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Beethoven9th
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October 24th, 2013 at 4:48:05 PM permalink
Quote: egalite

the classic for me is when he asked members of GG to post results and he was going to tell them what came next. I literally did fall out of my chair reading that.


Boy, I've really missed out on all of the GR8 One's whoppers over the past 7 years. One moment he's asked to write a book on baccarat, the next moment he's Carnac the Magnificent...LOL! I swear, this guy never ceases to amaze me. *chuckle*
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EvenBob
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October 24th, 2013 at 4:48:18 PM permalink
Quote: egalite

Suffice to say it's roots lie with the old multi-bank Gracia / HP Johnson progression methods and Victors VLS Labochere threads on the defunct VIP Lounge forum.



Don't you just use multiple lines in the Labby,
like

1 1 1 1 1
2 2 2 2 2
1 1 1 1 1

This keeps it from getting volitile.
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AxelWolf
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October 24th, 2013 at 6:31:27 PM permalink
Quote: egalite

the classic for me is when he asked members of GG to post results and he was going to tell them what came next. I literally did fall out of my chair reading that.
It was available. I think those that got to read it couldn't get their head around it. Most simply want after you lose a bet you bet x, if you lose again bet y and if you lose again bet z, they need something written in stone. My approach is not that clear cut, it is more of a concept, a concept of clearing an initial goal target safely in your own time. Unlike a lot of negative progressions out there, this has a lot of scope for the player to make judgement calls, nothing is defined or set in concrete. A few friends I have shown it to and given 1 on 1 (limited, trying to avoid obvious coaching at the tables) table tuition like it a lot.

I don't want to post in-depth details on any forum, other than I'm running two sets of pre-defined cancellations strings, the difference between the strings is a factor of 10 ($10 & $100), at the $50 table, ($50 & $500) at the VIP table it is a factor or 5 ($100 & $500). Having been around the blocks a bit, I know we can not predict jacksh1t in this game. Personally I don't subscribe to flat betting, or betting positively. So I designed a staking plan that if I were to sit at a table and due to my predictive skills lose say the first 8 bets I place, I am not sent to the wall nor my bankroll put under any pressure. Even horrendous loss strings later in the piece should not damage your bankroll if you have the fortitude to implement any of the many defensive moves to protect your cash which is always the number priority.

Does the concept work against a 50-50 guessing game were there is no edge in determining which side is going to win, hmmmm hand on heart, while it has gotten rocky at times, it is fairly robust and I have survived each time, now on my 19th winning session. The problem is I could clone myself 5 times and play the same shoe and end up with each clone ending up with 5 different outcomes. It is difficult to explain in print even if I choose to do so, if you travel to me and I would be willing to explain and demonstrate it in action. Suffice to say it's roots lie with the old multi-bank Gracia / HP Johnson progression methods and Victors VLS Labochere threads on the defunct VIP Lounge forum.

Sounds like you use a martingale system, but stop at 8 or something, then start over? Ya that's never been done before.
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boymimbo
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October 24th, 2013 at 9:20:30 PM permalink
Sigh.

Predictive theories for bacarrat have been proven mathematically false, so it up to the bacarrat believers to show the math that it's mathematically true without some kind of magic involved. What card presentation gives you an edge over the house?

So then you combine with a betting system to state that you can overcome the house edge by varying bets and buying into a trend.

Hell, if you do that, you can apply the same betting methods to Blackjack, Craps, hell, even Roulette to beat the house. And plenty of people on this forum do just that. Then one day, or month, or year, they flame out, and you never hear from them again.

The problem is that over time, your loss will average out to the House Edge x the Average bet, over the long run. A few will win, most will lose.
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Beethoven9th
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October 24th, 2013 at 10:24:05 PM permalink
Quote: boymimbo

...so it up to the bacarrat believers to show the math that it's mathematically true without some kind of magic involved.


That's the whole problem. HE WON'T DO ANY OF THAT.

That's what I was trying to tell you in the "Discussion" thread. This guy has been going on and on for SEVEN years saying the same thing over and over and over. He claims that he can beat baccarat, but when people present him with the math which shows otherwise, he makes ridiculous statements like, "Well YOUR math may say that the casino has the edge, but MY math says that I do!"

Seriously, how the hell are you supposed to argue with a statement as dumb as that? Are we the forum members supposed to sit this guy down and explain to him the validity of mathematics? That would be as absurd as sitting down with a Flat Earther and trying to explain that the earth is round.

And the real kicker is that the guy (who never shuts up, BTW) will claim that he's being "bullied" whenever people get fed up and tell him to take his BS elsewhere. Hell, he even took a 3-year-old GG post and re-posted it here about a month ago. VERBATIM. He even used the same damn title: "The chicken or the egg".

Lame, lame, lame...
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Ibeatyouraces
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October 24th, 2013 at 10:28:57 PM permalink
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DUHHIIIIIIIII HEARD THAT!
Beethoven9th
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October 24th, 2013 at 10:31:56 PM permalink
Sleep is overrated. ;)
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thecesspit
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October 24th, 2013 at 11:37:16 PM permalink
Quote: Beethoven9th

"The chicken or the egg".

Lame, lame, lame...



No, "the chicken OF the egg".
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Beethoven9th
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October 25th, 2013 at 12:16:04 AM permalink
^^^^^^^^^^^^
Touché! :D
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boymimbo
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October 25th, 2013 at 7:57:00 AM permalink
I'm on a work cycle where I am working 7am to 1am off and on, so this site is open while I await for results on what I am trying to recieve. And yeah, I'm behind on sleep.
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