UTH forced to make play bet to be paid on trips bet.

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Quote: Ibeatyouraces

Does anyone know whether it is optional or not for casinos to force players in Ultimate Texas Hold 'Em to make the play bet in order to be paid on winning trips bet? Motorcity casino adopted this in the game a few months back and to me, along with being wrong, it seems like it would add more to the house edge. A good senario would be if you are playing the trips bet and are dealt 2/3 offsuit and the board ran out J/J/J/4/5. You have no flush in this senario and in no way can win the hand but have trip jacks. What is the proper procedure here?

I've seen a couple places do that. I don't think it's allowable on a patented & licensed game like that. I know that Roger has asked for details in the past - hopefully he'll read this thread & correct the situation.

This happened to me while playing a casino in Washington. One week they would pay the Trips without making the Play bet, and the next the made you make the Play bet. I brought in a copy of http://www.wsgc.wa.gov/docs/game_rules/ultimate_texas_hold_em.pdf with me the next time I went there, which states "Note: If the player has three of a kind or better, the Trips bet always wins—even if the player folds". I also sent an email to the gambling commission. I haven't had any problems folding since then.

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Quote: rdw4potus

I've seen a couple places do that. I don't think it's allowable on a patented & licensed game like that. I know that Roger has asked for details in the past - hopefully he'll read this thread & correct the situation.

Unfortunately, I believe the ruling is based on how the individual gaming commissions have the rules written. I got into an hour standoff at Hollywood in Lawrenceburg (it actually lasted an hour, no exaggeration, of me not playing the game, and holding up anybody who may have wanted to join) over this very issue, while gaming sorted out the ruling (I was correct of course!)

Belterra, also in Indiana, has it in their rules that the player MUST make the Play wager in order to win the Trips bet. If it's not explicitly written though, gaming commissions generally side with the player on that one.

" got into an hour standoff at Hollywood in Lawrenceburg (it actually lasted an hour, no exaggeration, of me not playing the game, and holding up anybody who may have wanted to join) over this very issue, while gaming sorted out the ruling "

Well done, you have balls bigger than King Kong !