Super Egalite as offered in the UK
In a nut shell you have to predict the score of a Tie, while that doesn't sound easy, this Baccarat side bet offers the biggest return of any casino game at 160-1 for a Tie on zero. Casinos that offer this side bet also have to change the normal Tie odds to 9-1.
Basic Outline Rules / How to Play
‘Super Pay Egalite’ is an additional optional wager in the basic game of Punto Banco, the rules of which can be found on this website.
Players do not need to place a standard wager on either the Player, the Banker or Egalite, in order to place a “Super Pay Egalite” side wager. They may place wagers on more than one “Super Pay Egalite” betting position if they wish to do so.
The wager is that the two hands will be of an equal score, (i.e. an Egalite) but will be in a range of specific scores. The wager will win if any of the specific scores in the selected range is the outcome of the tied hand.
If the score is not an Egalite, all wagers on Super Pay Egalite will lose.
If the score is an Egalite, all Super Pay Egalite wagers on the specific range of numbers that includes the winning score will win & be paid odds. All Super Pay Egalite wagers on a range of numbers that does not include the winning score will lose and be surrendered to the bank.
The range of numbers and usual odds payable are:-
Egalite Score Odds
Zero.................160 to 1
1,2 or 3.............70 to 1
4 or 5................60 to 1
6 or 7............... 22 to 1
8 or 9................40 to 1
£4k payout for a pony "£25" on a successful zero Tie wager!
House Edge details
Egalite Score Odds
Zero................6.65%
1,2 or 3..........10.86%
4 or 5..............7.28%
6 or 7..............8.94%
8 or 9............. 9.75%
Other than card tracking, I was wondering if their is a way to exploit this, something along the lines of take all the above "super egalite" options and place a wager of double that amount on the Banco for an entire shoe.
Tie less shoes are indeed a rare breed but can happen, Punto dominated shoes are not so rare.
The majority of UK games comprise of six decks.
Quote: egaliteIncidentally, in the classy Palm Beach London you can put £100 on "the Super Egalite", so I have been informed, £100 x 160-1, mind boggling.
Quote: GBVCareful here, they are one of a very few places to bar me for counting baccarat.
Quote: egaliteI'm also not allowed in the place.
LOL. Not only being banned in various online forums such as the WoV but 86'd in casinos as well. Now Palm Beach London is a Genting casino, this means egalite is banned in all Genting establishments around the world! Not for being a good player I have heard but being a disruption and disrespectful towards casino employees.
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Other than card tracking, I was wondering if their is a way to exploit this, something along the lines of take all the above "super egalite" options and place a wager of double that amount on the Banco for an entire shoe.
Thanks for posting the details on this interesting bet.
Any combination of negative expectation bets yields an expected loss.
Do you know how many cards they cut off? Could you also describe the shuffle?
Getting back on track, before the idiotic intrusion. They wash the cards, then rifle 3 decks into each other once. There are no burn cards, the cut card is usually placed 12 cards in. So for a six deck game approx 300 cards will be dealt.Quote: GBVThanks for posting the details on this interesting bet.
Any combination of negative expectation bets yields an expected loss.
Do you know how many cards they cut off? Could you also describe the shuffle?
Incidentally the £25 limit is applicable to where I play, in other cities such as London you can bet much much higher on this side bet, not bad for 160-1 odds.
Quote: DMSCRNo wonder your board is bleeding members and seeing through your fluff. If there is a solution to exploit this wager who would be dumb enough to tell anyone especially a mooching parasite like yourself?
Given that you have been playing for so long as you have always proudly proclaim, don't you know these high paying sucker bets should be always avoided? Also a total waste of time that drags the table. The smart consistently profitable players (not blind greedy gamblers like yourself) only focus on either wagering on Player or Banker only. Duh.
So what else you have other than stalking people online with your multiple usernames and then leaving violent messages on their voice mails?
Stop trying to generate all this garbage in the hopes of trying to attract people into joining your bullshit forums. If only baccarat is as predictable as your bullshit, many more folks can make a living out of this. LOL.
Now stop the begging.
Personal Insult, One Week.
Quote: egaliteOther than card tracking, I was wondering if their is a way to exploit this, something along the lines of take all the above "super egalite" options and place a wager of double that amount on the Banco for an entire shoe.
To be blunt, you're not going to find "something like" that for any game, ever. You're going to have to count cards somehow, although I can't say how; if you're not somehow subverting the assumptions under which the game is offered, you'll never have the edge.
Although it wouldn't surprise me if a simple count of tens could give you the edge on this, or if an even/odd count could give you the edge much faster than with the traditional tie bet.
Putting aside trying to crack this via some progression, even though you can have over 450+ stabs at it (I stopped at 450, because it wasn't feasible due to the cost involved).Quote: 24BingoTo be blunt, you're not going to find "something like" that for any game, ever. You're going to have to count cards somehow, although I can't say how; if you're not somehow subverting the assumptions under which the game is offered, you'll never have the edge.
Although it wouldn't surprise me if a simple count of tens could give you the edge on this, or if an even/odd count could give you the edge much faster than with the traditional tie bet.
Often you can get a Tie on the score of Baccara (zero), without 6 x tens involved. So while tracking 10 cards may help, you won't capture all the zero Ties. I'm just back from the casino and recorded the Tie scores, in shoe #5 their was a zero-zero tie, but that was the 2nd hand of the shoe.
In shoe #2 there was a Tie 3 hands from the end with a score of 7 (so counting tens I doubt would have helped).
Shoe #3, the final hand was a Tie on 6
Shoe #4, the final hand was a Tie on 4
Shoe #5, 8 hands from the end a tie on 7
Shoe #6, 4 hands from the end, Tie on 7
Shoe #8, 3 hands from the end, tie on 4
IMO, only tracking 10's alone, won't cut it.
Incidentally, in the classy Palm Beach London you can put £100 on "the Super Egalite", so I have been informed, £100 x 160-1, mind boggling.
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Incidentally, in the classy Palm Beach London you can put £100 on "the Super Egalite", so I have been informed, £100 x 160-1, mind boggling.
Careful here, they are one of a very few places to bar me for counting baccarat.
