UCivan
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July 24th, 2014 at 2:05:58 PM permalink
I noticed High Card Flush was removed at Four Queens, downtown Las Vegas last weekend. One dealer said it did not do well. However, the table at Binion's, just across street from 4-Queens, was still open and did very well every time I walked by. Wonder why? any thoughts? Are players tired of it already?
pokerface
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July 24th, 2014 at 2:40:53 PM permalink
soon enough it will be removed from all casinos
winning streaks come and go, losing streak never ends.
UCivan
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July 24th, 2014 at 3:01:44 PM permalink
Quote: pokerface

soon enough it will be removed from all casinos

Why is that, do U mind sharing your thoughts?
pokerface
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July 24th, 2014 at 3:18:00 PM permalink
1. during my visit (Strip), most, if not all ,HCF tables are empty.
This means players don't like it
2. I played at 3 or 4 sessions at different casinos, mostly just myself.
each time I lost all my buy in (a few hundred each), and I always bet the minimum,i.e., $5.
So I understand why other players don't like it.

Even all players lost their buy-ins, I still don't think the casinos make enough money
to cover the dealer' salary because most of the time the dealer just stands there idle.

A game neither the casinos nor the players like, how longer can it exist?
winning streaks come and go, losing streak never ends.
UCivan
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July 24th, 2014 at 3:32:26 PM permalink
Thanks. I was wondering why players played at Binion's, but not 4-Queens. The players were all look like tourists, non-locals. The only difference was at Binion's, the dealers were young, chic, and in their hot 20's.
Paradigm
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July 24th, 2014 at 5:33:21 PM permalink
I would disagree that the game is going to be gone and think Galaxy actually has a pretty good game on its hands.

The game is simple.....maybe too simple, like 3CP, but the added feature of 7 cards vs. 3 cards and a side bet that can pay 8000-1 give it enough IMHO.

The play is pretty good in that players fold about a third of hands and call/raise 2/3 of the time.

Hit rate sits just under 45%, in the zone where you want it to be, and you have multi unit pays (e.g. Ante & Raise bets winning) on 28% of hands. Action seems good.

The only complaint I have is with the side bets. The HE on the Straight Flush bet should pay 8-1 on the 3CSF to bring that HE down into the high 6%'s.....13%+ is too high in my opinion and burns out the players bankroll. Also I would let this bet be a $1 min and I believe most operators make it and the Flush Side bet a table minimum proposition (normally $5) and that eats the bankroll too quickly.

Time will tell and I am sure Dan can chime in on the success so far.....to the extent he can before earnings release for Galaxy on 9/8.
UCivan
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July 24th, 2014 at 5:48:47 PM permalink
I think it's a good game too. When I was watching, I saw some players hit the "Straight Flush bonus" - a player may have 4 card of the same suit (flush) and wins 3 card straight flush. This feature is innovative. Again, I don't know why Binion's is doing well and not 4-Queens. They are neighbors on Fremont Street.

Talking about earnings, GLXZ is about 0.35 now. A buy!!!
Paradigm
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July 24th, 2014 at 6:03:43 PM permalink
Need a separate thread on GLXZ stock, but the Ask hasn't dropped below $0.40 for a while.
mcallister3200
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July 24th, 2014 at 6:12:14 PM permalink
Quote: UCivan

Thanks. I was wondering why players played at Binion's, but not 4-Queens. The players were all look like tourists, non-locals. The only difference was at Binion's, the dealers were young, chic, and in their hot 20's.

20's yes, hot? That's a pretty low standard, them and lvc have the bottom of the party pit dealer crop.
Zcore13
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July 25th, 2014 at 1:41:04 PM permalink
I don't think High Card Flush is going anywhere. Sure, in a rare casino it won't fit in with the customer base or the competition next door will take all the action with better dealers, atmosphere or paytables, but it's a really good game.

Non experienced table games players can learn it in less than a minute. There is a pretty good chance someone is going to hit a good hand if you play with a few people at the table for a short time. And a lot of times the amount lost on a hand is minimal due to beating the dealer but losing the side bets or losing to the dealer but getting a 4 card flush or 3 card straight flush on the hand.

I changed our paytables to allow for longer play for the customers dollar. I made the 4 card flush 2-1 and the 3 card straight flush 8-1 and took some away from the top end. Obviously the low end payments happen WAY more than the jackpot. I don't like killing the regulars and having people drop $200 in 30 minutes. The side bets start at $1 as well.


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I am an employee of a Casino. Former Table Games Director,, current Pit Supervisor. All the personal opinions I post are my own and do not represent the opinions of the Casino or Tribe that I work for.

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