Invitation to Paigowdan
Quote: DanMahownyMr Paigowdan,
I’m going to Vegas Sept 17-20 for four days of casino malfeasance and subterfuge. I would like you to join me. Together we will play advantage blackjack. I have about a dozen casinos on my rotation where we can spread 20:1, occasionally up to 50:1!
Paigowdan, if card counting is not your thing, there are many additional opportunities for malfeasance that we will undertake. How about some hole carding? I have compiled a list of flashing dealers that we will take advantage of. Using various team-play tactics, and a bit of subterfuge, we will enjoy up to a 60% edge!
I’m not done yet, Dan. How about some more malfeasance such as next carding, sequencing, card sorting, and maybe a bit of shuffle tracking. And working as a team, I would be remiss to leave out the many, many steering opportunities that I have uncovered. Indeed, some subterfuge will be required to take full advantage, but the rewards are well worth it.
C’mon Dan, LET'S DO THIS!
Mr Paigowdan,
I'm leaving for the airport in about an hour.
MALFEASANCE + SUBTERFUGE = CASH!
C'mon Dan, LET"S DO THIS!
involved in. Plus later today Dan will be an instructor at my school on dice settings. But he has asked me to wish you well in you endeavor to level the playing field against all evil casinos.
That is the movie about the Christians taking down the EVIL Casinos......bet Dan wll not be a real "Happy Camper" watching that movie. ha ha ha
I think I will buy copies and use them as Christmas stuffers...ha ha ha
You've crossed the line with that reply.
While none of the WoV regulars would believe those comments, any visitor who doesn't know you or your rather odd sense of humor might believe that you're actually speaking on Dan's behalf.
of anything I stated there. But if Dan feels offended in any manner, I will apologize.
I have arrived at the airport. Long flight ahead, but rest assured, plenty of casino malfeasance is on the agenda for this evening
C'mon Dan, LET"S DO THIS!
Good luck!!
Post your results if you would like.
Quote: MidwestAPDan - Good luck (aka positive variance) this week. May the malfeasance and suberfuge be profitable for you.
Thanks buddy! I will provide periodic updates during the trip.
Quote: bigpete88Dan,
Good luck!!
Post your results if you would like.
Thanks bigpete88! I always welcome good luck (positive variance) when playing advantage blackjack. Some of my other AP activities do not require any luck; if you know what I mean.
Be back later tonight with updates......
Quote: DJTeddyBearBuzz -
You've crossed the line with that reply.
While none of the WoV regulars would believe those comments, any visitor who doesn't know you or your rather odd sense of humor might believe that you're actually speaking on Dan's behalf.
Secret moderator?????
If I get some offer to jump on a table as part of a Blackjack AP team or something, I'll chuckle at the irony. We get the joke.
I just don't AP or count, or do anything to "take shots" at any casino operator or casino house, and this is known. Just how I roll.
When I play, I throw dice or play Pai Gow Poker or Baccarat.
than to ever take me seriously. LOL
Wow. How much do they charge for that?Quote: DanMahownyAirplane WiFi is awesome.
Quote: DJTeddyBearWow. How much do they charge for that?
$5 bucks. Southwest Airlines. Not all planes have it though.
Quote: PaigowdanYou know,
If I get some offer to jump on a table as part of a Blackjack AP team or something, I'll chuckle at the irony. We get the joke.
I just don't AP or count, or do anything to "take shots" at any casino operator or casino house, and this is known. Just how I roll.
When I play, I throw dice or play Pai Gow Poker or Baccarat.
Actually, this whole thread is making me wonder - does one have to bet the count to be considered a counter?
Quote: 24BingoActually, this whole thread is making me wonder - does one have to bet the count to be considered a counter?
I know someone who counts but doesn't have the bankroll to spread more than a couple of units. He claims to break even in shoe games with wonging and index play.
Looking out the airplane window, I see casino malfeasance on the horizon.
Good luck!
Quote: DanMahownyChecked in. Cleaned up. Going to eat a light meal, then hitting the tables.
This should say ..
Checked in, hit the tables, cleaned up...
Keep us posted.
Going back out to do some scouting work (mostly looking for next carding opportunities). Also, I'm going to field test a cut card technique (malfeasance) I've been practicing at home for the past month. I just need to find some dealers that handle the pack in a certain way.
You connect the dots.
The Good-
Found a good next card opportunity at a low limit table. I got as much money in play as I felt I could get away with. After 25 minutes, the dealer left, and so did I. +$350.
The Bad-
Large strip casino- dealer anticipated a 3rd base (civilian) hit, and pulled the next card. I was sitting at first base and was 90% sure it was an Ace. The dealer was pat. I put out a $2,000 bet expecting a first card Ace. It wasn't an Ace (4), and I lost the hand. -$1,820.
The Ugly-
Non AP activity. Beer, craps, and beautiful ladies. I bought in for $300 and lost it all (pass line and 3x,4x,5x odds). Struck out with the ladies too.
Day One: -$1,020
Off to breakfast.....
I was playing heads up with a very fast dealer. And was dealt a 4-card 22. I gave a quick STAND signal and was promptly paid. You'll be amazed how often this works.
Quote: DanMahownyAnybody ever try this?
I was playing heads up with a very fast dealer. And was dealt a 4-card 22. I gave a quick STAND signal and was promptly paid. You'll be amazed how often this works.
It happens often enough especially when starting with a soft hand. Who are we to argue with the "new" math?
Quote: DJTeddyBearYeah, but Dan ain't retiring until December. Those are awfully loosely connected dots . . .
That 3 months is a slow break in period with limited playing time for Dan. Until he become a member of the AP family.
We are not about to let another Donnie Brasco happen.
Quote: DanMahownyAnybody ever try this?
I was playing heads up with a very fast dealer. And was dealt a 4-card 22. I gave a quick STAND signal and was promptly paid. You'll be amazed how often this works.
And you will happily take the money that you know you did NOT legitimately win.
Quote: buzzpaffAnd he will dance all the way to the bank.
I believe it.
I agree that taking a payout on a 22 is not the right thing to do. Still think legit AP is OK though
Quote: sodawaterDealer mistakes are part of the game. The casino still makes money. And mistakes go both ways.... I am 100 percent sure that in all my years of casino gambling, I have missed a time when a dealer made a mistake in the casino's favor and I got shorted. I see no problem at all with taking a payout when the dealer makes a mistake.
Since mistakes go both ways, when I spot mistakes, I have the same problem being overpaid as I do being underpaid: that is, incorrect "wrong' money remains wrong money, and that I know that it is wrong money, and that is NOT what the honest result should be. Taking money you know you shouldn't be getting is just as wrong as allowing yourself to be taken, as it is a "wrong event" - above one own's self-seeking POV.
A dirty result is simply that, and it doesn't matter which direction it occurred, it's unacceptable to the game if honestly known and seen. If I don't allow money to leave me wrongfully by mistake, I don't allow dirty money to come to me wrongfully in known error.
But that's me.
Otherwise, no real heat anywhere else. My sessions are too short.
When I'm performing acts of casino malfeasance, I can play longer because they have no idea what I'm doing.
Quote: DanMahownyWhen I'm performing acts of casino malfeasance, I can play longer because they have no idea what I'm doing.
Often they don't. It's enough to know what you're doing - to stay safe.
Quote: PaigowdanAnd you will happily take the money that you know you did NOT legitimately win.
I never asked anyone to pay me. I just signaled that I did not want another card.
Quote: DanMahownyI never asked anyone to pay me. I just signaled that I did not want another card.
It's not about asking, it's about taking it, accepting it, when knowing......
I went through a Jack-in-the-box drive through a while ago, and paid for a sandwich with a $10, but got change for a $20 via a "dealer" mistake, so to speak. I didn't ask to be wrongfully overpaid, but I knew, so I returned the $10 extra dollars, considering that I didn't earn it or win it.
Quote: sodawaterAlso I will use something that happened on my last trip as illustration.
The player next to me in 3CP had 3-4-5 offsuit for a straight and raised. The dealer flips TTT for trips. Dealer scoops both the players ante and raise and pays him 6 to 1 on the PP. Now, I have played with this player several times, and I know he is experienced in 3CP, experienced enough to "point out wrong money" if for example the dealer paid his A-high when dealer has a pair of twos.
But he didn't KNOW that the ante wager pushes on a losing straight, and neither did the dealer, and neither did the floorman notice, until I pointed it out to them. That's why I feel zero obligation to point out dealer errors in my favor I do notice.
Which is quite different than feeling 100% obligated to simply point out any error that results in wrong money, in any direction.
A dealer or clean player is very much like a referee or baseball umpire's obligation is to point out the actual result of the play, and without regard to having favorites. All plays should be brought to the actual correct result regardless of favorites from "my side," "their side."
Quote: DanMahownyAnybody ever try this?
I was playing heads up with a very fast dealer. And was dealt a 4-card 22. I gave a quick STAND signal and was promptly paid. You'll be amazed how often this works.
...now that seems like the kind of thing that could land you behind bars if they could prove it intentional. (Posting to the Internet that it was seems like a good start.)
Quote: 24Bingo...now that seems like the kind of thing that could land you behind bars if they could prove it intentional. (Posting to the Internet that it was seems like a good start.)
I can picture it now......Civilians in handcuffs escorted from the blackjack table to jail for adding their hands wrong. That's the funniest damn thing I've heard in a long, long time.
Leaving now for the strip casinos. Good night all.
