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May 29th, 2015 at 7:13:11 PM permalink
So the Wizard says the strategy is Q-6-4 and I always interpreted that to mean that if you have anything less than that to throw it out. So if I had a Q-6-3, for example, I tossed my hand. It was pointed out to me that me doing this was wrong. So am I misinterpreting the Wizard's wise words?
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May 29th, 2015 at 7:15:05 PM permalink
Quote: HotBlonde

So the Wizard says the strategy is Q-6-4 and I always interpreted that to mean that if you have anything less than that to throw it out. So if I had a Q-6-3, for example, I tossed my hand. It was pointed out to me that me doing this was wrong. So am I misinterpreting the Wizard's wise words?


Folding Q63 is the right play.
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May 29th, 2015 at 7:45:12 PM permalink
Probably a dealer telling you its wrong since they are always right.

Q 6 3 is a fold.
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May 29th, 2015 at 7:47:01 PM permalink
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Probably a dealer telling you its wrong since they are always right.

Q 6 3 is a fold.


Most dealers tell you to play Q10 or better.
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May 29th, 2015 at 7:59:48 PM permalink
Dealer never told me what is the "right strategy" other than "you should hold that" or "you should fold that".

Then again, I prefer OCP.
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May 29th, 2015 at 8:28:45 PM permalink
Yeah I've heard many civilians and dealers say Q10 which is wrong.
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May 30th, 2015 at 1:48:45 AM permalink
What if I got an A-5-3? Do I toss it cause the 5 and 3 are less than the 6 and the 4?
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May 30th, 2015 at 1:54:25 AM permalink
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What if I got an A-5-3? Do I toss it cause the 5 and 3 are less than the 6 and the 4?



The blond part of your make-up is kicking in. Think about what you just wrote. Is A-5-3 going to beat Q-6-4 in a showdown?
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May 30th, 2015 at 2:19:31 AM permalink
Quote: Ibeatyouraces

Folding Q63 is the right play.


If you win ties (I've only heard of this, never seen it), play Q63 if they are three different suits.
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May 30th, 2015 at 5:13:17 AM permalink
Quote: miplet

If you win ties (I've only heard of this, never seen it), play Q63 if they are three different suits.

Yes - I've heard that one but never seen a game pay ties (I can't remember the old Isle Of Man rules where it was known as Crib).

Most Raise or Fold type of poker games have a cut-off point where lower hands fold and higher hands stay in the game. In some versions, such as 5-card, the decision also depends on the dealer's up-card.

The thought process is by folding you can lose one unit; whereas by staying in you risk losing the additional raise as well, but this is offset by the chances of winning something. The cut-off point is where it becomes better to stay in - mathematically raising will return more than folding (-1). On the other side, i.e. with worse hands than Q64, you are better off folding and taking the "-1" loss; staying in might work, but in the long run you'll lose more.
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May 30th, 2015 at 7:51:54 AM permalink
I just feel bad if I get a Q-J-2 that I have to throw it out.
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May 30th, 2015 at 7:57:10 AM permalink
Quote: HotBlonde

I just feel bad if I get a Q-J-2 that I have to throw it out.


Don't feel bad. I'll throw it A, 7, 6 sometimes 8-)
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May 30th, 2015 at 8:22:17 AM permalink
Quote: HotBlonde

I just feel bad if I get a Q-J-2 that I have to throw it out.



Wait... What? J>6...
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May 30th, 2015 at 8:33:21 AM permalink
From Wizard's three card poker page https://wizardofodds.com/games/three-card-poker/

Quote: Wizard

Many people have asked me what I mean by queen/6/4, wondering for example whether queen/7/3 is greater than queen/6/4. In any poker based game hands are scored first according to the highest card, then the second, and then the third, and so on if there are more. So a queen/7/3 would beat queen/6/4. The queens tie so the second highest cards are used to break the tie, and a 7 beats a 6. The third card does not matter in this case because the hand was resolved by the second card.

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May 30th, 2015 at 8:50:57 AM permalink
Quote: miplet

If you win ties (I've only heard of this, never seen it), play Q63 if they are three different suits.



If you win ties and ante bonus 1/4/5, play Q64(HE=3.241514%), play Q63(HE=3.241593%), play Q62(HE=3.244328%).

So , the correct BS still play Q64 ???
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June 1st, 2015 at 11:20:23 PM permalink
Quote: rdw4potus

Wait... What? J>6...

yes but that's what I'm saying... The queen is there, the jack is bigger than the 6, but the 2 is lower than the four. You see what I'm saying? According to the Wizard's rules you have to throw it out cause all 3 don't qualify.
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June 1st, 2015 at 11:22:43 PM permalink
Quote: Dalex64

From Wizard's three card poker page https://wizardofodds.com/games/three-card-poker/

Quote: Wizard

Many people have asked me what I mean by queen/6/4, wondering for example whether queen/7/3 is greater than queen/6/4. In any poker based game hands are scored first according to the highest card, then the second, and then the third, and so on if there are more. So a queen/7/3 would beat queen/6/4. The queens tie so the second highest cards are used to break the tie, and a 7 beats a 6. The third card does not matter in this case because the hand was resolved by the second card.

just saw this. Ok that makes more sense. So if the second card is higher than a 6 you can keep the hand. But what if you have an A-5-3?
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June 2nd, 2015 at 12:35:20 AM permalink
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...But what if you have an A-5-3?

If at the showdown your hand would beat or Tie Q 6 4 then you play, otherwise fold.
Therefore you play the following hands.
(i) Any Straight, Flush or Straight Flush even if all the cards are small.
(ii) Any Trips or Pair even if all the cards are small.
(iii) Any Hand with an Ace or King.
(iv) Any Hand with a Queen and a 7 or higher.
(v) Any Hand with a Queen, a 6, and either a 5 or 4.

The logic is if you don't have a Pair or Higher then initially only the highest card of each hand is compared.
?xx Thus an Ace beats a Queen (A53 beats Q64).
=?x It is only if both hands have a Queen-high that the second card is compared (Q73 beats Q64).
==? The third card is used only if both higher cards are the same (Q65 beats Q64).
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June 2nd, 2015 at 3:01:15 AM permalink
Quote: charliepatrick

If at the showdown your hand would beat or Tie Q 6 4 then you play, otherwise fold.
Therefore you play the following hands.
(i) Any Straight, Flush or Straight Flush even if all the cards are small.
(ii) Any Trips or Pair even if all the cards are small.
(iii) Any Hand with an Ace or King.
(iv) Any Hand with a Queen and a 7 or higher.
(v) Any Hand with a Queen, a 6, and either a 5 or 4.

The logic is if you don't have a Pair or Higher then initially only the highest card of each hand is compared.
?xx Thus an Ace beats a Queen (A53 beats Q64).
=?x It is only if both hands have a Queen-high that the second card is compared (Q73 beats Q64).
==? The third card is used only if both higher cards are the same (Q65 beats Q64).

Makes perfect sense! See, I knew there was some confusion on my end. Now maybe the Wizard can copy and paste what you just wrote and add it to his strategy page!
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June 11th, 2015 at 1:31:49 PM permalink
So where do I find these machines? I find 8/5 but no 9/6.
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June 12th, 2015 at 1:42:29 PM permalink
No one knows?
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June 12th, 2015 at 3:30:43 PM permalink
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No one knows?



Did you change the question from 3CardPoker to Video Poker?

The guys were saying in another thread that VpFree.com tries to keep current lists of where you can play different paytables. They also said it's mostly smaller, off-strip casinos, and that 9/6 being desirable depends on which Video Poker game you were playing. It's also going to depend on what denomination you are looking for, whether it's available some place. However, a lot of the best machines, people don't necessarily want to advertise publicly on here because they don't want the competition, so maybe you should PM someone for a lead or two.
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June 12th, 2015 at 4:08:10 PM permalink
Quote: beachbumbabs

Did you change the question from 3CardPoker to Video Poker?

The guys were saying in another thread that VpFree.com tries to keep current lists of where you can play different paytables. They also said it's mostly smaller, off-strip casinos, and that 9/6 being desirable depends on which Video Poker game you were playing. It's also going to depend on what denomination you are looking for, whether it's available some place. However, a lot of the best machines, people don't necessarily want to advertise publicly on here because they don't want the competition, so maybe you should PM someone for a lead or two.

oops, my question is in regards to VP
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June 12th, 2015 at 4:18:50 PM permalink
I think BBB was referring to www.vpfree2.com (vpfree.com doesn't go anywhere useful on my computer).
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June 12th, 2015 at 5:38:35 PM permalink
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I think BBB was referring to www.vpfree2.com (vpfree.com doesn't go anywhere useful on my computer).

Awesome. Exactly what I was looking for. I posted in the wrong thread!
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June 13th, 2015 at 9:49:29 AM permalink
HB, here is real 9/6 JoB...



Now as I stated in a previous post, here is the fake 9/6 JoB...

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June 13th, 2015 at 10:43:53 AM permalink
Thank you!
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