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Quote: TinManUnfortunately I didn’t maximize the bonuses as best as possible at the start (especially with Caesars). I probably left around $2k on the table. That said, I did a check and I’m up a little over $5k with an additional $500 in free bets left to bet. I also crossed the threshold to Caesars platinum for the first time which should be worth about another $60-$120 year in additional total free bets above the gold level (need to double check). There’s another $1k offer at another book I plan to pick up soon and since I know better how to convert it I should be able to get close to the full amount. It’s been a fun process. I’m hoping more books come onboard in NY.
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Also... having 4 (soon to be 5) choices allows for easy line shopping. I've gotten an extra 1/2 point a few times at the same -110 line on basketball. So whatever my -EV for those bets was diminished a little. My Caesars withdrawal now is listed as 'approved', but no money yet in bank account. I have 9 bets tonight and all tolled probably a +EV between $100 and $150.
Free bets, parlay boosts, odds boosts, deposit matches, etc…. it’s all good!
I just want to be clear on something - for example Caesars $3,000 deposit match
okay, let's say you deposit $3,000 bet it all and lose your bet
then you get the deposit match funds
let's say you bet it all on an even money bet and win__________
your payout would be $6,000__________correct____________________?
if that's true it's almost the same as if it was cash except you cannot withdraw it until the funds are bet
correct_________?_____________________thanks for the info
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The match is now only $1500, with no bonus $300 anymore.
So to answer your last question, yes, the bonus funds were essentially like cash, just cash you had to expose to the house edge. I figured the EV of the $6300 was around $6100. Not bad on a deposit of $3k.
I’m not as good at this as I should be. Lost a bunch because I had Pacers. Wasn’t aware they traded their best player, and the returning player won’t be with them for a few days.
I’ve been 3/4 on the parlays more often than not, with two hitting all 4. So I’ve been (mostly) either winning or at least getting a free bet back.
Yesterday was my first overall down day since starting this. I have to think of this as just bad variance.
Did poorly again last night. I had my free bets/+EV parlays mostly centered around Warriors and Lakers winning. Neither did.
Waiting on BetRivers sign up. Wife may sign up instead! She has shown some interest in the fun part.
I didn’t have the knowledge, but bet on Trailblazers +15.5 yesterday. I feel the worst team in the NBA should cover that more than 50%. I had ‘bonus money’ so had to bet anyways. Around halftime I see Trailblazers ahead or around tied, and go to the box score to see Giannis is not playing! If that knowledge was available when I made the bet NO WAY it’s 15.5. I have no idea who has that info and when…. but that is worth A LOT! I had to make an ‘in game’ bet to get another free bet, and despite a game around tied, and the main Bucks player not playing, I got TB’s plus 9.5. Cha Ching!
If you knew SOOPOO like I know SOOPOO... (hey that's a great song)Quote: DRichI have to say Soopoo that I am very impressed with the way you have engaged in this opportunity. Having read your posts over the past few years I would have never guessed that this is something that you would do. Congrats and keep up the good work.]
....you wouldn't be surprised.:)
Yasher koach, SOOPOO!
There (seems to be?) lots of bad (exploitable) player props as the lines don’t move as much as they should due to other injuries on your own team. The simplest examples I can give have been Julius Randle points while RJ Barrett is out, and Demar Derozan while Zach Lavine is out. Both Randle and Derozan get more opportunities when the other main target is out. With Davis going to be out for the Lakers I’d bet (I will!) that Westbrook and James have ‘over’ value.
I’m not sure if I am experiencing confirmation bias or if my hypothesis holds water.
I almost had a (good) sweep last night with my bigger bets. When the Knicks were up 28 I was feeling good about my ML three leg parlay that the other two had already won…. I wasn’t feeling good an hour later!
I’ve been making some small, -EV bets on multi team. NCAA parlays. Last night had a 7 teamer, all heavy favorites on ML. 6 won by blowout, but the 7th was Notre Dame, who was down 4 late, but won in OT. My $10 bet won me $30!
Quote: mcallister3200Note that in many cases same game parlays have higher holds and correlation built into the hold. Not that there aren’t +EV spots, but just because it’s correlated doesn’t mean they haven’t adjusted the hold to price in the correlation on obvious ones.
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Yes I agree with this. Should have mentioned it.
Quote: unJonSOOPOO, you should experiment with parlays of same game player props. Obviously those prop bets are highly correlated, yet at least some of the apps let you bet them. There are some +EV gems to be mined there.
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I have! I’ve been a bit unlucky as I’ve twice had a player go down early in a game with injury basically eliminating me. I’ve done better on ‘under’ combos as for non star players if they play fewer minutes all 3 hit (points, assists, rebounds).
I’m not good enough to be sure I have a +EV opportunity, but I’m ‘pretty sure’ many times.
Quote: mcallister3200Note that in many cases same game parlays have higher holds and correlation built into the hold. Not that there aren’t +EV spots, but just because it’s correlated doesn’t mean they haven’t adjusted the hold to price in the correlation on obvious ones.
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I’ve thought about that. It seems it is what they ‘should’ do, but often not what they do do.
(A sentence with do do in it…)
MGM last week gave me free $50 bet for just betting $200. Every day you could do it.
DraftKings gave me 75% profit boost on $250 bet for making a separate $1k bet. Worth around $150.
Plus the usual ‘parlay insurance’, free bets, smaller profit boosts. I’ve had a streak of +$$$ every day. I haven’t actually tried to figure out what my real +EV is yet. I may do that when I get home.
I keep cherry-picking too, but don't bet big at all. The indisputably +EV stuff keeps coming. Just BetMGM though.Quote: SOOPOO[snips] MGM last week gave me free $50 bet for just betting $200. Every day you could do it.
DraftKings gave me 75% profit boost on $250 bet for making a separate $1k bet.
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I figure they'll peg me for cherry-picking eventually. Been about a year though.
You may be more visible. What do you predict?
Those MGM free bets were great. Unfortunately I am on MGM's sh*t list now (long story) and have to fix it.Quote: SOOPOOMGM last week gave me free $50 bet for just betting $200. Every day you could do it.
DraftKings gave me 75% profit boost on $250 bet for making a separate $1k bet. Worth around $150.
I got the DK offer too. Did you hedge out the $1,000 cash bet or just bet it? I thought the 50% boost for a $500 bet was a better deal.
Quote: SOOPOOOut of state for vacation. I am missing my sports betting already! My latest correlated parlay try has been soccer tie and under 2.5 goals. Basically I win at 0-0 or 1-1. At 1-1, any goal sinks my under, and most likely my tie as well. I won on Newcastle yesterday. I think I got around 7-1.
MGM last week gave me free $50 bet for just betting $200. Every day you could do it.
DraftKings gave me 75% profit boost on $250 bet for making a separate $1k bet. Worth around $150.
Plus the usual ‘parlay insurance’, free bets, smaller profit boosts. I’ve had a streak of +$$$ every day. I haven’t actually tried to figure out what my real +EV is yet. I may do that when I get home.
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I’m pretty sure you can re-sign up MGM in the state you are vacationing in and collect the initial signup bonus again.
Quote: odiousgambitI keep cherry-picking too, but don't bet big at all. The indisputably +EV stuff keeps coming. Just BetMGM though.Quote: SOOPOO[snips] MGM last week gave me free $50 bet for just betting $200. Every day you could do it.
DraftKings gave me 75% profit boost on $250 bet for making a separate $1k bet.
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I figure they'll peg me for cherry-picking eventually. Been about a year though.
You may be more visible. What do you predict?
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I think I may be less ‘visible’ than you then. I have been doing a bunch of hedging which as far as any one site can tell is just me making -EV bets. When I had ‘risk free’ bet for $5k at one site I made 3 -EV bets on the other sites for $700 or so. Many other similar smaller examples. Plus I’ve made some parlay bets that they think are -EV that I think are +EV! My early experience has Draft Kings as having the best offers of the 5 I’ve signed up for so far. Maybe MGM second. Caesars 3rd. FanDuel 4th. BetRivers 5th.
Quote: unJonQuote: SOOPOOOut of state for vacation. I am missing my sports betting already! My latest correlated parlay try has been soccer tie and under 2.5 goals. Basically I win at 0-0 or 1-1. At 1-1, any goal sinks my under, and most likely my tie as well. I won on Newcastle yesterday. I think I got around 7-1.
MGM last week gave me free $50 bet for just betting $200. Every day you could do it.
DraftKings gave me 75% profit boost on $250 bet for making a separate $1k bet. Worth around $150.
Plus the usual ‘parlay insurance’, free bets, smaller profit boosts. I’ve had a streak of +$$$ every day. I haven’t actually tried to figure out what my real +EV is yet. I may do that when I get home.
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I’m pretty sure you can re-sign up MGM in the state you are vacationing in and collect the initial signup bonus again.
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I am not doubting you, but I wouldn’t do it. The ‘state’ I am in now is Quintana Roo!
Quote: teddysThose MGM free bets were great. Unfortunately I am on MGM's sh*t list now (long story) and have to fix it.Quote: SOOPOOMGM last week gave me free $50 bet for just betting $200. Every day you could do it.
DraftKings gave me 75% profit boost on $250 bet for making a separate $1k bet. Worth around $150.
I got the DK offer too. Did you hedge out the $1,000 cash bet or just bet it? I thought the 50% boost for a $500 bet was a better deal.
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Since you asked…. I bet money line on hockey…. Laying I think -180. Team scored in last minute to tie, and won! I usually will hedge that big a bet but didn’t. So got VERY lucky and won I think like $560. For full disclosure, I used the profit boost on a parlay (it lost) which I hedged against. I miscalculated and underbet my hedge. So I lost $$ on my profit boost…. I texted my DK concierge and alerted him that I’m out of state and he said I will maintain my status.
Quote: SOOPOOQuote: unJonQuote: SOOPOOOut of state for vacation. I am missing my sports betting already! My latest correlated parlay try has been soccer tie and under 2.5 goals. Basically I win at 0-0 or 1-1. At 1-1, any goal sinks my under, and most likely my tie as well. I won on Newcastle yesterday. I think I got around 7-1.
MGM last week gave me free $50 bet for just betting $200. Every day you could do it.
DraftKings gave me 75% profit boost on $250 bet for making a separate $1k bet. Worth around $150.
Plus the usual ‘parlay insurance’, free bets, smaller profit boosts. I’ve had a streak of +$$$ every day. I haven’t actually tried to figure out what my real +EV is yet. I may do that when I get home.
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I’m pretty sure you can re-sign up MGM in the state you are vacationing in and collect the initial signup bonus again.
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I am not doubting you, but I wouldn’t do it. The ‘state’ I am in now is Quintana Roo!
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They have sportsbooks in Quintana Roo. I am guessing you would actually have to go to the land based casino.
We had online sports betting for about a month in Florida until it was challenged and shut down.
Quote: DRichQuote: SOOPOOQuote: unJonQuote: SOOPOOOut of state for vacation. I am missing my sports betting already! My latest correlated parlay try has been soccer tie and under 2.5 goals. Basically I win at 0-0 or 1-1. At 1-1, any goal sinks my under, and most likely my tie as well. I won on Newcastle yesterday. I think I got around 7-1.
MGM last week gave me free $50 bet for just betting $200. Every day you could do it.
DraftKings gave me 75% profit boost on $250 bet for making a separate $1k bet. Worth around $150.
Plus the usual ‘parlay insurance’, free bets, smaller profit boosts. I’ve had a streak of +$$$ every day. I haven’t actually tried to figure out what my real +EV is yet. I may do that when I get home.
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I’m pretty sure you can re-sign up MGM in the state you are vacationing in and collect the initial signup bonus again.
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I am not doubting you, but I wouldn’t do it. The ‘state’ I am in now is Quintana Roo!
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They have sportsbooks in Quintana Roo. I am guessing you would actually have to go to the land based casino.
We had online sports betting for about a month in Florida until it was challenged and shut down.
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I’m not that interested in making random bets. I’ll wait until I get back to USA. We will not be leaving the hotel premises until we leave for the airport. I’m talking to a national/ international audience here. Eating/drinking/sunning/swimming in 82 degree weather for 7 straight days beats shoveling snow back home even without access to my fun betting accounts.
Quote: SOOPOOQuote: DRichQuote: SOOPOOQuote: unJonQuote: SOOPOOOut of state for vacation. I am missing my sports betting already! My latest correlated parlay try has been soccer tie and under 2.5 goals. Basically I win at 0-0 or 1-1. At 1-1, any goal sinks my under, and most likely my tie as well. I won on Newcastle yesterday. I think I got around 7-1.
MGM last week gave me free $50 bet for just betting $200. Every day you could do it.
DraftKings gave me 75% profit boost on $250 bet for making a separate $1k bet. Worth around $150.
Plus the usual ‘parlay insurance’, free bets, smaller profit boosts. I’ve had a streak of +$$$ every day. I haven’t actually tried to figure out what my real +EV is yet. I may do that when I get home.
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I’m pretty sure you can re-sign up MGM in the state you are vacationing in and collect the initial signup bonus again.
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I am not doubting you, but I wouldn’t do it. The ‘state’ I am in now is Quintana Roo!
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They have sportsbooks in Quintana Roo. I am guessing you would actually have to go to the land based casino.
We had online sports betting for about a month in Florida until it was challenged and shut down.
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I’m not that interested in making random bets. I’ll wait until I get back to USA. We will not be leaving the hotel premises until we leave for the airport. I’m talking to a national/ international audience here. Eating/drinking/sunning/swimming in 82 degree weather for 7 straight days beats shoveling snow back home even without access to my fun betting accounts.
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Should have come to Southern Florida. It is warmer at 84 degrees today and should be in the upper 80's the rest of the week. I am loving it.
Quote: SOOPOOI may be down your way early April. If I can afford the extra days away from my online sports books…I do keep getting alert emails from them and I can’t do anything about it!
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You would be rich if you just did this and put $10 on it,
https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/news/bettor-turns-1-10-bet-into-532k-with-insane-23-leg-college-basketball-parlay/
Quote: DRichQuote: SOOPOOQuote: DRichQuote: SOOPOOQuote: unJonQuote: SOOPOOOut of state for vacation. I am missing my sports betting already! My latest correlated parlay try has been soccer tie and under 2.5 goals. Basically I win at 0-0 or 1-1. At 1-1, any goal sinks my under, and most likely my tie as well. I won on Newcastle yesterday. I think I got around 7-1.
MGM last week gave me free $50 bet for just betting $200. Every day you could do it.
DraftKings gave me 75% profit boost on $250 bet for making a separate $1k bet. Worth around $150.
Plus the usual ‘parlay insurance’, free bets, smaller profit boosts. I’ve had a streak of +$$$ every day. I haven’t actually tried to figure out what my real +EV is yet. I may do that when I get home.
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I’m pretty sure you can re-sign up MGM in the state you are vacationing in and collect the initial signup bonus again.
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I am not doubting you, but I wouldn’t do it. The ‘state’ I am in now is Quintana Roo!
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They have sportsbooks in Quintana Roo. I am guessing you would actually have to go to the land based casino.
We had online sports betting for about a month in Florida until it was challenged and shut down.
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I’m not that interested in making random bets. I’ll wait until I get back to USA. We will not be leaving the hotel premises until we leave for the airport. I’m talking to a national/ international audience here. Eating/drinking/sunning/swimming in 82 degree weather for 7 straight days beats shoveling snow back home even without access to my fun betting accounts.
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Should have come to Southern Florida. It is warmer at 84 degrees today and should be in the upper 80's the rest of the week. I am loving it.
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From Thanksgiving until Easter, Florida has near perfect weather. Snow birds have it right.
Quote: DRichQuote: SOOPOOI may be down your way early April. If I can afford the extra days away from my online sports books…I do keep getting alert emails from them and I can’t do anything about it!
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You would be rich if you just did this and put $10 on it,
https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/news/bettor-turns-1-10-bet-into-532k-with-insane-23-leg-college-basketball-parlay/
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I did hit a 7 team parlay last week, but I think they were all pretty big faves I may have gotten 5-1 if I remember correctly…. On a massive $10 bet…..
If anyone has information on PointsBet Sportsbook I’m interested. Apparently I can sign up with them in NY now.
So today I have a bunch of bets on St. Mary's/Santa Clara today. St. Mary's either -4.5 or -5. Santa Clara +5.5. With all the offers I win no matter what, but clean up if St. Mary's wins by 5.
Similar situation on Wright State versus Cleveland State. I have Wright St + 1, as well as Cleveland St +1. I win a little no matter what, but clean up if either team wins by 1.
No one with any info/experience with Pointsbet?
I am deferring signing up with Wynn as they only have a very small intro offer. If they ever have a $1k risk free bet or a minimum $250 deposit match I'll sign up then.
Quote: SOOPOOProfit boosts keep flowing in. Easy to turn them into $$$. Free bets up the wazoo. Mostly do 3 team parlays with them. I keep averaging between $100 and $200 a day.
So today I have a bunch of bets on St. Mary's/Santa Clara today. St. Mary's either -4.5 or -5. Santa Clara +5.5. With all the offers I win no matter what, but clean up if St. Mary's wins by 5.
Similar situation on Wright State versus Cleveland State. I have Wright St + 1, as well as Cleveland St +1. I win a little no matter what, but clean up if either team wins by 1.
No one with any info/experience with Pointsbet?
I am deferring signing up with Wynn as they only have a very small intro offer. If they ever have a $1k risk free bet or a minimum $250 deposit match I'll sign up then.
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Sorry to see St Marys only won by three.
Quote: SOOPOO(snip)
No one with any info/experience with Pointsbet? (snip)
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I have bet with their "Australian site" and they always paid.
I don't bet with them as much anymore because they took away the good bonuses/promos for me.
Quote: DRichQuote: SOOPOOProfit boosts keep flowing in. Easy to turn them into $$$. Free bets up the wazoo. Mostly do 3 team parlays with them. I keep averaging between $100 and $200 a day.
So today I have a bunch of bets on St. Mary's/Santa Clara today. St. Mary's either -4.5 or -5. Santa Clara +5.5. With all the offers I win no matter what, but clean up if St. Mary's wins by 5.
Similar situation on Wright State versus Cleveland State. I have Wright St + 1, as well as Cleveland St +1. I win a little no matter what, but clean up if either team wins by 1.
No one with any info/experience with Pointsbet?
I am deferring signing up with Wynn as they only have a very small intro offer. If they ever have a $1k risk free bet or a minimum $250 deposit match I'll sign up then.
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Sorry to see St Marys only won by three.
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Me too! The game didn’t start until 11:30pm so I just watched the beginning, and in retrospect I’m glad I don’t know what happened at the end. I did really well on the parlays last night after going o fer on soccer. So another plus day. Great offers on Conference tourney games today.
Best + EV opportunity yesterday was ‘bet on Rangers Wild game’ and if your team scores 3 or more get a free $50 bet. Wild average nearly 4 goals a game…. So won $37 and get a free bet to boot.
DraftKings withdrawal put in on Friday, money is in my bank account today.
I'll be putting in a FanDuel withdrawal tomorrow.
In one promotion I was allowed to bet on the Bills at over 10-1! That has to be significantly +EV! I also got the Chiefs at 2-1 to win the AFC west. Not sure (but I think?) if that is + EV, but we shall see!
Too bad for me that N.Y. did not allow betting on the draft…. I nailed the Bill’s first pick. Probably would have gotten 5-1 or so….
If Avs make finals I’ll be hedging, as long as no one tells mike!
Just curious if there are any offers that pertain to the Triple Crown races and whether or not you will use them. #livingvicariously
Either way, keep it rolling!
I just did a BetRivers withdrawal. Took either one day or two days, since I requested at the end of a business day. The approval email came very quickly.
For me, the ranking of the 5 I’m using goes as such….
DraftKings
Caesars
BetRivers
FanDuel
BetMGM
I haven’t been posting exactly what I’ve been doing, as per suggestions from sage forum members.
But I’ll say this, if I was DarkOz, with his drive, and his crew, I’d be making $20k a week, and I mean every week!
It's one thing to have some people get you some player's cards from the casinos by simply showing some ID, where most probably don't even really understand the free play, what's going on, or have the means to pick it up themselves even if they did understand.Quote: SOOPOOThere were offers for horse racing, but I don’t think in NYS I’m eligible.
I just did a BetRivers withdrawal. Took either one day or two days, since I requested at the end of a business day. The approval email came very quickly.
For me, the ranking of the 5 I’m using goes as such….
DraftKings
Caesars
BetRivers
FanDuel
BetMGM
I haven’t been posting exactly what I’ve been doing, as per suggestions from sage forum members.
But I’ll say this, if I was DarkOz, with his drive, and his crew, I’d be making $20k a week, and I mean every week!
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It's an entirely different thing to have those people get verified online, take detailed directions/instructions on what to do, and trust them to transfer large amounts of cash directory into their bank accounts (assuming they even have a bank account) and then get that money to you. Just a few hits not getting your money could be -EV.
Quote: SOOPOOThere were offers for horse racing, but I don’t think in NYS I’m eligible.
hunh_________????______________don't get what you're saying____________NYRAbets.com (New York Racing Association) is one of the major online racebooks
these are some of the promos the last time I checked just before the Kentucky Derby - probably still active - all should be called before anyone signs up to fully understand the T&C_________some don't allow show wagering on the qualifying deposit - one requires only win bets to earn the promo - some require the initial deposit to be bet within a certain amount of time - I believe all require the initial deposit to be bet before awarding the promo
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the best promos that I found are these - for new customers only - these are all legal U.S. racebooks - legal in most states
drf.com________ $250 deposit match
nyrabets.com__________________$200 deposit match
tvg.com___________________________________________ _$200 deposit match - match only served up after $200 bet - win bets only
amwager.com__________$150 deposit match
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Axel, of course you would need to trust the people who you are working with. It OF COURSE is against the terms of service, but you can’t imagine one nerd having 40 collaborators sign up, then the nerd just has the sign on info and places all the bets? Assume each account averages $2k per month, just take $3k from each person once a quarter. That leaves $1k a month for DOING NOTHING to each of the collaborators. And my numbers are super conservative.
And there is a hard copy trail of all the bets. MORE secure than when you have a colleague on a play when you can’t see him actually play.
I totally understand the situation and potential, and under the right circumstances you would be correct, however as I pointed out, it's not easy finding solid people willing and able to do this who are trustworthy enough. The money must pass through those people's banking methods and get into your hands.Quote: SOOPOOI haven’t investigated the legal horse betting site you mentioned. Horse betting does not come up as a possibility on BetRivers, BetMGM, Caesars, or DraftKings. At this point I’m not joining a new account for a $200 deposit match.
Axel, of course you would need to trust the people who you are working with. It OF COURSE is against the terms of service, but you can’t imagine one nerd having 40 collaborators sign up, then the nerd just has the sign on info and places all the bets? Assume each account averages $2k per month, just take $3k from each person once a quarter. That leaves $1k a month for DOING NOTHING to each of the collaborators. And my numbers are super conservative.
And there is a hard copy trail of all the bets. MORE secure than when you have a colleague on a play when you can’t see him actually play.
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"then the nerd just has the sign-on info and places all the bets?" Not exactly that simple, but I don't really want to discuss the details since we are dealing with state-regulated casinos, and I am not sure of the legalities. At a minimum, they could certainly shut down the accounts and refuse to pay.
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I’m hoping once football season starts there will be more opportunities, as recently it’s been 70% baseball, with drinks and drabs of soccer, tennis, golf, MMA, and NASCAR thrown in.
I’ve now withdrawn more than I deposited, and have well funded accounts at all 5.
I’m closing in on Diamond at Caesars. I may need help getting a few more points in October when I’m in Vegas….
I’m pretty sure it lasts for all of 2023.
I was a VIP at DraftKings. If anything, I’m betting more than when I was given that status. I’ve made multiple withdrawals which may have triggered my removal from VIP status. Was not informed, just noticed I’m not getting the VIP offers, which were great.
I’m good at picking the low hanging fruit. But certainly not good at maximizing EV. But all in all I’m happy with results.
