pacomartin
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April 14th, 2011 at 7:57:34 PM permalink
British bookmaker to buy two Nevada sports betting companies
William Hill Plc, a bookmaker based in the United Kingdom, will spend about $39 million to acquire two Nevada-based sports betting companies, American Wagering Inc. and Club Cal Neva Satellite Race and Sports Book Division.

The article goes on to say that the Nevada sports book market generated a handle of $2.5 billion in 2010.

The data from the gaming commission says that 193 locations made $151 million with a win percent of 5.47%, which seems like it would be a handle of $2.76 billion. I am not sure how to explain the difference.

I assume that with the new applications for the I-Pod that the sports betting in Nevada has good prospects.
FleaStiff
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April 15th, 2011 at 1:17:34 AM permalink
Quote: pacomartin

I assume that with the new applications for the I-Pod that the sports betting in Nevada has good prospects.

Makes me wonder why a sale now when there is so much recent news about electronic devices and live action gambling during sporting events. Great boom coming... so sell out now?
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April 20th, 2011 at 8:18:22 PM permalink
Hope WillHill has problems getting approved by Gaming. They're a sleazy operation and I don't trust them at all.
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FleaStiff
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April 20th, 2011 at 11:42:37 PM permalink
They don't pay off?
WizardofEngland
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April 21st, 2011 at 12:05:18 AM permalink
Quote: JimMorrison

Hope WillHill has problems getting approved by Gaming. They're a sleazy operation and I don't trust them at all.



Never had an issue, they are one of the most trusted bookmakers in this country. I dare say one of the top three in the UK.
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JimMorrison
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April 21st, 2011 at 1:44:33 AM permalink
Quote: WizardofEngland

Never had an issue, they are one of the most trusted bookmakers in this country. I dare say one of the top three in the UK.



Their online casino and book is very shady. Lots of instances of non-pays or making online players snail mail docs to UK etc. They're rogue in my opinion.
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FleaStiff
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April 21st, 2011 at 3:32:06 AM permalink
Quote: JimMorrison

... or making online players snail mail docs to UK etc.

If there is no need to snail mail a document in order to make a deposit then there is no need to snail mail a document in order to make a withdrawal.

> They're rogue in my opinion.
Would you say Blacklist or Graylist?
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April 21st, 2011 at 3:48:25 AM permalink
Quote: FleaStiff

If there is no need to snail mail a document in order to make a deposit then there is no need to snail mail a document in order to make a withdrawal.

> They're rogue in my opinion.
Would you say Blacklist or Graylist?



That is my argument totally, if you accept my deposit without docs then it's a bunch of bullshit to insist on docs for the cashout. And if you are going to insist on docs etc at least don't say it's for the players security. LOL yeah right.

I'd say graylist since they will pay people, just after a threshold they will make it almost impossible to collect. I know Casinomeister has had problems with them in the past and Gambling Grumbles also.
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April 21st, 2011 at 5:24:51 AM permalink
Quote: FleaStiff

Makes me wonder why a sale now when there is so much recent news about electronic devices and live action gambling during sporting events. Great boom coming... so sell out now?

Apparently, the buyer and seller have differing opinions about the likelihood that those things will come to fruition.
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April 21st, 2011 at 6:16:04 AM permalink
Quote: pacomartin


The article goes on to say that the Nevada sports book market generated a handle of $2.5 billion in 2010.

The data from the gaming commission says that 193 locations made $151 million with a win percent of 5.47%, which seems like it would be a handle of $2.76 billion. I am not sure how to explain the difference.



Maybe pushes or unresolved bets count against the win % without counting against the handle?
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April 21st, 2011 at 6:21:22 AM permalink
Perhaps some find the hurdles too high and never get their money but it seems to mainly just obscenely absurd delaying tactics. So, I guess graylist, but if they have not yet shaped up why is it that they continue to grow? Surely there should be constant pressure on them to speed up the payouts.
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April 21st, 2011 at 1:46:27 PM permalink
Quote: FleaStiff

Perhaps some find the hurdles too high and never get their money but it seems to mainly just obscenely absurd delaying tactics. So, I guess graylist, but if they have not yet shaped up why is it that they continue to grow? Surely there should be constant pressure on them to speed up the payouts.



My understanding is they are well respected as a bookmaker etc. It's their online operations that are the problem. 32Red just successfully sued them over trademark infringements. Perhaps it's time to get rid of the management team online and start fresh before their reputation takes a serious hit.
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April 21st, 2011 at 2:53:46 PM permalink
Quote: pacomartin

The data from the gaming commission says that 193 locations made $151 million with a win percent of 5.47%, which seems like it would be a handle of $2.76 billion. I am not sure how to explain the difference.


You're forgetting the skim.
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April 27th, 2011 at 6:07:06 PM permalink
I have to say, as a UK player, I have never had a problem with William Hills Online service.
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