How to extend Roullete play time?
May 21st, 2013 at 8:38:27 PM
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I'm fully aware that it's impossible to "beat the house" on Roulette (or any other casino game).
What I'm looking for is a "conservative" system (one that would allow me to play longer with a given budget).
Any ideas? Should I just try to cover most of the numbers? (ex.: cover 90% of the numbers, to win a small amount 90% of the time, and lose everything 10% of the time? :P)
Thanks!
What I'm looking for is a "conservative" system (one that would allow me to play longer with a given budget).
Any ideas? Should I just try to cover most of the numbers? (ex.: cover 90% of the numbers, to win a small amount 90% of the time, and lose everything 10% of the time? :P)
Thanks!
May 21st, 2013 at 8:47:00 PM
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Quote: ctsaI'm fully aware that it's impossible to "beat the house" on Roulette (or any other casino game).
What I'm looking for is a "conservative" system (one that would allow me to play longer with a given budget).
Any ideas? Should I just try to cover most of the numbers? (ex.: cover 90% of the numbers, to win a small amount 90% of the time, and lose everything 10% of the time? :P)
Thanks!
Bet anywhere you like, there are no 'better bets'
in roulette, the house edge is equal on all of them.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
May 21st, 2013 at 8:51:57 PM
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why not bet the minimum each on odd and red? then you only lose on an even black number or zero.
May 21st, 2013 at 9:18:26 PM
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Pure opposite betting will make you look silly, but if that really is your goal, what I'd say is rather than opposite betting or covering a lot of numbers is to make a few unrelated bets - maybe half on black and half on even. Or if they won't let you do that with the minimum, maybe mix it up with six corners, three splits, and a single number (swap a corner and a split for two streets, if desired). You'll "win" over five out of six spins (most of them losing a chip) and that one single number will give you the appearance of a gambler.
The trick to poker is learning not to beat yourself up for your mistakes too much, and certainly not too little, but just the right amount.
May 21st, 2013 at 9:33:34 PM
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If all you want to do is play longer, bet red or black,
and odd or even at the same time. Red/odd covers
26 numbers, for instance, or black/even covers 28.
In 100 spins you'll break even 50 times, win 25 and
lose 25. Over the long run of course. 75 times breaking
even or winning makes your money last, though.
and odd or even at the same time. Red/odd covers
26 numbers, for instance, or black/even covers 28.
In 100 spins you'll break even 50 times, win 25 and
lose 25. Over the long run of course. 75 times breaking
even or winning makes your money last, though.
"It's not called gambling if the math is on your side."
May 22nd, 2013 at 2:04:02 AM
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Quote: ctsaI'm fully aware that it's impossible to "beat the house" on Roulette (or any other casino game).
What I'm looking for is a "conservative" system (one that would allow me to play longer with a given budget).
Any ideas? Should I just try to cover most of the numbers? (ex.: cover 90% of the numbers, to win a small amount 90% of the time, and lose everything 10% of the time? :P)Thanks!
Play slowly?
Play at a crowded table?
Play for lower stakes such as at these small casinos in " Hendertucky " as some people call Henderson, Nevada. Ain't nothing gonna help your Time At Table better than a 25 cent game with one dollar minimums.
All of my above suggestions are designed to let you play your own system, whatever it may be, rather than adopt someone else's betting system solely to extend Time At Table.
May 22nd, 2013 at 2:41:39 AM
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I don't recommend covering a majority of numbers, because I tried it once for the same reason your saying. I played five double streets for a buck each. Thirty numbers total. He kept hitting what I wasn't on. Only lasted about 20 spins. I'd rather do five corners for a buck each. Still a lot though. Maybe just pick one of each of the even money bets. Red, even, 1-18 for instance.
May 22nd, 2013 at 3:27:01 AM
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I first started out not knowing anything about the game but figured out Red and Black bets and then after a few minutes I added a Row Bet.Quote: ewjones080Maybe just pick one of each of the even money bets. Red, even, 1-18 for instance.
I thought getting 1:1 and 2:1 was pretty good and I had no idea it was a 5.25 percent house edge that I was bucking.
Didn't know how to bet, didn't know how to tip. That introductory school came in handy as did the pamphlet they sold in the gift shop. I kept my "Diploma" despite one of the dealers having pantomimed a certain personal hygiene activity which indicated what he thought of my Diploma's value.
May 22nd, 2013 at 6:50:47 AM
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Duplicate thread. See:
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gambling/betting-systems/14033-how-to-extend-roullete-play-time/
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gambling/betting-systems/14033-how-to-extend-roullete-play-time/
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May 22nd, 2013 at 6:58:04 AM
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I agree with EB's advice. Red or Black + Odd / Even. It's boring, but your money will last longer. I'd have fun and bet something in the middle (a street or a corner) and see what happens. I like variance.
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May 22nd, 2013 at 7:58:47 AM
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Time at Table is a legitimate goal for some. Its a question of risks and rewards and some people feel if they trek to a casino they want to do more than put their entire bankroll on one spin of the wheel ... they want to last. Smaller bets, wiser bets, different house edge games, hedging strategies... all can help increase time at table. For some variety is important and they don't want to grind out some basic strategy.
May 22nd, 2013 at 8:13:51 AM
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Quote: EvenBobBet anywhere you like, there are no 'better bets'
in roulette, the house edge is equal on all of them.
True, but the variance is different for each bet. If the net goal is TIME rather than EXPECTED VALUE, choosing a low variance bet is better than a high variance bet.
The Evens bet is 'better' than the single number if the aim is to spend on average longer at the table.
"Then you can admire the real gambler, who has neither eaten, slept, thought nor lived, he has so smarted under the scourge of his martingale, so suffered on the rack of his desire for a coup at trente-et-quarante" - Honore de Balzac, 1829
May 22nd, 2013 at 8:44:46 AM
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Precisely. Despite the utter joy of simply happening to hit a number Straight Up at a 35 to 1 payout, if the goal is Time at Table then the way to counter a 5.25 percent house edge is to make low variance bets and just to Red/Black or Odd/Even or the like all night long.Quote: thecesspitTrue, but the variance is different for each bet. If the net goal is TIME rather than EXPECTED VALUE, choosing a low variance bet is better than a high variance bet.
The Evens bet is 'better' than the single number if the aim is to spend on average longer at the table.
If 5.25 percent is viewed as the PRICE of buying the Gambling then its a Price that the gambler pays but can allocate his funds toward Financial Reward (Straight up bet at 35:1) versus Time at Table (1:1 payout bet such as Red/Black). Boredom, fatigue, alcohol desires, etc. all count as to how the players choose what they prefer.
May 22nd, 2013 at 4:01:26 PM
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The way I see it, if the goal is a good gamble, then you're getting the most bang for your buck betting a single number - in terms of SD/EV, better than a lot of even money games. (216 exactly for single-zero, roughly 109 for double-zero, vs. about 88 for banker and 77 for player.) But if your goal is to remain at the table, hedge like there's no today - but at least put a buck on a single number, so that luck isn't just there to screw you.
The trick to poker is learning not to beat yourself up for your mistakes too much, and certainly not too little, but just the right amount.
