So, let's take a look at one point the book makes. It looks at penalties in the NFL. To quote the book:
Quote: ScorecastingFor evidence of offical bias in the NFL, it makes sense to start by considering one obvious component in the control of the men in the striped uniforms: penalties. Home teams receive fewer penalties per game than away teams -- about half a penalty less per game -- and are charged with fewer yards per penalty. Of course, this does not necessarily means officials are biased. Away teams might commit more violations and play more sloppily or more aggressively...
So I looked at the data I have for the NFL for the 2000 to 2010 seasons. Here are the averages per game:
Away penalties: 6.41
Home penalties: 6.03
Away penalty yards: 52.35
Home penalty yards: 49.61
Away yards per penalty: 8.17
Home yards per penalty: 8.23
So, that is a difference of 0.38 penalties per game, 2.74 penalty yards per game, and 0.06 yards per penalty (in favor of the away team).
I think it is hard to make a case based on that alone. As they bring up themselves, maybe it is because away teams are behind more often, and thus playing more aggressively, causing more penalties.
In other parts of the book it argues that referees tend to hide their bias by having calls to the home team's way in crucial situations, and make up for it by having calls to the away's teams way in situations where the outcome of the game is in little doubt.
I'm sure I looked at a different span of time than the author's, but my 11 years shows a smaller effect in number of penalties (0.38 vs. 0.5) and actually more yards per penalty for the home team.
So, my data doesn't exactly corroborate their theory. Just 2.74 extra penalty yards per game does not translate into the extra 2.57 points home teams score on average in the NFL I would say.
I also think the author's play a bit loose with their statistics on the instant-reply challenge, but I won't get into the details. Still, I more or less agree with the author's premise, but I think they are a bit loose with their statistics to make their case, a practice they themselves accuse sportscasters of doing.
Comments?
Quote: RogerKintThe crowd does play a role psychologically.
The authors make the case that in fact, it doesn't. At least in professional sports. As one bit of evidence, they look a free throw percentages. In games the crowd always makes a lot of noise and waves those inflatable batons when the away team shoots, but is still and quiet when the home team does. How does this distraction effect the percentages? It doesn't. There is no significant difference, forgive me if I don't hunt through the books for the specific figures. They also look at field goal success rates in the NFL. Again, no significant difference.
Quote: WizardThe authors make the case that in fact, it doesn't. At least in professional sports. As one bit of evidence, they look a free throw percentages. In games the crowd always makes a lot of noise and waves those inflatable batons when the away team shoots, but is still and quiet when the home team does. How does this distraction effect the percentages? It doesn't. There is no significant difference, forgive me if I don't hunt through the books for the specific figures. They also look at field goal success rates in the NFL. Again, no significant difference.
But crowd noise does have an effect on effectiveness. False starts must go up for visiting offenses in certain stadiums that are known for their crowd noise(Seattle, Kansas City), as the players cannot hear the QB.
There is also the issue, not of penalties, but of other calls (completions, fumble recoveries), and non-calls going more toward the home team. I don't have any stats, but the refs have other ways of influencing the game besides backing up the visitors.
Looking at the figures you have provided, is there any evidence that this affects the outcome of the games? And even if it does, how does this relate to the odds maker's lines in the sportsbook or how could a bettor use this to his advantage?
I believe there was a study done on basketball games that showed that referees were more likely to call more fouls in the second half of the game on the team that the referees called less fouls on in the first half of the game. I did some minor research to see if this gave the bettor an edge, but couldn't not find any positive correlation. I mainly looked at betting the on the team that had more fouls called against them in the first half by betting a second half wager on that team.
Quote: AyecarumbaBut crowd noise does have an effect on effectiveness. False starts must go up for visiting offenses in certain stadiums that are known for their crowd noise(Seattel, Kansas City), as the players cannot hear the QB..
I agree 100%. I'd like to see their numbers off all penalties EXCEPT false starts. Because stadiums put up signs that say "Shhhh..Offense at work" and the like when they have the ball, and encourage a lot of noise when the visitors have the ball. Also, delay of games go up in noisy times, as it takes longer to bark instructions...
This is entirely different than Free Throws; you may be able to concentrate at hit a free throw with extra noise, but if your teammates can't hear what play you are calling, no amount of concentration will make up for their inability to know which route to run.
Plus you will just always play better at home.....for many reasons most of which psychological.....Just the fact that you woke up in you own bed that morning and had breakfast and coffee in your own kitchen....instead of waking up in a unfamiliar hotel room....its had to explain but you just feel much more comfortable playing a home game than a road game......and you DO feed of the crowd especially on the defensive side of the ball....
Quote: vert1276Just the fact that you woke up in you own bed that morning and had breakfast and coffee in your own kitchen....instead of waking up in a unfamiliar hotel room....its had to explain but you just feel much more comfortable playing a home game than a road game.
The book also says this plays an effect. As I recall, it said that when a team plays a road game, but very close to their own homes, that home field advantage almost disappears. For example, in cities with two baseball teams (New York, Chicago, SF/Oak).
Quote: WizardThe book also says this plays an effect. As I recall, it said that when a team plays a road game, but very close to their own homes, that home field advantage almost disappears. For example, in cities with two baseball teams (New York, Chicago, SF/Oak).
Ya I would agree...playing a road game close to home is easier....the worst is if you were from the west coast(as I was) and then having a 10am start on an east cost road game....it like playing at 7AM to you......But like I said before crowd noise is the big reason....not only for penlites...but it is just much more difficult to play offense on the road....the crowd noise means the QB will have a harder time calling audibles and will have to use hand signals...which will restrict what he is able to call.....The lineman calling the protection schemes on the line(normally the center but not always) will have a MUCH harder time making protection call's.....It is MUCH more difficult to run a no huddle offense on the road becasue of of noise.....I could go on and on......Its just a lot harder to play on the road.....
Of course none of this means anything if the road team can jump to an early lead and "take the crowd out of the game" which of course was always our goal.....I didn't really mind road game....offensive lineman kinda like them LOL.....it just means becasue of crowd noise you are going to end up running the ball more....And any offensive lineman would rather have the offense run than pass....:)
Arena familiarity. At my home field, I know every inch of it. Where it's muddy, where it's drier. Whether it's hard and rocky, or soft and supple. Whether a mean cut is going to cause me to slip and fall or dig in and go. I know when we get in the red zone where the baseball field cuts through, that "dirt" is going to be sandy and loose, not like dirt at all. In hockey, I know our boards are "soft". You have to adjust angle and velocity when passing off the boards. I know it's sometimes wet behind the visitors net early in the game and the puck sticks. Our ice feels soft, like you can dig into it, yet Jamestown's feels like skating on marble. I know the puck has a habit of catching an edge and careening to mid ice when you rip it along the boards. All this info is something the visitors don't know, and I know I have a harder time adjusting when playing away, especially on board play. I try to dump it mid ice and the puck rockets off the boards for icing. For me, this is the biggest factor when playing home vs away, knowing your battlefield.
Refs. Does the NFL rotate the crews evenly all over the place? I ask because we don't. The crew stays at that particular arena. So for our guys, I know that Jim Bob's crew is going to call every little thing, while Steve Dave's crew will let me get away with murder. When we go away, I have no idea until it's too late. If the NFL likewise keeps crews in certain areas, and say Jeff Tripplett does a lot of West Coast games, the West Coast teams would conform to his type of calls and may be vulnerable once they move to the land of Ed Hochuli.
Plus, professional or not, they're human. No one could tell me that not once does a cheer or jeer from the crowd influence a decision. I highly doubt it's on the regular, I even suspect it's rare, but I refuse to believe it doesn't happen at all. Even if it's one call in every 50 games or one call in every 5,000 plays, that makes a difference. Maybe the difference that's seen by your numbers.
Quote: FaceRefs. Does the NFL rotate the crews evenly all over the place? I ask because we don't. The crew stays at that particular arena. So for our guys, I know that Jim Bob's crew is going to call every little thing, while Steve Dave's crew will let me get away with murder. When we go away, I have no idea until it's too late. If the NFL likewise keeps crews in certain areas, and say Jeff Tripplett does a lot of West Coast games, the West Coast teams would conform to his type of calls and may be vulnerable once they move to the land of Ed Hochuli.
Yes, the NFL rotates its crews so that each crew will see the same team on aveage only 2 times per season. This is done to keep familiararity out of it. They used to "break" the crews in post-season so you had in theory the "all-stars" from the whole pool, picked in part by the players themselves. I think they killed that a few years back and now just vote crew-for-crew so they get crews used to working together for post-season games.
I put the "bias" towards much of what was talked about. Crowd noise can cause a false-start or delay of game penalty. Not used to the footing can cause pass-interference or holding. Just having the crowd against you might drive an unsportsmanlike conduct. This is all for football, only sport I watch beyond just catching ladies curling if I see it when I am flipping by. Who else thinks Jennifer Jones is cute?
Quote: WizardThe book also says this plays an effect. As I recall, it said that when a team plays a road game, but very close to their own homes, that home field advantage almost disappears. For example, in cities with two baseball teams (New York, Chicago, SF/Oak).
What's their exact study?
I have 313 games where those teams (New York, Chicago, SF/OAK) play each other.
Home Team Won 168 games
Home Team Lost 145 games
Home Winning percentage was 53.7%
That sounds about normal for baseball.
Quote: hhhcccWhat's their exact study?
I have 313 games where those teams (New York, Chicago, SF/OAK) play each other.
Home Team Won 168 games
Home Team Lost 145 games
Home Winning percentage was 53.7%
That sounds about normal for baseball.
I don't think you can compare baseball and football there. In football the field is always the same size. In baseball you have wildly differing sizes. So a team with a deep park at home may go light signing pitching and have better bats since they have 50% of games where the bat is more important.
Quote: boymimboBeautiful study. My only contribution is that the frequency of offensive "false start" penalties would be greater for the visiting teams thanks to the "12th man"(TM) effect. This effect is illustrated quite nicely at Qwest (now CenturyLink) field in Seattle. A game between the Giants and Seahawks in 2005 resulted in 11 false starts, for example. Since 2005, there is an average of 2.36 false starts per game at CenturyLink.
A very valid point. I am surprised the home advantage in the NFL is not larger than it currently is. I mean playing on your turf, sleeping in your own bed the night before, etc! If the refs were homers, why is the difference in penalties so miniscule??
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