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mrsuit31
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May 31st, 2010 at 9:22:49 AM permalink
Hey all, My company just released the online demo of our new table game Money$uit 31. The game is an inovative new card game that deviates from your typical poker based table game; Money$uit 31 based on the popular card game Scat(31). We have been in talks with several different casinos in several jurisdictions about conducting our field trial, which should be taking place within the year (depending on which jurisdiction we go live in) The Demo website is www.moneysuit31.com. I would love to hear what you all have to say!
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miplet
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May 31st, 2010 at 9:31:46 AM permalink
Do you hae a stratagy for this game, or do I need to analyze it myself?
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cardshark
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May 31st, 2010 at 10:58:07 AM permalink
I tried the demo, and I have to say this is one of the most innovative and fun casino table games I have ever come across. I really hope you make it - I think your game has a lot of potential. I hope I can give a try in a real casino some time soon.

What's the house edge on the game (I know that's a loaded question because, for this game, the house edge is influenced by player strategy and bet amount)? Is it dealt from a shoe of multiple decks, or a single deck? What percentage of the jackpot side bet feeds the progressive jackpot?

I like the family pot idea - it adds competition and it offers free odds. The game is simple to learn, but also deep, in terms of strategy. Very cool stuff!
dwheatley
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May 31st, 2010 at 11:56:21 AM permalink
I can see a player folding a lot if there was no family pot, but if you bet the table minimum you should be playing a lot more to try and improve your hand and thus win the family pot. While there is a strategy to minimize the house edge against the 'play' and 'ante' tables, there may not be a total optimal player strategy, as it would depend on what strategy the other players are playing...
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mrsuit31
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May 31st, 2010 at 12:40:15 PM permalink
Thank you for the kind words. Im hoping that very soon you will have the oppertunity to play live.

The optimal strategy as stated by gaming labs international is folding all hands other than a 16 or higher, an A and ten value card of opposing suits, a pair of eights or better and an already winning hand. That being said, personaly knowing this information, I dont even stick to this strategy. Also, the discard strategy is much more complicated, yet that is the most fun and exciting portion of the game!

The game is dealt with a single deck, which is shuffled every hand.

Money$uit 31 has a corresponding house edge of %6.85. Some say that this is a little high, but when taking the family pot(free odds) and the possible high payouts for a three card game into consideration the high house edge isnt as significant as it appears to be. Also, the pay stucture of the play wager is similar to that of the pair plus side bet in three card poker, whcih has a coressponding house edge of %7.

Again thank you for the kind words.
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Zcore13
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May 31st, 2010 at 12:48:19 PM permalink
Good game mrsuit31. Reminds me a lot of "Flop Poker". I would definately consider the game in the Casino I work if you ever got licensed in Arizona. Good luck to you!
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mrsuit31
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May 31st, 2010 at 12:55:17 PM permalink
Well that is something I would consider doing. I am in the process of getting my letter of intent (LOI) in a few different jurisdictions to launch our field trials. If you could arange something I would'nt mind flying out and meeting with your people to see if we cant get something set up out there also.
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DrEntropy
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May 31st, 2010 at 1:49:09 PM permalink
I tried the demo, the family pot idea is a good one. The house edge on the base bet is too high for my taste though.. Otherwise it seems like fun.
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dwheatley
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June 1st, 2010 at 12:51:11 PM permalink
You need to introduce an order to player actions. Players need to play in order, like in a blackjack tournament. Preferably, this would rotate every hand.
Why? If I have a borderline hand and lots of people are folding, I will play to try and improve my hand and go for family pot. Otherwise, if lots of people are playing, I'll fold a borderline hand
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mrsuit31
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June 1st, 2010 at 5:17:19 PM permalink
This is something that we have contimplated before, you arent the first person to mention this. Although the ultimate conclusion was that since players typically will play to optimize their strategy versus the house this wasnt something that needed to be addressed. Although we could incorporate a display similar to that on a pai gow poker table that shows the position that has to act first each hand.
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