scottndindy
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May 21st, 2014 at 5:56:08 PM permalink
Is there any rule against a cheat sheet such as JB's strategy when playing tiles? I would imagine this would be similar to playing BJ with a strategy card. Anybody been told they couldn't use one or regularly use one? Obviously it would have to be printed and not on an electronic device.
ChesterDog
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May 21st, 2014 at 5:59:34 PM permalink
I used a cheat sheet with JB's strategy in Atlantic City, and the pit people didn't mind at all.
AxiomOfChoice
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May 21st, 2014 at 6:11:29 PM permalink
I have never had a problem using a cheat sheet at any casino game.

I want to print a card that says "Always bet on black" and go play roulette with it...
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May 21st, 2014 at 6:54:25 PM permalink
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I have never had a problem using a cheat sheet at any casino game.

I want to print a card that says "Always bet on black" and go play roulette with it...



Queue Wesley Snipes in Passanger 57....what a bad actor and an even worse tax payer apparently :)
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May 21st, 2014 at 8:01:54 PM permalink
Yeah, you can use it.

The pit boss might want to look at it, but that's primarily out of curiosity than anything else.

You might have to keep it off the table.
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May 21st, 2014 at 9:15:02 PM permalink
Quote: scottndindy

Is there any rule against a cheat sheet such as JB's strategy when playing tiles? I would imagine this would be similar to playing BJ with a strategy card. Anybody been told they couldn't use one or regularly use one? Obviously it would have to be printed and not on an electronic device.



charliepatrick has developed an excellent, easy to consult one that is readable at wallet-size. You might PM him and ask for it.
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charliepatrick
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May 28th, 2014 at 4:54:19 PM permalink
The one below is based on info at wizard's site and is a combination of optimal strategy for pairs together with an estimate of what to do with various point totals. It does not cover strengthening, "well-known" exceptions (most of which I don't know!) or any analysis of situations where it gives bad advice. It is work in progress - I am grateful for the information and pictures from the wizard's site together with the method to create the underlying HTML page. Just in case there's a lawyer out there, I offer no guarantee of its applicability, correctness or anything else!

I have had no problem using it in London and found the most useful situations are where you have a Teen or Day and don't make a Hi9 or better. However there have been cases (I had the same hand three times one evening) where using it over house-way cost me money - but that's life.
BaddAnnie
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June 13th, 2014 at 3:49:10 PM permalink
Your cheat sheet is very cool! I'm having difficulty interpreting the teen and day section, though. Can you offer me any advice?
Lemieux66
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June 13th, 2014 at 6:01:34 PM permalink
Quote: Tomspur

Queue Wesley Snipes in Passanger 57....what a bad actor and an even worse tax payer apparently :)



Yet, black did indeed win there.
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charliepatrick
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June 14th, 2014 at 2:03:16 AM permalink
Quote: BaddAnnie

Your cheat sheet is very cool! I'm having difficulty interpreting the teen and day section, though. Can you offer me any advice?

Thanks - If you have a Teen and Day you have three choices.
(i) to play them together (ii) to put the Teen in the Low Hand (iii) to put the Teen in the High Hand.
The first row shows the combination of tiles where you play them together - when you have certain 10's or 11 with certain other tiles. I use the mathematical 11 AND { w x y z } to mean you need to have an 11 and one of w x y or z; in this case z is actually any 4 tile.
The second row shows the exceptions when to put the Teen in the Low Hand; otherwise put the Teen in the High Hand.

This information also can be seen at http://wizardofodds.com/games/pai-gow-tiles/strategy/optimal/not-banking/

PS I've noticed a typo as there's isn't a "Hi 11" just an "11"!

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