value of N is. I can't wait for EB to tell us.
Sure, go ahead and test this out and report back. It is probably a more sophisticated system than the one EB has developed.Quote: ChumpChangeI find some numbers repeat one after the other (25, 25), so maybe there is some betting system that can semi-press on a won number by betting the same straight-up number. Once you figure out the repeaters, just stay on them.
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Quote: MentalSomeday EB will write a treatise on his method for detecting patterns in roulette spins and we will all have to give him his due once it is properly explained to us lazy gamblers.
Until EB publishes his mathematical tour de force, I amuse myself about wondering how long it takes for a pattern to be established. I am not concerned just about when the pattern overcomes the house edge. I just want to know the minimum number of observations that can be used to improve the EV relative to -1/37 (or -2/38 for double zero).
If the first two spins are {17,33}, can information be extracted from this to improve the prediction for the next roll? Maybe there is no information in just two observations. I asked google and got this: What is next in the series 17, 33 ....This answer is not very useful for roulette.Quote:What is next in the series 3, 4, 8, 17, 33? The next number in the series is 64. This is a geometric sequence with common ratio of 2.
How about a series of 10 spins like {17,33,35,11,6,28,10,17,3,24}? Note that this is really a series of 8 spins, since I already admitted that the 17 and 33 convey no useful information for predicting the future.
Or maybe we need 30 spins (which is really 20 spins because the first 10 spins convey no information that can be used to predict the future probabilities).
If a series of N-1 spins contains no predictive information and a series of N spins contains some exploitable information, then the number that came up in Nth spin must necessarily contain all of the predictive information. I just cannot figure out what the value of N is. I can't wait for EB to tell us.
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It's really not that complicated, you just have to observe the outcomes for a long period of time and you'll begin to see that sometimes everything makes logical sense and those are the time you want to bet. Quite often it's just random making no sense and you just walk away. It has nothing to do with when a pattern starts or ends it has to do with what's going on altogether.
Quote: ChumpChangeI find some numbers repeat one after the other (25, 25), so maybe there is some betting system that can semi-press on a won number by betting the same straight-up number. Once you figure out the repeaters, just stay on them.
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Lots of people do that, it even gives you that information on some electronic roulette boards. People who do it are usually broke that's why they give you the information.
Quote: MentalSure, go ahead and test this out and report back. It is probably a more sophisticated system than the one EB has developed.
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Maybe he just counts how many cats walk through his bedroom over the course of an hour and then bets on that number.
Quote: TigerWuQuote: MentalSure, go ahead and test this out and report back. It is probably a more sophisticated system than the one EB has developed.
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Maybe he just counts how many cats walk through his bedroom over the course of an hour and then bets on that number.
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Cats are not allowed in my bedroom, nice try though. My bedroom in my office are cat free areas.
I believe it is even simpler than that. In every session where you make your one-unit goal, you claim that there was a pattern that you ferreted out. In every session where you lose, you claim that there was not a pattern, so that session does not count against your record.Quote: EvenBobIt's really not that complicated, you just have to observe the outcomes for a long period of time and you'll begin to see that sometimes everything makes logical sense and those are the time you want to bet. Quite often it's just random making no sense and you just walk away. It has nothing to do with when a pattern starts or ends it has to do with what's going on altogether.
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And the story I quoted remains...unsolved as to how that guy has beaten roulette.
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gambling/betting-systems/36647-the-adventures-of-mdawg-ii/65/#post886187
Quote: MentalSomeday EB will write a treatise on his method for detecting patterns in roulette spins and we will all have to give him his due once it is properly explained to us lazy gamblers.
Until EB publishes his mathematical tour de force, I amuse myself about wondering how long it takes for a pattern to be established. I am not concerned just about when the pattern overcomes the house edge. I just want to know the minimum number of observations that can be used to improve the EV relative to -1/37 (or -2/38 for double zero).
If the first two spins are {17,33}, can information be extracted from this to improve the prediction for the next roll? Maybe there is no information in just two observations. I asked google and got this: What is next in the series 17, 33 ....This answer is not very useful for roulette.Quote:What is next in the series 3, 4, 8, 17, 33? The next number in the series is 64. This is a geometric sequence with common ratio of 2.
How about a series of 10 spins like {17,33,35,11,6,28,10,17,3,24}? Note that this is really a series of 8 spins, since I already admitted that the 17 and 33 convey no useful information for predicting the future.
Or maybe we need 30 spins (which is really 20 spins because the first 10 spins convey no information that can be used to predict the future probabilities).
If a series of N-1 spins contains no predictive information and a series of N spins contains some exploitable information, then the number that came up in Nth spin must necessarily contain all of the predictive information. I just cannot figure out what the value of N is. I can't wait for EB to tell us.
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EB does not have a winning system.
In fact he doesn't even have an imaginary winning system.
Point is he changes everything he says over time so even in his head it's not consistent.
For example did you know that EB also claims he can beat Baccarat? However the reason he doesn't bother is because it takes too much time to wait for a possible winning bet to be made
Which of course is in direct contradiction to his winning roulette system where he only makes one wager per day and sometimes spends all day not making any wagers.
Evidence below.
Quote: darkoz
For example did you know that EB also claims he can beat Baccarat? However the reason he doesn't bother is because it takes too much time to wait for a possible winning bet to be made
That's funny because the last three or four days I've been playing Baccarat on four tables at the same time and have been doing okay. But it's still rather slow because there's only one stream to follow and the patterns are different than they are in roulette, not a lot different but different enough. I really enjoy Baccarat I wish I could play it all the time
Quote: MDawgI'm not a roulette player, and this is probably known to any who play roulette in Vegas, but there are majors on the Strip who give back half of the bet on even money bets if the single 0 hits, lowering the house edge on this "French" roulette to 1.35%
And the story I quoted remains...unsolved as to how that guy has beaten roulette.
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gambling/betting-systems/36647-the-adventures-of-mdawg-ii/65/#post886187
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I believe this is known as "la Partage", in case people are searching later.
Quote: DieterQuote: MDawgI'm not a roulette player, and this is probably known to any who play roulette in Vegas, but there are majors on the Strip who give back half of the bet on even money bets if the single 0 hits, lowering the house edge on this "French" roulette to 1.35%
And the story I quoted remains...unsolved as to how that guy has beaten roulette.
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gambling/betting-systems/36647-the-adventures-of-mdawg-ii/65/#post886187
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I believe this is known as "la Partage", in case people are searching later.
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Yes and it's available almost nowhere in the United States. Very very few casinos in Vegas and I've never seen or heard of an Indian casino that had it. If you ask them they don't even know what it is and they look at you like you're insane.
Quote: MDawgI'm not a roulette player, and this is probably known to any who play roulette in Vegas, but there are majors on the Strip who give back half of the bet on even money bets if the single 0 hits, lowering the house edge on this "French" roulette to 1.35%
And the story I quoted remains...unsolved as to how that guy has beaten roulette.
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gambling/betting-systems/36647-the-adventures-of-mdawg-ii/65/#post886187
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That is true, it is also offered on some double zero games (double zero roulette with surrender are better than a single zero without for outside bet). A single zero with surrender is obviously the best, but these are more rare.
Of course, this only applies to even money bets so if you just bet inside based on number predictions, it does not change the house edge for you (the number of zeros on the wheel would).
