Can Roulette Be Beaten?
1 day suspension for you, for intentional baiting.Quote: gpac1377What is his character?
Quote: AxelWolf1 day suspension for you, for intentional baiting.
Bob, can you please give us an update on your friend who wins every session? I promise not to laugh.
Quote: AxelWolf1 day suspension for you, for intentional baiting.
I assume he is only an apprentice baiter ?
Quote: bigfoot66I can't believe that Bob used the term "zipper head" and no one called him out on it. Wow. .
It was almost 4 years ago. And I have yet to this
day heard that term used to mean anything but dope.
If it's an insult to a race, it's news to me. We used
it in the 50's, it meant the person was an idiot. I
can't be responsible for a words meaning outside
my area.
To Brits the word 'pissed' means drunk. To me it means
angry. Which is correct? I have dozens of other examples,
want more?
Quote: EvenBobIt was almost 4 years ago. And I have yet to this
day heard that term used to mean anything but dope.
If it's an insult to a race, it's news to me. We used
it in the 50's, it meant the person was an idiot. I
can't be responsible for a words meaning outside
my area.
To Brits the word 'pissed' means drunk. To me it means
angry. Which is correct? I have dozens of other examples,
want more?
Ref words with different meanings...
There was a youtube video going around here in Korea where an African-American English schoolteacher here beat up an old Korean man on a crowded bus. The old man was telling him "You can sit here" and repeated it. Unfortunately a word for "you" in Hangul is 니가 (Neega). Just a slight misunderstanding :) Pretty bad though, as most my Korean friends think most blacks are violent and dangerous, thanks in part to all the US reality cop shows shown on tv here.
Quote: EdgeLookerPretty bad though, as most my Korean friends think most blacks are violent and dangerous, thanks in part to all the US reality cop shows shown on tv here.
Jesse Jackson has said he crosses the street
if he see's a couple blacks in hoodies coming
from the other direction. Juan Williams has
said basically the same thing. Why do you
think they do that.
Quote: rsactuaryYou know... the roulette thread rang a bell. Sure enough....8+ years ago
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But this thread starts with Evenbob's friend's success.
Quote: rxwineQuote: rsactuaryYou know... the roulette thread rang a bell. Sure enough....8+ years ago
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But this thread starts with Evenbob's friend's success.
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Not only that, EB claims his friend has been doing this Roulette success for thirty years. And that was ten years ago.
It's also obvious EB is talking about himself and not a friend since he claims in this thread not to even know how it's done, while in the other thread he says he found the methods on his own.
Which means in theory he claims to have been doing this now on forty years.
As usual, the I'm, facts are never kept straight.
Who knew?
Quote: EvenBobI remember this thread I started it the week I came here from gamblers Glen and I was trying to disguise who I was by changing my story around. It didn't work people figured it out anyway. This was a long time ago, 12 years. I only knew a small portion compared to what I know now about roulette.
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So you were lying then, you didn't have a friend who beat roulette for thirty years but now you are telling the truth.
Yeah that always works.
Quote: EvenBobI remember this thread I started it the week I came here from gamblers Glen and I was trying to disguise who I was by changing my story around. It didn't work people figured it out anyway. This was a long time ago, 12 years. I only knew a small portion compared to what I know now about roulette.
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It was totally obvious since there's no chance you have any friends.
Why are roulette players treated so poorly? Are casinos afraid the machines are susceptible to advantage play or comp hustling?
Quote: JackSpadeI find it strange that many casinos offer no player points on their roulette machines. Yet they will offer player points on every other machine, including the best video poker machines (though typically at a lower rate than slots). A player who picks a video poker machine with a halfway decent pay table and plays with a halfway decent strategy can expect better returns than -00- roulette.
Why are roulette players treated so poorly? Are casinos afraid the machines are susceptible to advantage play or comp hustling?
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Because you bet Red I bet Black and we clean up.
Quote: JackSpadeI find it strange that many casinos offer no player points on their roulette machines. Yet they will offer player points on every other machine, including the best video poker machines (though typically at a lower rate than slots). A player who picks a video poker machine with a halfway decent pay table and plays with a halfway decent strategy can expect better returns than -00- roulette.
Why are roulette players treated so poorly? Are casinos afraid the machines are susceptible to advantage play or comp hustling?
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Years and years ago my wife would get these offers in the mail for like $50 in free spins. I would take her player's card and put it in the Bally roulette machine and bet red and black until I had $50 in credit and cash it out for real money. Sometimes I would get a zero it'll be less than $50 but it was easy gas money. I'm talking pre-2010.
If the situation is right. It even turns non Advantage Players into opportunists given the no-variance factor, it also attracts underfunded AP's. You'll have 20x the amount of guys targeting a +EV free roll on something like this than you would on something like VP or slots.Quote: rainmanQuote: JackSpadeI find it strange that many casinos offer no player points on their roulette machines. Yet they will offer player points on every other machine, including the best video poker machines (though typically at a lower rate than slots). A player who picks a video poker machine with a halfway decent pay table and plays with a halfway decent strategy can expect better returns than -00- roulette.
Why are roulette players treated so poorly? Are casinos afraid the machines are susceptible to advantage play or comp hustling?
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Because you bet Red I bet Black and we clean up.
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Even when there's no possible +EV, the casinos understand casing losses/ tilt factor, and "it house money". They want you to have variance since that usually leads to more gambling one way or the other.
Also, the casinos have just been burned too many times to want to deal with it.
Otherwise no
This makes no sense.
Whatever the case, your friend is right, it is the "Gambler's Fallacy".
C'mon Gandler, try to keep up....Quote: GandlerWait so you claim to have been playing roulette for over 20 years (if I am misremembering that, I apologize), and in 2010 you had a friend who had a suspiciously similar system he same system that you use now? And, at the time you said you had no idea how the system works, you just watch and follow your friend?
This makes no sense.
Whatever the case, your friend is right, it is the "Gambler's Fallacy".
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EvenBob already admitted the lie. That he was "trying to disguise who I was by changing my story around"
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gambling/tables/2285-can-roulette-be-beaten/3/#post862901
Quote: OnceDearC'mon Gandler, try to keep up....Quote: GandlerWait so you claim to have been playing roulette for over 20 years (if I am misremembering that, I apologize), and in 2010 you had a friend who had a suspiciously similar system he same system that you use now? And, at the time you said you had no idea how the system works, you just watch and follow your friend?
This makes no sense.
Whatever the case, your friend is right, it is the "Gambler's Fallacy".
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EvenBob already admitted the lie. That he was "trying to disguise who I was by changing my story around"
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gambling/tables/2285-can-roulette-be-beaten/3/#post862901
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That is even more bizarre (I didn't read past the first page), if he was that worried about getting caught why post about it on one of the most watched casino forums?
And, now he is not worried about getting caught because the system (sorry method) is too abstract or something?
This makes even less sense in my view.
It can’t be beaten because the amount that they pay back is slightly less than all of the numbers coming out and that’s where the edge comes from it has nothing to do with the numbers that come out in general
Quote: GandlerQuote: OnceDearC'mon Gandler, try to keep up....Quote: GandlerWait so you claim to have been playing roulette for over 20 years (if I am misremembering that, I apologize), and in 2010 you had a friend who had a suspiciously similar system he same system that you use now? And, at the time you said you had no idea how the system works, you just watch and follow your friend?
This makes no sense.
Whatever the case, your friend is right, it is the "Gambler's Fallacy".
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EvenBob already admitted the lie. That he was "trying to disguise who I was by changing my story around"
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gambling/tables/2285-can-roulette-be-beaten/3/#post862901
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That is even more bizarre (I didn't read past the first page), if he was that worried about getting caught why post about it on one of the most watched casino forums?
And, now he is not worried about getting caught because the system (sorry method) is too abstract or something?
This makes even less sense in my view.
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Mistake #1: Looking for sense in this thread.
You might have better luck, understanding EvenBob's raison d'etre if you go Down this rabbit hole
He's already got two threads in the 'Recent threads' list, might as well bump another. Maybe he can crowd out the other guy.
$:o)
Why would players be willing to put money on a -0000- wheel, you may ask?
First, because those who are currently willing to play -000- wheels aren't concerned about the house edge or else they would be playing a different game. They want action.
Second, because this game would give players more action than any other form of roulette they've ever played! How? By letting them spin the ball.
Players would be given the opportunity to become 'shooters' by dropping the ball into an automatic accelerator that regulates the speed of the spin. Players could decide when to drop the ball as the wheel itself spins, thus giving them the illusion of having some control over the outcome. But the accelerator's speed would vary randomly within a range to foil any attempts to make accurate predictions about where the ball will land.
Quote: rainmanQuote: JackSpadeI find it strange that many casinos offer no player points on their roulette machines. Yet they will offer player points on every other machine, including the best video poker machines (though typically at a lower rate than slots). A player who picks a video poker machine with a halfway decent pay table and plays with a halfway decent strategy can expect better returns than -00- roulette.
Why are roulette players treated so poorly? Are casinos afraid the machines are susceptible to advantage play or comp hustling?
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Because you bet Red I bet Black and we clean up.
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Except for when the green comes in and you both lose, although we know, zero and double zero hit so rarely, we don't factor them in.
Quote: billryanQuote: rainmanQuote: JackSpadeI find it strange that many casinos offer no player points on their roulette machines. Yet they will offer player points on every other machine, including the best video poker machines (though typically at a lower rate than slots). A player who picks a video poker machine with a halfway decent pay table and plays with a halfway decent strategy can expect better returns than -00- roulette.
Why are roulette players treated so poorly? Are casinos afraid the machines are susceptible to advantage play or comp hustling?
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Because you bet Red I bet Black and we clean up.
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Except for when the green comes in and you both lose, although we know, zero and double zero hit so rarely, we don't factor them in.
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i would spend hours at (previously) sands bethlehem and there was every type of bettor possible - including the lady who would only put 25 on 0 and 00 and there were days where she would "clean them out"... she never actually won because i was also there the days she never hit as often
I would guess that the percentage of roulette players who opt for -0- wheels is much smaller than 11.6%. This is because some casinos keep their -0- wheels in lightly trafficked high limit lounges and may only have them available during certain hours of the day, so a typical -0- wheel will probably generate fewer daily wagers than -00- and -000- wheels. Also, roulette machines make up a large percentage of roulette wagers at most casinos - and I've never seen a -0- variant.
Of course, any roulette player with a bankroll of at least $100 (the standard minimum on -0-) should optimally be playing -0- when available - unless they are using a roulette machine just to earn player points (at a casino where it is still possible to do so).
Quote: JackSpade11.6% of roulette wheels on the strip are -0-/euro.
I would guess that the percentage of roulette players who opt for -0- wheels is much smaller than 11.6%. This is because some casinos keep their -0- wheels in lightly trafficked high limit lounges and may only have them available during certain hours of the day, so a typical -0- wheel will probably generate fewer daily wagers than -00- and -000- wheels. Also, roulette machines make up a large percentage of roulette wagers at most casinos - and I've never seen a -0- variant.
Of course, any roulette player with a bankroll of at least $100 (the standard minimum on -0-) should optimally be playing -0- when available - unless they are using a roulette machine just to earn player points (at a casino where it is still possible to do so).
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Although rare I have seen single zero Roulette machines.
It's been awhile however so maybe they took them out. I'm pretty certain I saw them somewhere in Atlantic City circa 2014 or thereabouts.
Quote: darkozQuote: JackSpade11.6% of roulette wheels on the strip are -0-/euro.
I would guess that the percentage of roulette players who opt for -0- wheels is much smaller than 11.6%. This is because some casinos keep their -0- wheels in lightly trafficked high limit lounges and may only have them available during certain hours of the day, so a typical -0- wheel will probably generate fewer daily wagers than -00- and -000- wheels. Also, roulette machines make up a large percentage of roulette wagers at most casinos - and I've never seen a -0- variant.
Of course, any roulette player with a bankroll of at least $100 (the standard minimum on -0-) should optimally be playing -0- when available - unless they are using a roulette machine just to earn player points (at a casino where it is still possible to do so).
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Although rare I have seen single zero Roulette machines.
It's been awhile however so maybe they took them out. I'm pretty certain I saw them somewhere in Atlantic City circa 2014 or thereabouts.
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Bally Gaming had a single zero roulette machine many years ago. I think it was the first video roulette game that I ever saw. I would guess that was back in the 1990's.
Ballys used to have them by the stairs. They are either 00 now or something else. Chester still has some.Quote: darkoz
Although rare I have seen single zero Roulette machines.
It's been awhile however so maybe they took them out. I'm pretty certain I saw them somewhere in Atlantic City circa 2014 or thereabouts.
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I say roulette can be beaten easily if you can spot the right patterns.Quote: EvenBobI asked the AI genius Chat GTP if roulette could be beaten and guess what it said. It just parroted everything anybody's ever said about roulette and said absolutely nothing new. Random outcomes,, independent spins, nobody can win at roulette on a regular basis. So Chat GTP is just a glorifed Google, it has nothing original all it does is tells you what everybody else says on the subject. It would not even attempt to beat roulette because everybody else says it can't be done. Little do they know, LOL..
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I was playing single zero roulette online and a quickly picked up on a pattern. I was betting black at $100 per spin. The pattern that I noticed was that the site was adding $3 in 1x site credits to my account after every spin. I also noticed that this pattern only starts after I hit the 'Opt In' button and the pattern always ends after 334 spins.
Unlike you, EB, I believe I have a quantifiable edge for my roulette system of more than 0.3%. I know the edge for your system is much larger, but it isn't quantifiable, meaning your edge may actually be negative.
It was decades ago when Atlantic City was a fravored, busy east coast gambling Mecca.
My wife and kids flew east to vacation and spent the day in AC, mostly swimming and tanning on the AC beach.
Curious, having never gambled before in a casino, I went to Ballys in my bathing suit and T shirt to check it out.
I knew the basics of foulette; I bet a buck on my lucky number, 32: it hit, I pocketed my meager winnings and left.
Yahoo, I beat the game.
Then I tried a carnival type game they had called Red Dog and won a bit there as well.
Walking out I felt on top of the world.
Quote: MentalI know the edge for your system is much larger, but it isn't quantifiable, meaning your edge may actually be negative.
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Nope, wrong. Quantifiable also means significant, measurable, what I do is both significant and measurable. And it's the polar opposite of negative. I make my goal every time I play.
just imagine - if EB could prove he can do what he says he can do - which he can't or won't - most likely can't
he would be known and celebrated all over the world as a great man
he would be the guy who proved that all of those who said it was not possible - no matter how brilliant they are or were - were wrong
instead he's only known on this tiny little forum and maybe a couple of other tiny little forums due to his clickbaiting efforts - what a shame
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Quote: MentalI say roulette can be beaten easily if you can spot the right patterns.Quote: EvenBobI asked the AI genius Chat GTP if roulette could be beaten and guess what it said. It just parroted everything anybody's ever said about roulette and said absolutely nothing new. Random outcomes,, independent spins, nobody can win at roulette on a regular basis. So Chat GTP is just a glorifed Google, it has nothing original all it does is tells you what everybody else says on the subject. It would not even attempt to beat roulette because everybody else says it can't be done. Little do they know, LOL..
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I was playing single zero roulette online and a quickly picked up on a pattern. I was betting black at $100 per spin. The pattern that I noticed was that the site was adding $3 in 1x site credits to my account after every spin. I also noticed that this pattern only starts after I hit the 'Opt In' button and the pattern always ends after 334 spins.
Unlike you, EB, I believe I have a quantifiable edge for my roulette system of more than 0.3%. I know the edge for your system is much larger, but it isn't quantifiable, meaning your edge may actually be negative.
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you have bee fooled by something called RRS
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just imagine - if EB could prove he can do what he says he can do - which he can't or won't - most likely can't
he would be known and celebrated all over the world as a great man
he would be the guy who proved that all of those who said it was not possible - no matter how brilliant they are or were - were wrong
instead he's only known on this tiny little forum and maybe a couple of other tiny little forums due to his clickbaiting efforts - what a shame
.
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But I do prove it everyday to the casinos I play at. Why would I have any interest and what good would it do me to prove it anywhere else. Try and think through these posts before you make them.
Quote: heatmapQuote: MentalI say roulette can be beaten easily if you can spot the right patterns.Quote: EvenBobI asked the AI genius Chat GTP if roulette could be beaten and guess what it said. It just parroted everything anybody's ever said about roulette and said absolutely nothing new. Random outcomes,, independent spins, nobody can win at roulette on a regular basis. So Chat GTP is just a glorifed Google, it has nothing original all it does is tells you what everybody else says on the subject. It would not even attempt to beat roulette because everybody else says it can't be done. Little do they know, LOL..
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I was playing single zero roulette online and a quickly picked up on a pattern. I was betting black at $100 per spin. The pattern that I noticed was that the site was adding $3 in 1x site credits to my account after every spin. I also noticed that this pattern only starts after I hit the 'Opt In' button and the pattern always ends after 334 spins.
Unlike you, EB, I believe I have a quantifiable edge for my roulette system of more than 0.3%. I know the edge for your system is much larger, but it isn't quantifiable, meaning your edge may actually be negative.
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you have bee fooled by something called RRS
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What is RRS, rambling roulette syndrome? How did it fool me, was it wearing a disguise? Why don't I feel like I've been fooled.
Quote: EvenBobQuote: lilredrooster.
just imagine - if EB could prove he can do what he says he can do - which he can't or won't - most likely can't
he would be known and celebrated all over the world as a great man
he would be the guy who proved that all of those who said it was not possible - no matter how brilliant they are or were - were wrong
instead he's only known on this tiny little forum and maybe a couple of other tiny little forums due to his clickbaiting efforts - what a shame
.
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But I do prove it everyday to the casinos I play at. Why would I have any interest and what good would it do me to prove it anywhere else. Try and think through these posts before you make them.
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What he is saying is you can't prove it and the reason you can't prove it is because you are doing something that if we accused you of it would result in suspension.
The only thing Bob has prove... is the fact that ghe can't prove Jack shit, even when given a golden opportunity to do so with The Wizards completed attention.
He could easily prove he is beating the cassinos with records and logs.
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It's very simple. Tell us what online casinos you will be playing with a starting date and and give Mile access to your account's.
Yes, IF I had something to prove, I would do the same thing.
Quote: AxelWolfI'm on the road, perhaps I didn't post this. I don't see it, so excuse me if I did as I attempted to.
The only thing Bob has prove... is the fact that ghe can't prove Jack shit, even when given a golden opportunity to do so with The Wizards completed attention.
He could easily prove he is beating the cassinos with records and logs.
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It's very simple. Tell us what online casinos you will be playing with a starting date and and give Mile access to your account's.
I'll get right on that as soon as I figure out what's in it for me. All I see is your benefit none for myself. Please enlighten me what do I get out of it please don't tell me I get respect because with respect and a dollar I can get a coffee at McDonald's.
Quote: darkozQuote: EvenBobQuote: lilredrooster.
just imagine - if EB could prove he can do what he says he can do - which he can't or won't - most likely can't
he would be known and celebrated all over the world as a great man
he would be the guy who proved that all of those who said it was not possible - no matter how brilliant they are or were - were wrong
instead he's only known on this tiny little forum and maybe a couple of other tiny little forums due to his clickbaiting efforts - what a shame
.
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But I do prove it everyday to the casinos I play at. Why would I have any interest and what good would it do me to prove it anywhere else. Try and think through these posts before you make them.
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What he is saying is you can't prove it and the reason you can't prove it is because you are doing something that if we accused you of it would result in suspension.
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You think you figured out what I'm saying, could you figure out what I'm thinking? I'll give you a clue, what I'm thinking is things you wouldn't like.
Quote: EvenBobQuote: darkozQuote: EvenBobQuote: lilredrooster.
just imagine - if EB could prove he can do what he says he can do - which he can't or won't - most likely can't
he would be known and celebrated all over the world as a great man
he would be the guy who proved that all of those who said it was not possible - no matter how brilliant they are or were - were wrong
instead he's only known on this tiny little forum and maybe a couple of other tiny little forums due to his clickbaiting efforts - what a shame
.
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But I do prove it everyday to the casinos I play at. Why would I have any interest and what good would it do me to prove it anywhere else. Try and think through these posts before you make them.
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What he is saying is you can't prove it and the reason you can't prove it is because you are doing something that if we accused you of it would result in suspension.
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You think you figured out what I'm saying, could you figure out what I'm thinking? I'll give you a clue, what I'm thinking is things you wouldn't like.
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No one has liked what you are thinking for a long time.
you recounting your astounding tales of success is not proof
and you know it's not proof
you have been offered various ways to prove to the forum that you can do what you claim and you have declined
never mind the reasons you gave
this is something that could easily be tested
unless you do this your fantastic tales will not be believed
and the chance that you will accept the challenge and prove you can do what you say you can do is:
slim and none
if just about anybody had a chance to prove to the world that they could do what all brilliant minds would say is impossible and be celebrated for a fantastic accomplishment they would jump at the chance
nuff said
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I also can show each deposit, and each withdrawal, and my total balance remaining.
But more importantly, over the course of the time I’ve been doing this I’ve explained how I’ve done it, in mathematically testable ways. Showing where the edge is.
EB says just believe me. No one does.
I’ve asked this before…. He knows he doesn’t win at roulette, but what is his motive for making such stupid claims?
Quote: SOOPOO
I’ve asked this before…. He knows he doesn’t win at roulette, but what is his motive for making such stupid claims?
Very simple answer. He wants attention.
Quote: DRichQuote: SOOPOO
I’ve asked this before…. He knows he doesn’t win at roulette, but what is his motive for making such stupid claims?
Very simple answer. He wants attention.
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As Hans Landa would say: Thats a bingo!
