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100xOdds
100xOdds
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August 30th, 2012 at 7:15:24 PM permalink
Which would you rather play (Banker)?

Baccarat has a 5% commision. HE is 1.06%.
EZ Baccarat is commision free, but if the Banker wins with a 3card 7, then it's a tie. HE is 1.02%

EZ Baccarat has a slightly lower house edge thus my pick.
What's yours?

Also, whats the house edge on EZ Baccarat as Player since he cant lose on a Bankers 3card 7?
Craps is paradise (Pair of dice). Lets hear it for the SpeedCount Mathletes :)
Ibeatyouraces
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August 30th, 2012 at 7:31:03 PM permalink
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WongBo
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August 30th, 2012 at 7:32:53 PM permalink
I am now counting dragon 7 for fun and (a little) profit,
But I prefer midi-bac cause I love squeezing a little drama out of those cards...
In a bet, there is a fool and a thief. - Proverb.
guido111
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August 30th, 2012 at 7:36:57 PM permalink
A past discussion is here
http://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gambling/tables/4130-question-about-baccarat-vs-ez-baccarat/

In SoCal the EZ Bac games can be found easily in a casino but not in the high limit areas.
There must be a reason.

I just like to tell people that play EZBac, my wife included, that the Player bet now has a higher winning probability than the Banker bet.
The Asians hate hearing that one.
100xOdds
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August 30th, 2012 at 7:38:36 PM permalink
Quote: WongBo

I am now counting dragon 7 for fun and (a little) profit,
But I prefer midi-bac cause I love squeezing a little drama out of those cards....

I also agree with ibeatyou...work these dumps for all the comps you can



bet bothsides on which?
bacarat or EZ bacarat?
Craps is paradise (Pair of dice). Lets hear it for the SpeedCount Mathletes :)
Ibeatyouraces
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August 30th, 2012 at 7:41:53 PM permalink
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guido111
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August 30th, 2012 at 7:53:40 PM permalink
Quote: Ibeatyouraces

I first saw this at Horseshoe SI and when I also saw that the player didn't lose to the bank three card 7, there just had to be a way to exploit it.

Do you mean the Player Bet or the player making a Banker bet?

When the Banker bet wins with a 3 card 7 (the Dragon 7) all players that made the Player bets still lose.

I have never seen it where the Player bet also pushes on a Dragon7 unless this is a special variant that certain casinos use.

The house would not have it's edge
guido111
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August 30th, 2012 at 7:55:49 PM permalink
Quote: 100xOdds


Also, whats the house edge on EZ Baccarat as Player since he cant lose on a Bankers 3card 7?


http://wizardofodds.com/games/baccarat/appendix/6/
the Wizard's page missing a table?

EventProbabilityPaysReturn
Banker win0.436118-1-0.436118
Normal tie0.09506900
Banker 3-card 7 win0.022535-1-0.022535
Player win0.44627910.446279
Total1 -0.012374



I hope you do not think a player that makes a Player bet and the winning hand is the Dragon 7, pushes.
(That would give the Player Bet a 1% edge. Not going to happen)
No casino would always push the Player Bet on a Dragon 7
EventProbabilityPaysReturn
Banker win0.436118-1-0.436118
Normal tie0.09506900
Banker 3-card 7 win0.02253500
Player win0.44627910.446279
Total1 0.010161



All Player Bets lose to the Dragon 7, All Banker Bets push.
Ibeatyouraces
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August 30th, 2012 at 7:56:41 PM permalink
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FleaStiff
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August 30th, 2012 at 8:44:10 PM permalink
Quote: 100xOdds

Which would you rather play (Banker)?
EZ Baccarat has a slightly lower house edge thus my pick.


With all the fiddling with lammers and proving up of commissions and commission payments, Baccarat is dealt very much slower, so it is perhaps the preferable game. The ever so slightly lower House Edge of EZ Baccarat applies to very much more money since there is faster dealing and more hands per hour when there are no lammers to handle or explain to neophyte players.

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