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November 28th, 2013 at 12:12:43 AM permalink
Have lurked for a while now, finally signed up as I had a question to ask :)

There's a side bet available in a few casinos in London (and other places I'd imagine, but I only have experience of London) for Baccarat - the '3 giving 8' bet. I've tried to find reference to it somewhere on here, but haven't had any luck - apologies in advance if I haven't dug deep enough!

Anyway, the bet! If the bank has a total of 3 after the initial two cards, and the player has 5 or less, according to the tableau the player draws a card. If this card is an 8, the bank doesn't draw again, and the 3 giving 8 bet wins. It pays 200 to 1.

I've seen a few different edge percentages quoted in different clubs, would be cool to find out a more definitive one.
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November 28th, 2013 at 12:56:25 AM permalink
? from what you are describing, these are the normal card drawing rules, so why would any casino pay a bonus?

Sounds like you are mistaking this for the "super égalité" bet, égalité on 3 paying 200-1, which seems a bit high, usually the 200-1 payout is reserved for a égalité on zero.

https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gambling/tables/14406-super-egalite-as-offered-in-the-uk/#post252840
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November 28th, 2013 at 8:23:32 AM permalink
Quote: obbles

Have lurked for a while now, finally signed up as I had a question to ask :)

There's a side bet available in a few casinos in London (and other places I'd imagine, but I only have experience of London) for Baccarat - the '3 giving 8' bet. I've tried to find reference to it somewhere on here, but haven't had any luck - apologies in advance if I haven't dug deep enough!

Anyway, the bet! If the bank has a total of 3 after the initial two cards, and the player has 5 or less, according to the tableau the player draws a card. If this card is an 8, the bank doesn't draw again, and the 3 giving 8 bet wins. It pays 200 to 1.

I've seen a few different edge percentages quoted in different clubs, would be cool to find out a more definitive one.


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November 28th, 2013 at 10:11:44 AM permalink
Quote: obbles

Have lurked for a while now, finally signed up as I had a question to ask :)

There's a side bet available in a few casinos in London (and other places I'd imagine, but I only have experience of London) for Baccarat - the '3 giving 8' bet. I've tried to find reference to it somewhere on here, but haven't had any luck - apologies in advance if I haven't dug deep enough!

Anyway, the bet! If the bank has a total of 3 after the initial two cards, and the player has 5 or less, according to the tableau the player draws a card. If this card is an 8, the bank doesn't draw again, and the 3 giving 8 bet wins. It pays 200 to 1.

I've seen a few different edge percentages quoted in different clubs, would be cool to find out a more definitive one.


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obbles
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November 28th, 2013 at 10:23:36 AM permalink
Awesome stuff, thanks for the link - should have delved deeper into google I guess :)

I'll go back to my lurkery now hehe
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November 29th, 2013 at 12:40:13 AM permalink
House Edge = 8.6823%.
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November 29th, 2013 at 7:54:36 PM permalink
So a side bet with a single event pay table that hits every 219 hands? There is no way that can be commercially viable.....who is making this wager on a regular basis?
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November 29th, 2013 at 9:47:18 PM permalink
This has got to be one of the s2pidest side bets I've seen yet.
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November 29th, 2013 at 11:39:13 PM permalink
Was reminded of this thread while playing yesterday. Player pulling an 8 against a Banker three, happened roughly about twice or three times max in 10 or more shoes I played, ultimate sucker bet.
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December 4th, 2013 at 11:19:56 PM permalink
It is a pretty moronic bet :)

I think the main reason people like to play it is that you can get a double hit if egalite 3 & the 3g8 come in on the same hand (Bank has 3, player has 5, player's card is an 8)

Doesn't make it any less of a mugs game, tho.

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December 5th, 2013 at 3:45:26 AM permalink
Of the multitude of shoes played today, it happened twice in the same shoe close to each other, still a massive sucker bet though.
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December 6th, 2013 at 3:50:12 PM permalink
Quote: Paradigm

...side bet...hits every 219 hands...who is making this wager...

I've seen this bet and there's another on Blackjack called "Top 3" that pays on Trips, Straight Flush, of Suited Trips ( http://www.ukcasinotablegames.info/blackjacktop3.html ) . It seems as if people like the high payout possibilities, usually as a get out of jail bet at the end of a losing run, but some play it all the time. What seemed strange, I thought only the London casinos could take the hit; but quite a few provincial ones have the Blackjack bet, albeit with a £10 or £25 maximum. The 3g8 bet isn't that common as fewer places in the UK play Punto Banco these days - and most I've seen prefer some form of the egalite bets.
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February 17th, 2014 at 12:28:26 PM permalink
At the Golden Nugget in London (no apparent connection to the one in Vegas) they pay 180 on the 3 giving 8 bet. At those odds I get a house edge of 17.77% (ouch!).

At 200 to 1 I get a house edge of 8.68%.
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February 18th, 2014 at 10:03:57 AM permalink
This thread reminds me of a fun story my coworker and I recall often.

Even rarer than the Three Giving Eight is a TIE on a Three Giving Eight. Player 5 hits for the 8 to tie the game at 3.

Also rare in Baccarat is generous tipping. So when the dealer hits a $5 toke on tie in a Three Giving Eight scenario, that doesn't suck. :)
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