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October 30th, 2025 at 1:56:52 PM permalink
It’s all about correlated parlays.
Yesavage over K’s
Blue Jays win
Clement hit
Kirk hit
Bichette hit.
Nice boosted parlay yesterday

My favorite one was Nuggets win/Jokic triple double. It was only +150. But Jokic has zero non triple doubles this year and Nuggets were huge favorites. The worry is always Nuggets are so far ahead Jokic sits 4th quarter

Jokic has started with 4 triple doubles. Only Oscar Robertson has ever done that. But no one has ever started with 5. You don’t think if Jokic is an assist short towards the end of his next game they don’t do everything they can to get him that 10th assist?

My other good bet was Randle over points. Whenever Edwards isn’t playing that’s a good bet. He had 22 at halftime!
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October 30th, 2025 at 3:43:00 PM permalink
One big difference is that Oscar had no idea if he was a rebound or assist short of a triple-double. I'm sure he had dozens or more games when he sat out extensive time and ended up one short.
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October 31st, 2025 at 8:11:56 AM permalink
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One big difference is that Oscar had no idea if he was a rebound or assist short of a triple-double. I'm sure he had dozens or more games when he sat out extensive time and ended up one short.
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True. Apparently I missed that Westbrook also started a season with 4 triple doubles. So far this year the tally (not including last night if there were any)
Jokiic. 4
Rest of NBA. 1

And still someone will come up with a reason to deny him the MVP.

My correlated parlays for last night all lost. The one that hurt was Sabres win/ over 6.5 / Dahlin point. Dahlin scored Sabres first goal. Sabres lost 4-3 in OT….
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October 31st, 2025 at 8:56:45 AM permalink
I'd never heard of a double-double or triple-double until the early 1980s, when suddenly it was considered an accomplishment
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October 31st, 2025 at 8:56:55 AM permalink
You can get +175 without a boost on Nuggets/Jokic TD. I’ll be using that as my SGP first two legs to start a 3 leg boosted bet.
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October 31st, 2025 at 9:01:44 AM permalink
I suspect Wilt had a double double in the vast majority of his games, and doubt he is alone.
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October 31st, 2025 at 9:11:05 AM permalink
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I suspect Wilt had a double double in the vast majority of his games, and doubt he is alone.
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It’s the 10 assists added to the easy points/rebounds double double that makes a triple double special for a center. Guards like Nash/Kidd/Young easily get a bunch of points/assists double doubles and rarely get the rebound component.
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October 31st, 2025 at 9:21:57 AM permalink
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I suspect Wilt had a double double in the vast majority of his games, and doubt he is alone.
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It’s the 10 assists added to the easy points/rebounds double double that makes a triple double special for a center. Guards like Nash/Kidd/Young easily get a bunch of points/assists double doubles and rarely get the rebound component.
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A triple-double is genuinely a rare achievement, and the quad-double should be celebrated widely; however, a star center or power forward should routinely achieve ten points and ten rebounds.
A star point guard should get ten points and ten assists if he is earning his paycheck.
A double double is akin to a quality start in baseball.
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November 1st, 2025 at 6:08:23 AM permalink
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12:00 game

Houston - 13 over WVU

don't like giving up this many points but WVU has gotten crushed several times

Houston is ranked 22 nationally

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November 1st, 2025 at 3:15:23 PM permalink
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12:00 game

Houston - 13 over WVU

don't like giving up this many points but WVU has gotten crushed several times

Houston is ranked 22 nationally

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bounce back time looks like scottfox jr had something to say about that. Wvu 45-35 fox had 3 touchdowns
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November 7th, 2025 at 5:24:46 AM permalink
Wow Denver won last night and are now 8-2. We will see if the other horse team in the NFL can keep up with them when they play the falcons in Berlin Sunday
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November 7th, 2025 at 7:11:28 AM permalink
Worst NFL game in 50 years.
The last time the NFL had both teams have more penalties than first downs was fifty years ago. The only other time this has happened was in 1976, when two winless expansion teams (Seattle and Tampa Bay) met for the first time.
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November 7th, 2025 at 4:16:25 PM permalink
Anyone interested in the BYU/Texas Tech game?

#7 in the country BYU is getting 10.5 against #8 Texas Tech. The Red Raiders defensive pass rush is incredible but I can't pass up 10.5 points for a team I expect to throw a lot of quick short passes. I also have to root for BYU because their quarterback wears number 47.
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November 7th, 2025 at 5:05:57 PM permalink
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Anyone interested in the BYU/Texas Tech game?

#7 in the country BYU is getting 10.5 against #8 Texas Tech. The Red Raiders defensive pass rush is incredible but I can't pass up 10.5 points for a team I expect to throw a lot of quick short passes. I also have to root for BYU because their quarterback wears number 47.
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Some betting analyst gave this…. Top 10 teams that are over 10 point underdogs to lower ranked teams tend to be crushed, losing on average by 20 + points. Making Texas Tech his bet of the century. Until next week at least.
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November 8th, 2025 at 4:11:06 AM permalink
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Florida Atlantic - 3.5 over Tulsa

Tulsa is last, 0-5 in its' Conference - FAU is 2-3 in the same Conference
FAU is 2-1 at home, Tulsa is 1-3 away
last year Tulsa was favored at home and FAU won by 47
FAU was a 3.5 fave over Florida A&M at home in September and beat them by 42

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November 8th, 2025 at 8:35:56 AM permalink
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Anyone interested in the BYU/Texas Tech game?

#7 in the country BYU is getting 10.5 against #8 Texas Tech. The Red Raiders defensive pass rush is incredible but I can't pass up 10.5 points for a team I expect to throw a lot of quick short passes. I also have to root for BYU because their quarterback wears number 47.
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Some betting analyst gave this…. Top 10 teams that are over 10 point underdogs to lower ranked teams tend to be crushed, losing on average by 20 + points. Making Texas Tech his bet of the century. Until next week at least.
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Everybody seems to be on his side. The line moved from 10.5 to 13.5 (a huge move). I guess I have to bet more at 13.5.
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November 8th, 2025 at 12:29:14 PM permalink
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Anyone interested in the BYU/Texas Tech game?

#7 in the country BYU is getting 10.5 against #8 Texas Tech. The Red Raiders defensive pass rush is incredible but I can't pass up 10.5 points for a team I expect to throw a lot of quick short passes. I also have to root for BYU because their quarterback wears number 47.
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Some betting analyst gave this…. Top 10 teams that are over 10 point underdogs to lower ranked teams tend to be crushed, losing on average by 20 + points. Making Texas Tech his bet of the century. Until next week at least.
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Everybody seems to be on his side. The line moved from 10.5 to 13.5 (a huge move). I guess I have to bet more at 13.5.
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I hope you didn’t. Game not over but BYU was a paper lion.

Last night was a great example of the difficulty in betting player props. Jokic was on pace for another easy triple double but he was so good they didn’t need him for his usual minutes. Sat for the end of the 4th quarter and ended with 9 assists and 9 rebounds. Closer game he makes his usual triple double.
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November 8th, 2025 at 12:59:04 PM permalink
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I hope you didn’t. Game not over but BYU was a paper lion.



Unfortunately, I did.
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November 9th, 2025 at 5:20:08 AM permalink
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Lions - 8 over Commanders

Commanders have been a disaster in just about every way - they're even getting booed at home
they've lost their last 3 games by 24, 21 and 22
even the lowly Cowboys crushed them
the Lions have a winning record and crushed the Bucs who are tied for the best record in the NFC

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Lions - 8 over Commanders

Commanders have been a disaster in just about every way - they're even getting booed at home
they've lost their last 3 games by 24, 21 and 22
even the lowly Cowboys crushed them
the Lions have a winning record and crushed the Bucs who are tied for the best record in the NFC

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Bam! Great pick.

I’m still alive in my $1,000,000 survivor pool. I had Seahawks today. Started with around 150,000. Down to around 7,000. I have Steelers over Bengals next week.
I can’t cash out, but they list my present value at around $160. (The prize money is actually over $1.1 million, but they still call it ‘the $1,000,000 survivor pool).
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November 10th, 2025 at 2:53:43 PM permalink
It’s been in the making for a while, but Luis Ortiz and Emmanuel Clase were just indicted for fixing certain prop bets. You can bet on the MPH of a specific pitch. Clase allegedly told cohorts that his first pitch would be a fastball (bet over) or a curveball (bet under). Clase’s next contract likely would have exceeded $100 million.

I’m thinking this event may be the straw that breaks the camels back with regards to certain prop bets.
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November 10th, 2025 at 4:57:28 PM permalink
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It’s been in the making for a while, but Luis Ortiz and Emmanuel Clase were just indicted for fixing certain prop bets. You can bet on the MPH of a specific pitch. Clase allegedly told cohorts that his first pitch would be a fastball (bet over) or a curveball (bet under). Clase’s next contract likely would have exceeded $100 million.

I’m thinking this event may be the straw that breaks the camels back with regards to certain prop bets.
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I agree. I'd like to see individual pitch bets banned. As well as things like a player getting caught stealing or making an error. All that stuff should be one-sided lines where the one side is the player executing something good for his team.

The way I think of it, anything I could go out there and do I won't bet on. And I could definitely throw a baseball and miss home plate, get caught stealing by about 30 feet, or fall on my ass trying to make a play.
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November 10th, 2025 at 8:35:16 PM permalink
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It’s been in the making for a while, but Luis Ortiz and Emmanuel Clase were just indicted for fixing certain prop bets. You can bet on the MPH of a specific pitch. Clase allegedly told cohorts that his first pitch would be a fastball (bet over) or a curveball (bet under). Clase’s next contract likely would have exceeded $100 million.

I’m thinking this event may be the straw that breaks the camels back with regards to certain prop bets.
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Yeah, I don't understand why anybody who is going to make tens of millions Plus dollars would ever think about doing something idiotic like that.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
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November 10th, 2025 at 8:54:34 PM permalink
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It’s been in the making for a while, but Luis Ortiz and Emmanuel Clase were just indicted for fixing certain prop bets. You can bet on the MPH of a specific pitch. Clase allegedly told cohorts that his first pitch would be a fastball (bet over) or a curveball (bet under). Clase’s next contract likely would have exceeded $100 million.

I’m thinking this event may be the straw that breaks the camels back with regards to certain prop bets.
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Yeah, I don't understand why anybody who is going to make tens of millions Plus dollars would ever think about doing something idiotic like that.
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These guys are in their 20s. They still think showing off for their friends and relatives is important.

It's been shown that the excessive risk-taking of young males is not due to underestimating the risk as much as overestimating the reward. I remember when "so everyone will think I'm awesome!" was a good enough reason to do something stupid that was a risk to me.
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November 11th, 2025 at 5:22:34 AM permalink
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It’s been in the making for a while, but Luis Ortiz and Emmanuel Clase were just indicted for fixing certain prop bets. You can bet on the MPH of a specific pitch. Clase allegedly told cohorts that his first pitch would be a fastball (bet over) or a curveball (bet under). Clase’s next contract likely would have exceeded $100 million.

I’m thinking this event may be the straw that breaks the camels back with regards to certain prop bets.
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What does he need $100 million for? It is said he got paid thousands for tipping the pitches. It is alleged that the ones caught betting it made less than $500k.
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November 11th, 2025 at 8:20:16 AM permalink
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college game today

Akron - 6.5 over Kent State

Akron is 3-2 at home, Kent St. is 0-5 away
Akron last week crushed UMass by 34 at home and they beat Duquesne by 44 at home
2 weeks ago Akron beat Buffalo by 8 when they were away and 10 point underdogs
Kent St. got crushed by not so great Toledo when away by 35
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November 11th, 2025 at 4:07:47 PM permalink
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college game today

Akron - 6.5 over Kent State

Akron is 3-2 at home, Kent St. is 0-5 away
Akron last week crushed UMass by 34 at home and they beat Duquesne by 44 at home
2 weeks ago Akron beat Buffalo by 8 when they were away and 10 point underdogs
Kent St. got crushed by not so great Toledo when away by 35
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Not sure where or when you got your line, but I just tried to get it. I had to lay -145 to get -6.5. But I did! Lilred is on fire!
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November 12th, 2025 at 4:08:16 AM permalink
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Not sure where or when you got your line, but I just tried to get it. I had to lay -145 to get -6.5. But I did! Lilred is on fire!


sorry you lost your bet
the fire has cooled down
things often don't happen as they look like they should - I'm sure you already know that

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November 12th, 2025 at 3:35:22 PM permalink
SOOPOO parlay. Knicks/Thunder.
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November 14th, 2025 at 10:18:36 AM permalink
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SOOPOO parlay. Knicks/Thunder.
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Had the Knicks scored 25 more points they would have been right in it.

I’m sure it’s -EV, but sucker SOOPOO is betting on Wisconsin over in points tomorrow. I did my due diligence, and their offense SUCKS, and planned on a bet on under 13 or so. But the number was 6.5! ONE TD and extra point and I win. (They have been shut out twice, and are playing #2 Indiana.).
I’m also doing a parlay on Wisconsin over 6.5/Indiana over 37.5.
Looking for 38-7?

I have Steelers in suicide pool. Not confident.
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November 15th, 2025 at 3:57:36 AM permalink
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UNLV - 6 over Utah State


UNLV has had some impressive wins
USU has a weird record - 5-0 at home, and 0-4 away
they've been crushed every single time they've played away - by 19, 22, 20 and 22

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November 15th, 2025 at 8:14:57 AM permalink
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Had the Knicks scored 25 more points they would have been right in it.

I’m sure it’s -EV, but sucker SOOPOO is betting on Wisconsin over in points tomorrow. I did my due diligence, and their offense SUCKS, and planned on a bet on under 13 or so. But the number was 6.5! ONE TD and extra point and I win. (They have been shut out twice, and are playing #2 Indiana.).
I’m also doing a parlay on Wisconsin over 6.5/Indiana over 37.5.
Looking for 38-7?

I have Steelers in suicide pool. Not confident.
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I believe Wisconsin is starting a new QB today which I don't consider a negative as the last one wasn't putting up any points. I would consider over 6.5 a solid bet as even a single turnover could help produce a touchdown.
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November 15th, 2025 at 8:26:36 AM permalink
I’ve been liking ‘over’ in NBA cup games. Teams up 10, instead of holding the ball for 24 seconds in the last few minutes, keep trying to score, as point differential matters. So a game that might be ‘dribbled out’ at 115-105 might end 119-109, as an example. Additionally, the starters might still be in the game as well.
Same concept for over on prop bets for the starters.
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Each year I enter the (free) ESPN contests for picking NFL games and College games. This year, as usual, there are more than one million entrants in each of their contests.

I am doing very well this year in one of their contests: the ESPN NFL Picks - Confidence. Each week a contestant picks the winner of each NFL game and rank orders their picks from one to 16 points (or 15 or 14 -depending upon how many games there are that week).

So, right at this moment I am in 69th place (out of more than 1 Million), in the 99.9 percentile. I have 898 points while going 104-44 with my picks.
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November 15th, 2025 at 2:34:40 PM permalink
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SOOPOO parlay. Knicks/Thunder.
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Had the Knicks scored 25 more points they would have been right in it.

I’m sure it’s -EV, but sucker SOOPOO is betting on Wisconsin over in points tomorrow. I did my due diligence, and their offense SUCKS, and planned on a bet on under 13 or so. But the number was 6.5! ONE TD and extra point and I win. (They have been shut out twice, and are playing #2 Indiana.).
I’m also doing a parlay on Wisconsin over 6.5/Indiana over 37.5.
Looking for 38-7?

I have Steelers in suicide pool. Not confident.
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you were almost right on it. Indiana won 31-7
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November 16th, 2025 at 4:35:13 AM permalink
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Mahomes under 261.5 passing yards - 114


the Broncos lead the league in sacks and have an excellent defense - have held opponents to 206 passing yards per game
Broncos have so far 46 sacks - 14 sacks ahead of 2nd place team
I'm hoping they will get to Mahomes, rattle his cage

lost my last pick - 2-2 on last 4 - hoping to get ahead with this one

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November 16th, 2025 at 7:31:31 AM permalink
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Mahomes under 261.5 passing yards - 114


the Broncos lead the league in sacks and have an excellent defense - have held opponents to 206 passing yards per game
Broncos have so far 46 sacks - 14 sacks ahead of 2nd place team
I'm hoping they will get to Mahomes, rattle his cage

lost my last pick - 2-2 on last 4 - hoping to get ahead with this one

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Usually I can’t find a line as good as you post. Today I got much better. I got Mahomes at under 266.5. SOOPOO hit all 3 UFC parlays, but all faves. They ended up around +200 each. Made up for my 0 for NBA/NCAAF/NHL.

I forgot to bet my Jokic TD/ Nuggets win. Oh well.
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