Is it safe to assume we are not having a contest this year? Last year Mission started getting things ready in mid-July.
As of right now, the 20200 NFL season is less than a week away. (Actually, a bit more than a week, since we don't include the Thursday games.)
If we're going to do anything, we need some decisions very quickly.
Quote: EdCollinsWhere's Mission?
He seems to have gone Witness Protection Program and I hope all is well with him.
Quote: PlayYourCardsRightI messaged Mission last week, and he said he was puttimg something up this weekend. But there is a contest coming.
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Time is becoming critical for an NFL Picks contest -at least one that includes the first week of the regular season. This is the last day of 'this weekend,' let's hope that Mission does what he says he will.
Quote: PlayYourCardsRightI messaged Mission last week, and he said he was puttimg something up this weekend. But there is a contest coming.
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Time is becoming critical for an NFL Picks contest -at least one that includes the first week of the regular season. This is the last day of 'this weekend,' let's hope that Mission does what he says he will.
Quote: seo2griarTime is becoming critical for an NFL Picks contest
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Nobody has stepped up so there will probably not be one. Personally I do not have the time so count me out for running it.
I haven't determined what the prizes will be for this season, but they'll be at least the same as last season.
Finally, I'm going to change the rules of the Perfection Bonus such that it will be paid out directly at the end of the season, or maybe even by Amazon Gift Card during the season. Offsetting Entry Fee to the winner is too much of a PITA. Also, for that reason, I'm going to pay Second Place, Third Place, "Most Average," and "You Suck," directly this year and those people will still have to arrange to pay their Entry Fee to the winner at the end of it.
The one thing that I am going to do is that I am paying Second and Third Place MORE and First Place less as First Place gets the Entry Fees anyway.
With that, everything else will be the same, (except winners of minor prizes will still have to pay the winner directly as far as Entry Fee goes) except the Top Three prize structure will be thus:
First Place: $250 (This person will also win all Entry Fees)
Second Place: $150
Third Place: $100
For those who haven't and would like to, please find the complete rules here:
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gambling/sports/37505-official-2022-wov-picks-game-thread/#post860870
3.) Saturday/Sunday/Monday games will be the only games considered. Every player must pick exactly five winners against the Spread, exactly five Over/Unders, or a combination totaling exactly five. If Saturday games are available, then you must submit your set of Picks that includes a Saturday game at least ONE HOUR BEFORE KICKOFF of any Saturday games; your Picks will also be locked in for that week and cannot be changed if you have picked Saturday game(s).
---The change to Rule 3 is a minor change to reflect that any Saturday game Picks must be made at least one hour before kickoff; the previous rule just said that they had to be in before kickoff. This rule, as the previous, only applies if there are Saturday games and you are picking any of them.
4b.) On a case-by-case basis, I will consider allowing Picks to be made in advance of the Lines being posted by me. If I do this, it can only be for that week's Picks. (IOW---you might be permitted to make your picks on Tuesday for the following Sunday's games)
4(b)(i) For clarification, what that means is that you may submit the teams you want against the spread, (ex. Patriots-Over, Patriots -x) without knowing what Thursday's spread is going to be. However, if the spread when you send them to me and the spread posted on Thursday differs, then your Picks will be amended to reflect Thursday's spread (or whatever spread is posted)
This isn't really a case-by-case basis as I have never refused to accept Early Picks; the rule is just meant to clarify that any early Picks will be subject to the Lines as of the time I post them. Naturally, this is pretty obvious, but I figured I should go ahead and codify it.
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gambling/sports/37505-official-2022-wov-picks-game-thread/#post860870
Note that in the official rules, you should change "2021" to "2022".
The time has come, once again, for the 2021 WoV NFL Picks Game!!!
Also, feel free to edit Rule 7.
7.) At some point on Tuesday or Wednesday the picks, results and updated Standings will be posted by EdCollins or myself in the Discussion Thread.
I'll be happy to post the updated standings again, all year long, but like previous years, I will do so minutes after the Monday Night Game has finished. No way will I need to wait until Tuesday or Wednesday.
:)
The Week 1 Lines are as follows: (PM's to follow shortly after this post)
Saints -5.5 @ Falcons +5.5 O/U 42.5
49ers -7 @ Bears +7 O/U 40.5
Steelers +6.5 @ Bengals -6.5 O/U 44.5
Eagles -4 @ Lions +4 O/U 48.5
Patriots + 3.5 @ Dolphins -3.5 O/U 46
Ravens -7 @ Jets +7 O/U 44.5
Jaguars +2.5 @ Commanders -2.5 O/U 44
Browns +1.5 @ Panthers -1.5 O/U 42
Colts -7 @ Texans +7 O/U 45.5
Giants +5.5 @ Titans -5.5 O/U 43.5
Packers -1.5 @ Vikings +1.5 O/U 47
Chiefs -5.5 @ Cardinals +5.5 O/U 53.5
Raiders +3.5 @ Chargers -3.5 O/U 52
Buccaneers -2.5 @ Cowboys +2.5 O/U 50.5
Broncos -6.5 @ Seahawks +6.5 O/U 44
Picks are due by 10:00a EST on Sunday, September 11th, 2022.
Quote: EdCollinsThanks again for hosting Mission.
Note that in the official rules, you should change "2021" to "2022".
The time has come, once again, for the 2021 WoV NFL Picks Game!!!
Also, feel free to edit Rule 7.
7.) At some point on Tuesday or Wednesday the picks, results and updated Standings will be posted by EdCollins or myself in the Discussion Thread.
I'll be happy to post the updated standings again, all year long, but like previous years, I will do so minutes after the Monday Night Game has finished. No way will I need to wait until Tuesday or Wednesday.
:)
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You're welcome; thank you for posting the standings! That rule will be so amended and I will change the post to reflect the correct year! As you probably suspect, I just copy/paste and make adjustments, so I missed that.
Quote: gordonm888Hoooray!!! Thank you, Mission. I assume that by submitting picks, we are announcing that we are in the contest and agree to the contest entry fee of $25, payable at the end of the contest?
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You're welcome, and that is correct.
7.) EdCollins will generally post results and updated standings shortly after Monday night's game. On very rare occasions, EdCollins' availability might require that I grade Picks by hand, if that happens, it will be on Tuesday or Wednesday. Please, "Self-Police," your own Standings to see if there is an inaccuracy. There hasn't been one in four years, so I trust EdCollins' program and usually do not double check.
Well technically, "minutes after the Monday Night Game is finished" often is Tuesday on the East Coast! (And is always Tuesday in Nova Scotia! ;) !)Quote: EdCollinsThanks again for hosting Mission.
Note that in the official rules, you should change "2021" to "2022".
The time has come, once again, for the 2021 WoV NFL Picks Game!!!
Also, feel free to edit Rule 7.
7.) At some point on Tuesday or Wednesday the picks, results and updated Standings will be posted by EdCollins or myself in the Discussion Thread.
I'll be happy to post the updated standings again, all year long, but like previous years, I will do so minutes after the Monday Night Game has finished. No way will I need to wait until Tuesday or Wednesday.
:)
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PS: Thanks for doing this, Ed!
PPS: Thanks also to Mission for putting this on again!
Okay, between people who played either of the games last year and seo2griar, I have sent out 27 PM invites. For anyone who did not receive one of these and wants to play the game, simply read the Official Rules here:
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gambling/sports/37505-official-2022-wov-picks-game-thread/#post860870
At that point, you may simply send me your Picks or PM me with any questions about the game you might have. Alternatively, if you have a question, you can also post it in this thread as most participants have been playing long enough that they probably know the answer.
Reminder PM's to make your Picks will go out Saturday to anyone who received an invitation and has not yet done so. There will generally be reminder PM's always, but especially during the first few weeks of the season.
I can't remember whether or not I did this last season, but I am also going to be sending the Lines to everyone, via PM, on Thursdays. With that, it should reduce the necessity of me sending reminders mid-late season, but I'm still going to try to do it.
Quote: JoemanWell technically, "minutes after the Monday Night Game is finished" often is Tuesday on the East Coast! (And is always Tuesday in Nova Scotia! ;) !)
LOL. Very true. I stand corrected.
I think there is an error in the rules as somewhere you mentioned week 17. There are 18 weeks in the NFL schedule now. Unless you actually want the contest to not include the last week of the season.
Quote: SOOPOOI’ve already sent you my picks! I’m having some difficulty with the pm functionality on this site but (I think) I was able to send them to you using the reply button. If you want to save time, you can send me the money for Mr. Average now….
I think there is an error in the rules as somewhere you mentioned week 17. There are 18 weeks in the NFL schedule now. Unless you actually want the contest to not include the last week of the season.
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Good catch; fixed! I guess nobody caught it last year!
The reminders for Week 1 will be sent in about ten minutes. I have received thirteen PM's that I believe to contain picks so far, but people can always sign up in Week 2 and there are also others who tend to get them in during the 11th hour anyway.
Quote: Mission146Greetings!
The reminders for Week 1 will be sent in about ten minutes. I have received thirteen PM's that I believe to contain picks so far, but people can always sign up in Week 2 and there are also others who tend to get them in during the 11th hour anyway.
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Okay, it looks like 12 sets of Picks in with one of those PM's being a duplicate; sixteen reminders were sent. Many of the initial invitation PM's were not opened, so I assume that those people have not been on in recent days.
If anyone misses this week, please keep in mind that you can start playing as of Week 2; you'll just have used your Skip Week.
I'd also like to see a total of at least twenty players to make the Playoff game worth doing. We will run the main game regardless of turnout, but I'm only going to run the Playoff game if there are at least twenty commitments.
The Week 1 Picks are as follows:
(This is the first week, so if I somehow miss your picks, just say so, and I'll double check my PM's.)
Vegasbrent:
Falcons +5.5
Patriots +3.5
Browns +1.5
Bears +7
Ravens -7-Confidence
AZDuffman:
Ravens UNDER 44.5
Steelers UNDER 44.5-CONFIDENCE
Cardinals +5.5
Bears +7
Panthers UNDER 42
SOOPOO:
Broncos -6.5 CONFIDENCE
Packers -1.5
Raiders +3.5
Panthers -1.5
Chiefs -5.5
Gaming711:
Saints -5.5
Steelers +6.5-CONFIDENCE
Eagles - 4
Colts -7
Chiefs -5.5
KSDJDJ:
Saints UNDER 42.5
Bears UNDER 40.5
Steelers UNDER 44.5
Eagles UNDER 48.5
Patriots OVER 46
Johnzimbo:
49ers -7 confidence
Cardinals +5.5
Panthers -1.5
Eagles -4
Chargers under 52
JimRockford:
Cowboys UNDER 50.5
Chiefs OVER 53.5
Raiders +3.5
Packers -1.5
Jaguars +2.5-Confidence
GenWyzgy:
Panthers -1.5 Confidence
Bengals -6.5
Ravens -7
Titans -5.5
Chargers -3.5
Gordonm888
49ers -7
Ravens -7 Confidence
Texans +7
Giants +5.5
Buccaneers Under 50.5
jml24:
Bears +7
Lions +4
Jets +7
Texans +7
Broncos -6.5
JW17:
Broncos -6.5 (confidence)
Buccaneers -2.5
Bengals -6.5
Panthers -1.5
Jaguars +2.5
Wizard:
Bears +7
Eagles -4
Patriots + 3.5
Jets +7 confidence
Commanders -2.5
EdCollins
Bengals -6.5
Eagles -4
Jets +7
Vikings +1.5 Confidence
Chiefs -5.5
IndyJeffrey
Falcons +5.5
Bears +7
Eagles -4 Confidence
Jets +7
Texans +7
miplet:
Bears +7
Browns +1.5
Vikings +1.5
Chiefs -5.5
Seahawks +6.5-confidence
FourFiveFace:
Falcons +5.5-Confidence
Panthers -1.5
Vikings +1.5
Cardinals +5.5
Raiders +3.5
Joeman:
Cowboys under 50.5
Falcons +5.5
Bengals -6.5-confidence
Panthers -1.5
Falcons over 42.5
PlayYourCardsRight:
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We've got seventeen players to Week 1, so we will want to add at least three in Week 2 to make the Playoff Game worth doing.
If you wish to participate starting Week 2, please keep in mind that you will have already used your Skip Week, so you will not have one. You may participate in the following ways:
A.) Simply PM me your Picks by the time they would be due (10:00a.m. EST 9/16/22) as normal.
Or:
B.) Post in this thread that you would like to receive a Thursday PM as well as a Saturday reminder to make your Picks, if you haven't already.
We also have several PM's that have not been opened, nearly ten, I believe, so if those people appear before next week they might end up playing.
I'd like to wish everyone good fortune in the contest. I am not making Picks this year because my lifetime record is strong enough and over a large enough sample size that I don't feel like I have anything to prove. I wouldn't accept Entry Fees if I were the winner, anyway, so all I would be doing is saving whatever prize money would correspond with any prize that I won.
A bit of love for the home Panthers and the visiting Eagles.
No love at all for the home Dolphins or Cowboys.
A bit of love for the Under on both the Steelers/Bengals and Bucs/'Boys
Good Luck everyone!
Glad we are back and even happier to be donating funds again this year!
Quote: PlayYourCardsRightI am in and using my SKIP for this week. Blaming a f'd up sked at work this week.
Glad we are back and even happier to be donating funds again this year!
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Excellent! I have modified the list to reflect you taking a Skip Week; that's mostly so I am 100% likely to send you the PMs as opposed to 99%.
Week 01 Results
Vegasbrent (5-1)
FALCONS +5.5 (win)
PATRIOTS +3.5 (loss)
BROWNS +1.5 (win)
BEARS +7 (win)
RAVENS -7 CONFIDENCE (win)
AZDuffman (4-2)
RAVENS UNDER 44.5 (win)
STEELERS UNDER 44.5 CONFIDENCE (win)
CARDINALS +5.5 (loss)
BEARS +7 (win)
PANTHERS UNDER 42 (loss)
SOOPOO (1-5)
BRONCOS -6.5 CONFIDENCE (loss)
PACKERS -1.5 (loss)
RAIDERS +3.5 (loss)
PANTHERS -1.5 (loss)
CHIEFS -5.5 (win)
Gaming711 (3-3)
SAINTS -5.5 (loss)
STEELERS +6.5 CONFIDENCE (win)
EAGLES - 4 (loss)
COLTS -7 (loss)
CHIEFS -5.5 (win)
KSDJDJ (2-3)
SAINTS UNDER 42.5 (loss)
BEARS UNDER 40.5 (win)
STEELERS UNDER 44.5 (win)
EAGLES UNDER 48.5 (loss)
PATRIOTS OVER 46 (loss)
Johnzimbo (1-5)
49ERS -7 CONFIDENCE (loss)
CARDINALS +5.5 (loss)
PANTHERS -1.5 (loss)
EAGLES -4 (loss)
CHARGERS UNDER 52 (win)
JimRockford (2-4)
COWBOYS UNDER 50.5 (win)
CHIEFS OVER 53.5 (win)
RAIDERS +3.5 (loss)
PACKERS -1.5 (loss)
JAGUARS +2.5 CONFIDENCE (loss)
GenWyzgy (2-4)
PANTHERS -1.5 CONFIDENCE (loss)
BENGALS -6.5 (loss)
RAVENS -7 (win)
TITANS -5.5 (loss)
CHARGERS -3.5 (win)
Gordonm888 (5-1)
49ERS -7 (loss)
RAVENS -7 CONFIDENCE (win)
TEXANS +7 (win)
GIANTS +5.5 (win)
BUCCANEERS UNDER 50.5 (win)
jml24 (3-2)
BEARS +7 (win)
LIONS +4 (win)
JETS +7 (loss)
TEXANS +7 (win)
BRONCOS -6.5 (loss)
JW17 (1-5)
BRONCOS -6.5 (CONFIDENCE) (loss)
BUCCANEERS -2.5 (win)
BENGALS -6.5 (loss)
PANTHERS -1.5 (loss)
JAGUARS +2.5 (loss)
Wizard (2-4)
BEARS +7 (win)
EAGLES -4 (loss)
PATRIOTS + 3.5 (loss)
JETS +7 CONFIDENCE (loss)
COMMANDERS -2.5 (win)
EdCollins (3-3)
BENGALS -6.5 (loss)
EAGLES -4 (loss)
JETS +7 (loss)
VIKINGS +1.5 CONFIDENCE (win)
CHIEFS -5.5 (win)
IndyJeffrey (3-3)
FALCONS +5.5 (win)
BEARS +7 (win)
EAGLES -4 CONFIDENCE (loss)
JETS +7 (loss)
TEXANS +7 (win)
miplet (6-0)
BEARS +7 (win)
BROWNS +1.5 (win)
VIKINGS +1.5 (win)
CHIEFS -5.5 (win)
SEAHAWKS +6.5 CONFIDENCE (win)
FourFiveFace (3-3)
FALCONS +5.5 CONFIDENCE (win)
PANTHERS -1.5 (loss)
VIKINGS +1.5 (win)
CARDINALS +5.5 (loss)
RAIDERS +3.5 (loss)
Joeman (3-3)
COWBOYS UNDER 50.5 (win)
FALCONS +5.5 (win)
BENGALS -6.5 CONFIDENCE (loss)
PANTHERS -1.5 (loss)
FALCONS OVER 42.5 (win)
Week 01 Standings
Name | Wins | Losses | % |
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miplet | 6 | 0 | 100.00% |
Gordonm888 | 5 | 1 | 83.33% |
Vegasbrent | 5 | 1 | 83.33% |
AZDuffman | 4 | 2 | 66.67% |
jml24 | 3 | 2 | 60.00% |
EdCollins | 3 | 3 | 50.00% |
FourFiveFace | 3 | 3 | 50.00% |
Gaming711 | 3 | 3 | 50.00% |
IndyJeffrey | 3 | 3 | 50.00% |
Joeman | 3 | 3 | 50.00% |
KSDJDJ | 2 | 3 | 40.00% |
GenWyzgy | 2 | 4 | 33.33% |
JimRockford | 2 | 4 | 33.33% |
Wizard | 2 | 4 | 33.33% |
Johnzimbo | 1 | 5 | 16.67% |
JW17 | 1 | 5 | 16.67% |
SOOPOO | 1 | 5 | 16.67% |
Totals | 49 | 51 | 49.00% |
Skip Week Summary
(Everyone who plays next week, that didn't play this week, will have skipped Week 01.)
Perfection Bonus Summary
Week 01: miplet
This post is mainly to thank EdCollins, once again, for first building the program, second using said program to, and third, posting the Standings every week. That honestly saves me a ton of time as grading the Picks by hand would otherwise be the longest part of this game's administration.
I'd also like to thank Miplet for his program, but I will say that it, unfortunately, no longer works. I suspect the reason why is because VI changed its formatting such that spreads and MLs are no longer on the same page. It's honestly no big deal, so I wouldn't expend time to rewrite the program; posting the lines honestly doesn't take more than five minutes, even doing it manually.
Quote: JoemanCongrats to Miplet! Is there a weekly perfection bonus again this year?
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There is; it's $10 a week that carries over if nobody wins it the previous week. I probably will pay these out on a semi as-going basis, not necessarily immediately, but I doubt that I will wait until the end of the season again because my record-keeping sucks...so it will be easier to have fewer people to pay out at a time.
Also, congrats to Miplet!!! Has anyone ever banged it out Week 1 before? Does anyone know offhand?
unJon was perfect in Week 1 just last year.Quote: Mission146Also, congrats to Miplet!!! Has anyone ever banged it out Week 1 before? Does anyone know offhand?
unJon (6-0)
LIONS OVER 45.5 CONFIDENCE (win)
EAGLES UNDER 48 (win)
VIKINGS OVER 47.5 (win)
SEAHAWKS UNDER 49.5 (win)
CHARGERS +1 (win)
Quote: EdCollinsunJon was perfect in Week 1 just last year.Quote: Mission146Also, congrats to Miplet!!! Has anyone ever banged it out Week 1 before? Does anyone know offhand?
unJon (6-0)
LIONS OVER 45.5 CONFIDENCE (win)
EAGLES UNDER 48 (win)
VIKINGS OVER 47.5 (win)
SEAHAWKS UNDER 49.5 (win)
CHARGERS +1 (win)
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Ah the memories!
I’m on the fence about playing this year, but I’ll probably do it and submit picks for week 2.
Quote: Mission146We always hate to go sub-.500 as a group Week 1, but hopefully Week 2 will turn it around.
This post is mainly to thank EdCollins, once again, for first building the program, second using said program to, and third, posting the Standings every week. That honestly saves me a ton of time as grading the Picks by hand would otherwise be the longest part of this game's administration.
I'd also like to thank Miplet for his program, but I will say that it, unfortunately, no longer works. I suspect the reason why is because VI changed its formatting such that spreads and MLs are no longer on the same page. It's honestly no big deal, so I wouldn't expend time to rewrite the program; posting the lines honestly doesn't take more than five minutes, even doing it manually.
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I plan on trying a rewrite as a I use it for my line change stuff. Might be ready for next week.
Quote: mipletIt's done. http://miplet.net/nfl/current.php Just copy and paste the spread and total page texts in their proper boxes. It will show all games so you'll have to manualy remove games we don't use. Ask any questions, comments, errors ect.
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You're amazing, miplet. Can you also provide a link for the software you used to make your picks in the first week? We'd all like to go 6-0 in this 2nd week.
Quote: gordonm888You're amazing, miplet. Can you also provide a link for the software you used to make your picks in the first week? We'd all like to go 6-0 in this 2nd week.
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Simply click on the compare lines button. It will show all the lines that have changed with the current line in parentheses. Just make sure that the WoV lines are for the current week and not last.
Quote: mipletIt's done. http://miplet.net/nfl/current.php Just copy and paste the spread and total page texts in their proper boxes. It will show all games so you'll have to manualy remove games we don't use. Ask any questions, comments, errors ect.
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That's awesome; thank you very much!
Quote: Mission146Hey, I'll have the thread up and PM's for Picks out to people within the next few minutes. This can be the unofficial thread for the game. I'll also post the Lines and PM seogriar2 and everyone who played last year.
I haven't determined what the prizes will be for this season, but they'll be at least the same as last season.
Finally, I'm going to change the rules of the Perfection Bonus such that it will be paid out directly at the end of the season, or maybe even by Amazon Gift Card during the season. Offsetting Entry Fee to the winner is too much of a PITA. Also, for that reason, I'm going to pay Second Place, Third Place, "Most Average," and "You Suck," directly this year and those people will still have to arrange to pay their Entry Fee to the winner at the end of it.
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Good to have you back, Mission!
The Week 2 Lines are as follows:
Jets 6.5 @ Browns -6.5 O/U 40
Buccaneers -2.5 @ Saints 2.5 O/U 44
Panthers 2.5 @ Giants -2.5 O/U 43.5
Patriots -2 @ Steelers 2 O/U 40
Colts -4 @ Jaguars 4 O/U 45.5
Dolphins 3.5 @ Ravens -3.5 O/U 44.5
Commanders 2 @ Lions -2 O/U 48.5
Seahawks 8.5 @ 49ers -8.5 O/U 41
Falcons 10.5 @ Rams -10.5 O/U 46.5
Texans 10 @ Broncos -10 O/U 45
Cardinals 5.5 @ Raiders -5.5 O/U 51.5
Bengals -7.5 @ Cowboys 7.5 O/U 42
Bears 10 @ Packers -10 O/U 42
Titans 10 @ Bills -10 O/U 48.5
Vikings 2 @ Eagles -2 O/U 50.5
I'm going to PM everyone who played last week, everyone who posted in this thread (but did not play last week) within the last few days as well as two people from whom I received PM's indicating a desire to play. This should be completed within the next 30-45 minutes as I have something else to do first.
Reminders will be sent Saturday, probably early in the day. I think I will do two more weeks of PM'ing when the lines go up after this, and then after that, it will probably just be Saturday reminders to those who have not yet made their Picks.
To get everyone in the habit of looking for the Lines, today's PM (and the Thursday PM for the next two weeks) is going to contain a link to the lines, but not the actual lines themselves.