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September 30th, 2019 at 5:50:49 AM permalink
Quote: GWAE

Quote: michael99000

Quote: onenickelmiracle

Quote: beachbumbabs

I went with the Chiefs because they're a great team. We both still lost


onenickelmiracle:
Panthers (+4)-confidence
Browns (+7)
Giants (-3)
Seahawks U 48
Jaguars (+3)

My original set. :(



Ive been keeping track of picks and bets people on this forum tell us they liked after the games are over.

Updated record:

3635783 - 0





Btw, his were posted. So glad you could add your unneccesssry input.



Posted where ?
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September 30th, 2019 at 7:23:11 AM permalink
Quote: GWAE

Quote: michael99000

Quote: onenickelmiracle

Quote: beachbumbabs

I went with the Chiefs because they're a great team. We both still lost


onenickelmiracle:
Panthers (+4)-confidence
Browns (+7)
Giants (-3)
Seahawks U 48
Jaguars (+3)

My original set. :(



Ive been keeping track of picks and bets people on this forum tell us they liked after the games are over.

Updated record:

3635783 - 0



Completely untrue.

Btw, his were posted. So glad you could add your unneccesssry input.



I thought it was funny.
If the House lost every hand, they wouldn't deal the game.
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September 30th, 2019 at 7:25:19 AM permalink
Quote: michael99000

Quote: GWAE

Quote: michael99000

Quote: onenickelmiracle

Quote: beachbumbabs

I went with the Chiefs because they're a great team. We both still lost


onenickelmiracle:
Panthers (+4)-confidence
Browns (+7)
Giants (-3)
Seahawks U 48
Jaguars (+3)

My original set. :(



Ive been keeping track of picks and bets people on this forum tell us they liked after the games are over.

Updated record:

3635783 - 0





Btw, his were posted. So glad you could add your unneccesssry input.



Posted where ?



In the original picks posted by Mission. ONM had a slate, updated it, so had sent 2 PMs. Mission146 posted both initially, then later removed the outdated ones, so people saw his first cut at it.
If the House lost every hand, they wouldn't deal the game.
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September 30th, 2019 at 12:50:37 PM permalink
Quote: beachbumbabs

Quote: GWAE

Quote: michael99000

Quote: onenickelmiracle

Quote: beachbumbabs

I went with the Chiefs because they're a great team. We both still lost


onenickelmiracle:
Panthers (+4)-confidence
Browns (+7)
Giants (-3)
Seahawks U 48
Jaguars (+3)

My original set. :(



Ive been keeping track of picks and bets people on this forum tell us they liked after the games are over.

Updated record:

3635783 - 0



Completely untrue.

Btw, his were posted. So glad you could add your unneccesssry input.



I thought it was funny.



He got on my case because I posted that I was starting the baseball betting at 12-2 but I didnt post my picks. So it was untrue as I have at least posted 2 losses.
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September 30th, 2019 at 8:11:17 PM permalink
Week 4 Results

Miplet (1-4)
Steelers OVER 44 (loss)
Saints OVER 47 (loss)
Panthers OVER 47.5 (loss)
Browns OVER 45 (win)
Bills OVER 42.5 (loss)

Mission146 (3-2)
Browns +7 (win)
Patriots -7 (loss)
Seahawks -5 (win)
Cowboys -2.5 (loss)
Steelers -4 (win)

Wizard (2-3)
Browns OVER 45 (win)
Bengals OVER 44 (loss)
Broncos OVER 38 (win)
Bears OVER 38 (loss)
Bills OVER 42.5 (loss)

Kuma (4-2)
Raiders +7 Confidence (win)
Raiders OVER 45 (win)
Chiefs -6.5 (loss)
Jaguars +3 (win)
Bengals +4 (loss)

Rdw4potus (2-3)
Panthers +4 (win)
Ravens - 7 (loss)
Redskins +3 (loss)
Chargers - 15.5 (win)
Colts -7 (loss)

Mwalz9 (2-4)
REDSKINS +3 Confidence (loss)
BEARS -2 (win)
SAINTS +2.5 (win)
PATRIOTS -7 (loss)
CARDINALS +5 (loss)

Beachbumbabs (2-4)
Vikings +2 Confidence (loss)
Saints +2.5 (win)
Rams -9.5 (loss)
Chiefs -6.5 (loss)
Titans +4 (win)

Joeman (3-3)
Rams -9.5 Confidence (loss)
Giants -3 (win)
Ravens -7 (loss)
Seahawks UNDER 48 (win)
Jaguars +3 (win)

MidwestAP (2-4)
Redskins OVER 49.5 (loss)
Patriots -7 (loss)
Titans +4 (win)
Vikings +2 Confidence (loss)
Jaguars +3 (win)

Paradigm (4-2)
Saints +2.5 (win)
Saints OVER 47 (loss)
Lions +6.5 (win)
Cardinals +5 (loss)
Seahawks UNDER 48 Confidence (win)

Genwyzgy (3-3)
Falcons -4 (loss)
Ravens -7 Confidence (loss)
Giants UNDER (win)
Ravens OVER (win)
Bills UNDER (win)

JohnnyQ (5-1)
Lions (+6.5) Confidence (win)
Bears (-2) (win)
Broncos (-3) (loss)
Saints (+2.5) (win)
Steelers (-4) (win)

Ayecarumba (2-4)
Texans -4 (loss)
Dolphins +15.5 (loss)
Chiefs -6.5 (loss)
Vikings OVER 38 (loss)
Bears -2 Confidence (win)

Sparty10k (3-3)
Raiders OVER 45 (win)
Chiefs -6.5 Confidence (loss)
Jaguars +3 (win)
Jaguars OVER 38 (win)
Bengals +4 (loss)

GWAE (3-3)
Texans -4 (loss)
Browns +7 (win)
Dolphins +15.5 (loss)
Chiefs -6.5 (loss)
Steelers -4 Confidence (win)

GordonM888 (2-4)
Texans -4 Confidence (loss)
Chiefs -6.5 (loss)
Titans +4 (win)
Buccaneers +9.5 (win)
Cardinals +5 (loss)

EdCollins (3-3)
Dolphins +15.5 (loss)
Bucs +9.5 Confidence (win)
Bills +7 (win)
Chiefs -6.5 (loss)
Cowboys -2.5 (loss)

onenickelmiracle (3-3)
Browns +7 (win)
Redskins +3 Confidence (loss)
Seahawks UNDER 48 (win)
Jaguars (+3) (win)
Chiefs -6.5 (loss)

Bruce1 (2-4)
Browns OVER 45 (win)
Falcons (-4) Confidence (loss)
Vikings (+2) (loss)
Cowboys UNDER 47 (win)
Bengals (+4) (loss)

SOOPOO (4-2)
Giants-3 Confidence (win)
Browns +7 (win)
Bears-2 (win)
Cowboys-2.5 (loss)
Patriots-7 (loss)

prozema (3-3)
Texans -4 (loss)
Raiders +7 Confidence (win)
Chiefs -6.5 (loss)
Patriots UNDER 42.5 (win)
Jaguars UNDER 38 (loss)

DJATC (2-4)
Giants UNDER 49.5 (win)
Raiders OVER 45 (win)
Jaguars UNDER 38 Confidence (loss)
Bengals +4 (loss)
Bengals OVER 44 (loss)

JW17 (1-5)
Broncos -3 Confidence (loss)
Dolphins +15.5 (loss)
Redskins +3 (loss)
Patriots -7 (loss)
Saints +2.5 (win)

Johnzimbo (1-5)
Texans UNDER 47.5 (win)
Chiefs -6.5 Confidence (loss)
Cardinals +5 (loss)
Vikings +2 (loss)
Bengals OVER 44 (loss)

FourFiveFace (4-2)
Browns +7 (win)
Raiders +7 Confidence (win)
Patriots -7 (loss)
Cardinals +5 (loss)
Saints +2.5 (win)

odiousgambit (2-3)
Redskins +3 (loss)
Seahawks -5 (win)
Cowboys -2.5 (loss)
Chiefs -6.5 (loss)
Jaguars +3 (win)

scolist (3-3)
Giants -3 Confidence (win)
Cowboys -2.5 (loss)
Broncos -3 (loss)
Bengals +4 (loss)
Jaguars OVER 38 (win)

unJon (4-2)
Jaguars +3 Confidence (win)
Patriots OVER 42.5 (loss)
Seahawks -5 (win)
Rams UNDER 49 (loss)
Falcons UNDER 45.5 (win)

IndyJeffrey (3-3)
Ravens -7 Confidence (loss)
Raiders +7 (win)
Titans +4 (win)
Vikings +2 (loss)
Saints +2.5 (win)

PlayYourCardsRight (3-3)
Giants -3 (win)
Colts -7 (loss)
Falcons -4 (loss)
Rams -9.5 (loss)
Bears -2 Confidence (win)

RisingDough (3-3)
Giants -3 Confidence (win)
Dolphins +15.5 (loss)
Chiefs UNDER 55 (loss)
Lions +6.5 (win)
Steelers OVER 44 (loss)

Michael99000 (5-1)
Panthers UNDER 47.5 (win)
Browns OVER 45 (win)
Redskins OVER 49.5 (loss)
Chargers UNDER 44 (win)
Raiders OVER 45 Confidence (win)


Week 4 Current Standings

Name Wins Losses %
SOOPOO 18 6 75.00%
EdCollins 17 7 70.83%
miplet 12 5 70.59%
prozema 16 8 66.67%
unJon 16 8 66.67%
Michael99000 15 8 65.22%
JohnnyQ 14 8 63.64%
MidwestAP 14 8 63.64%
FourFiveFace 15 9 62.50%
Gordonm888 14 10 58.33%
IndyJeffrey 14 10 58.33%
PlayYourCardsRight 14 10 58.33%
Bruce1 9 7 56.25%
DJATC 10 8 55.56%
Romes 10 8 55.56%
Mission146 12 10 54.55%
Joeman 13 11 54.17%
Kuma 13 11 54.17%
Mwalz9 13 11 54.17%
GenWyzgy 12 11 52.17%
scolist 12 11 52.17%
BeachBumBabs 12 12 50.00%
Onenickelmiracle 9 9 50.00%
Paradigm 12 12 50.00%
Sparty10k 12 12 50.00%
Wizard 11 12 47.83%
Ayecarumba 11 13 45.83%
JW17 11 13 45.83%
RisingDough 11 13 45.83%
rdw4potus 9 12 42.86%
Odiousgambit 8 13 38.10%
GWAE 9 15 37.50%
JohnZimbo 9 15 37.50%
Totals 407 336 54.78%


Record of Skip Weeks

Bruce1: Week #1
DJATC: Week #3
miplet: Week #1
Onenickelmiracle: Week #1
Romes: Week #4

Player Ranking Summary thru Week 4

Player Week 1 Week 2 Week 3 Week 4
Ayecarumba
12 (3-3)
22 (3-3)
23 (3-3)
27 (2-4)
BeachBumBabs
7 (4-2)
27 (1-5)
16 (5-1)
22 (2-4)
Bruce1
-
13 (3-2)
6 (4-1)
13 (2-4)
DJATC
21 (2-4)
6 (6-0)
7
14 (2-4)
EdCollins
1 (5-1)
2 (5-1)
2 (4-2)
2 (3-3)
FourFiveFace
21 (2-4)
22 (4-2)
10 (5-1)
9 (4-2)
GenWyzgy
12 (3-3)
14 (4-2)
20 (2-3)
20 (3-3)
Gordonm888
12 (3-3)
14 (4-2)
7 (5-1)
10 (2-4)
GWAE
28 (1-5)
32 (2-4)
33 (3-3)
32 (3-3)
IndyJeffrey
21 (2-4)
14 (5-1)
10 (4-2)
10 (3-3)
Joeman
12 (3-3)
6 (5-1)
16 (2-4)
17 (3-3)
JohnnyQ
1 (5-1)
14 (2-4)
15 (2-2)
7 (5-1)
JohnZimbo
21 (2-4)
6 (6-0)
28 (0-6)
32 (1-5)
JW17
7 (4-2)
6 (4-2)
16 (2-4)
27 (1-5)
Kuma
12 (3-3)
27 (2-4)
23 (4-2)
17 (4-2)
Michael99000
21 (2-4)
14 (5-1)
14 (3-2)
6 (5-1)
MidwestAP
7 (4-2)
6 (4-2)
4 (4-0)
7 (2-4)
miplet
-
1 (6-0)
1 (5-1)
3 (1-4)
Mission146
28 (1-5)
22 (5-1)
20 (3-2)
16 (3-2)
Mwalz9
1 (5-1)
3 (4-2)
10 (2-4)
17 (2-4)
Odiousgambit
28 (1-5)
31 (2-3)
32 (3-2)
31 (2-3)
Onenickelmiracle
-
33 (1-5)
23 (5-1)
22 (3-3)
Paradigm
21 (2-4)
22 (4-2)
28 (2-4)
22 (4-2)
PlayYourCardsRight
12 (3-3)
6 (5-1)
10 (3-3)
10 (3-3)
prozema
7 (4-2)
3 (5-1)
5 (4-2)
4 (3-3)
rdw4potus
12 (3-3)
20 (3-2)
31 (1-4)
30 (2-3)
RisingDough
12 (3-3)
30 (1-5)
28 (4-2)
27 (3-3)
Romes
1 (5-1)
6 (3-3)
16 (2-4)
14
scolist
6 (4-1)
20 (2-4)
20 (3-3)
20 (3-3)
SOOPOO
1 (5-1)
3 (4-2)
2 (5-1)
1 (4-2)
Sparty10k
21 (2-4)
27 (3-3)
23 (4-2)
22 (3-3)
unJon
12 (3-3)
14 (4-2)
7 (5-1)
4 (4-2)
Wizard
7 (4-2)
22 (2-4)
23 (3-3)
26 (2-3)
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September 30th, 2019 at 9:10:41 PM permalink
GWAE 9 15 37.50%
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
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October 1st, 2019 at 3:04:58 AM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

GWAE 9 15 37.50%



So you made a bunch of money fading me?
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October 1st, 2019 at 10:32:17 AM permalink
It's a case of "sure, you say that now" but I decided to go for the "you suck" prize when I made my last pics. If I wander towards the 50-50 prize by accident I might change my mind and go for that.
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October 1st, 2019 at 10:36:05 AM permalink
Dammit forced to use my skip week... Funny enough on one of the online sites I do stuff on they have a weekly "pick 'em" contest and over the whole site (one of the main 5 US player accepting sites) I got 5th w/ 11-4 record.

I will be sure to set up a default, but I also plan to not skip any more weeks!
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October 1st, 2019 at 3:05:08 PM permalink
I'm channeling my inner Phil Ivey, and am offering shares in myself. I am in solo first place, running at a 75% clip. I think first place is like $800? And there is some consolation for second and third place?
Anyway, I will sell the first 3 lucky bidders 20% of my winnings for $30. Looking to lock up $90 and keep a 40% interest for myself.






(I don't have a lot of confidence in my picking ability, as previous years results would show....)
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October 1st, 2019 at 3:56:46 PM permalink
Quote: michael99000



Ive been keeping track of picks and bets people on this forum tell us they liked after the games are over.

Updated record:

3635783 - 0



Yes, but he sent his original picks to me, those were actually 5-0.
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/off-topic/gripes/11182-pet-peeves/120/#post815219
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October 1st, 2019 at 4:01:35 PM permalink
Quote: SOOPOO

I'm channeling my inner Phil Ivey, and am offering shares in myself. I am in solo first place, running at a 75% clip. I think first place is like $800? And there is some consolation for second and third place?
Anyway, I will sell the first 3 lucky bidders 20% of my winnings for $30. Looking to lock up $90 and keep a 40% interest for myself.






(I don't have a lot of confidence in my picking ability, as previous years results would show....)



So you estimate your current odds of winning to be around 6-1
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October 1st, 2019 at 4:07:12 PM permalink
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So you estimate your current odds of winning to be around 6-1



I haven't put that much exact thought into it. I threw it out there, as the chatter is what interests me more than the exact EV or money. I forgot what second and third place pay, if anything. And I think someone put some 4th place prize as well (Golden ratio?)

I think it would be slightly +EV for someone betting with me.
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October 1st, 2019 at 5:17:12 PM permalink
Quote: SOOPOO

I'm channeling my inner Phil Ivey, and am offering shares in myself. I am in solo first place, running at a 75% clip. I think first place is like $800? And there is some consolation for second and third place?
Anyway, I will sell the first 3 lucky bidders 20% of my winnings for $30. Looking to lock up $90 and keep a 40% interest for myself.






(I don't have a lot of confidence in my picking ability, as previous years results would show....)



That's one helluva sales pitch.
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October 1st, 2019 at 5:27:39 PM permalink
Quote: prozema

That's one helluva sales pitch.



I'm an honest fellow. But in a subsequent post I did state that I believe anyone taking me up on the offer is getting +EV.

Also, if they have made mediocre picks so far it gives them another low cost rooting interest.
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October 1st, 2019 at 6:07:35 PM permalink
Quote: SOOPOO

I'm an honest fellow. But in a subsequent post I did state that I believe anyone taking me up on the offer is getting +EV.

Also, if they have made mediocre picks so far it gives them another low cost rooting interest.



For $30 you get a 20% stake in you... That pays:

$160 if you finish first... A $130 win
$20 if you finish second... A $10 loss
$5 if you finish third... A $25 loss
$0 if you finish worse than third... A $30 loss

You know 4th is just two picks behind you right?

Edit: I think you would get more interest if you sold the 20% stake for $13.
Last edited by: prozema on Oct 1, 2019
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October 1st, 2019 at 6:13:09 PM permalink
Quote: GWAE

So you made a bunch of money fading me?

I'm too lazy.
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October 1st, 2019 at 7:19:16 PM permalink
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I'm too lazy.



But not too lazy to troll me ;-)
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October 1st, 2019 at 7:23:39 PM permalink
Quote: prozema

For $30 you get a 20% stake in you... That pays:

$160 if you finish first... A $130 win
$20 if you finish second... A $10 loss
$5 if you finish third... A $25 loss
$0 if you finish worse than third... A $30 loss

You know 4th is just two picks behind you right?

Edit: I think you would get more interest if you sold the 20% stake for $13.



Debating between this and MichaelBluejay’s mortgage debt. I can afford one but not both.
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October 1st, 2019 at 7:34:00 PM permalink
Quote: GWAE

But not too lazy to troll me ;-)

How could I possibly pass up enjoyment served on a silver platter?
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
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October 1st, 2019 at 9:06:18 PM permalink
Quote: GWAE

Quote: michael99000

Quote: onenickelmiracle

Quote: beachbumbabs

I went with the Chiefs because they're a great team. We both still lost


onenickelmiracle:
Panthers (+4)-confidence
Browns (+7)
Giants (-3)
Seahawks U 48
Jaguars (+3)

My original set. :(



Ive been keeping track of picks and bets people on this forum tell us they liked after the games are over.

Updated record:

3635783 - 0



Completely untrue.

Btw, his were posted. So glad you could add your unneccesssry input.

I better not be your girlfriend now. Lol.

Omg I'd be in 1st. This and having my girlfriend repossessed. What a day.
I am a robot.
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October 2nd, 2019 at 2:10:36 PM permalink
Quote: prozema

For $30 you get a 20% stake in you... That pays:

$160 if you finish first... A $130 win
$20 if you finish second... A $10 loss
$5 if you finish third... A $25 loss
$0 if you finish worse than third... A $30 loss

You know 4th is just two picks behind you right?

Edit: I think you would get more interest if you sold the 20% stake for $13.



The modal result for me is first place. I am more likely to win than come in any other specific place.


(Ok... that may be a tad misleading, but it is at least true!)

I think I have at least a 20% chance to win.
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October 2nd, 2019 at 3:34:04 PM permalink
Quote: SOOPOO

The modal result for me is first place. I am more likely to win than come in any other specific place.


(Ok... that may be a tad misleading, but it is at least true!)

I think I have at least a 20% chance to win.



Good point. I now think $4.50 is closer to the correct price.
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October 2nd, 2019 at 3:56:38 PM permalink
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The modal result for me is first place. I am more likely to win than come in any other specific place.


(Ok... that may be a tad misleading, but it is at least true!)

I think I have at least a 20% chance to win.

20% chance to win first, that seems high. Odds are anyone in first after a few weeks will be wearing lipstick and blowing it by the end of the year.
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October 2nd, 2019 at 7:23:55 PM permalink
Interim results after 4 week's games for BBB sidebets.

Closest to Pi: SOOPOO

Warp Speed (x-0): Miplet, DJATC, JohnZimbo, MidwestAP*

Carbonite Storage (0-x): no qualified candidates.

*Note: I did not consider pushes in determining qualifying weeks. My focus and intent was in celebrating the zero week. Because of that, I am announcing the following rule clarification.

Any week in the latter 2 prizes will qualify for recognition if it includes zero wins or zero losses. Most weeks with a zero wins.

1st tiebreaker will be total number of games on the other end of the zero.

2nd tiebreaker will be overall win percentage.

Skip weeks and forfeits do not qualify. Played weeks do, even if the player later quits the game.
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October 3rd, 2019 at 9:19:10 PM permalink
I didn't miss week 5 lines yet did I?
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October 4th, 2019 at 3:35:20 AM permalink
EDIT: Sorry about the delay! Won’t happen again! I didn’t realize I could copy pages with my phone!
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October 4th, 2019 at 3:38:05 AM permalink
Greetings! The Week 5 Lines are as follows:

Ravens (-3) @ Steelers (+3) O/U 44.5
Bears (-5) @ Raiders (+5) O/U 40
Cardinals (+3) @ Bengals (-3) O/U 47
Jaguars (+3.5) @ Panthers (-3.5) O/U 40
Vikings (-5) @ Giants (+5) O/U 43.5
Patriots (-15.5) @ Redskins (+15.5) O/U 42
Jets (+13.5) @ Eagles (-13.5) O/U 44
Buccaneers (+3) @ Saints (-3) O/U 46.5
Falcons (+4) @ Texans (-4) O/U 50
Bills (+3) @ Titans (-3) O/U 38.5
Broncos (+6) @ Chargers (-6) O/U 44.5
Packers (+3) @ Cowboys (-3) O/U 47
Colts (+11) @ Chiefs (-11) O/U 56
Browns (-4) @ 49ers (+4) O/U 46
Last edited by: Mission146 on Oct 4, 2019
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October 4th, 2019 at 5:03:52 AM permalink
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Greetings! The Week 5 Lines are as follows:

Bears (-5) @ Raiders (+5) O/U 40
Cardinals (+3) @ Bengals (-3) O/U 47
Jaguars (-) @ Panthers (+) O/U
Vikings (-5) @ Giants (+5) O/U 43.5
Patriots (-15.5) @ Redskins (+15.5) O/U 42
Jets (+13.5) @ Eagles (-13.5) O/U 44
Buccaneers (+3) @ Saints (-3) O/U 46.5
Falcons (-) @ Texans (+) O/U
Bills (+3) @ Titans (-3) O/U 38.5
Broncos (+6) @ Chargers (-6) O/U 44.5
Packers (+3) @ Cowboys (-3) O/U 47
Colts (+11) @ Chiefs (-11) O/U 56
Browns (-4) @ 49ers (+4) O/U 46



So there are two games without lines? Or over under lines as well? I think you should make that clear rather than posting team names with no numbers. Thanks.
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October 4th, 2019 at 5:10:47 AM permalink
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So there are two games without lines? Or over under lines as well? I think you should make that clear rather than posting team names with no numbers. Thanks.

Both of those games have odds at VegasInsider, where I think Mission gets his information. I think it’s a glitch but Mission should clarify.
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October 4th, 2019 at 7:30:12 AM permalink
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Greetings! The Week 5 Lines are as follows:

Bears (-5) @ Raiders (+5) O/U 40
Cardinals (+3) @ Bengals (-3) O/U 47
Jaguars (-) @ Panthers (+) O/U
Vikings (-5) @ Giants (+5) O/U 43.5
Patriots (-15.5) @ Redskins (+15.5) O/U 42
Jets (+13.5) @ Eagles (-13.5) O/U 44
Buccaneers (+3) @ Saints (-3) O/U 46.5
Falcons (-) @ Texans (+) O/U
Bills (+3) @ Titans (-3) O/U 38.5
Broncos (+6) @ Chargers (-6) O/U 44.5
Packers (+3) @ Cowboys (-3) O/U 47
Colts (+11) @ Chiefs (-11) O/U 56
Browns (-4) @ 49ers (+4) O/U 46



Ravens @ Steelers game? Its missing. Another glitch, I guess.
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October 4th, 2019 at 10:03:40 AM permalink
Quote: Mission146

Greetings! The Week 5 Lines are as follows:

Ravens (-3) @ Steelers (+3) O/U 44.5
Bears (-5) @ Raiders (+5) O/U 40
Cardinals (+3) @ Bengals (-3) O/U 47
Jaguars (+3.5) @ Panthers (-3.5) O/U 40
Vikings (-5) @ Giants (+5) O/U 43.5
Patriots (-15.5) @ Redskins (+15.5) O/U 42
Jets (+13.5) @ Eagles (-13.5) O/U 44
Buccaneers (+3) @ Saints (-3) O/U 46.5
Falcons (+4) @ Texans (-4) O/U 50
Bills (+3) @ Titans (-3) O/U 38.5
Broncos (+6) @ Chargers (-6) O/U 44.5
Packers (+3) @ Cowboys (-3) O/U 47
Colts (+11) @ Chiefs (-11) O/U 56
Browns (-4) @ 49ers (+4) O/U 46



I've edited the quote to include missing lines.
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October 4th, 2019 at 1:29:51 PM permalink
Quote: Mission146


Greetings! The Week 5 Lines are as follows:

Ravens (-3) @ Steelers (+3) O/U 44.5
Bears (-5) @ Raiders (+5) O/U 40
Cardinals (+3) @ Bengals (-3) O/U 47
Jaguars (+3.5) @ Panthers (-3.5) O/U 40
Vikings (-5) @ Giants (+5) O/U 43.5
Patriots (-15.5) @ Redskins (+15.5) O/U 42
Jets (+13.5) @ Eagles (-13.5) O/U 44
Buccaneers (+3) @ Saints (-3) O/U 46.5
Falcons (+4) @ Texans (-4) O/U 50
Bills (+3) @ Titans (-3) O/U 38.5
Broncos (+6) @ Chargers (-6) O/U 44.5
Packers (+3) @ Cowboys (-3) O/U 47
Colts (+11) @ Chiefs (-11) O/U 56
Browns (-4) @ 49ers (+4) O/U 46

Is the point spread reversed on the Browns/49ers game? Las Vegas Insider is showing the 49ers as 4 point favorites.
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October 4th, 2019 at 2:10:14 PM permalink
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Browns (-4) @ 49ers (+4) O/U 46

Is the point spread reversed on the Browns/49ers game? Las Vegas Insider is showing the 49ers as 4 point favorites.



I agree. This should be SF -4 . That said...
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October 4th, 2019 at 2:30:07 PM permalink
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Quote: Joeman

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Browns (-4) @ 49ers (+4) O/U 46

Is the point spread reversed on the Browns/49ers game? Las Vegas Insider is showing the 49ers as 4 point favorites.



I agree. This should be SF -4 . That said...

. I hope Mission fixes this. It is not in the spirit of the game to take advantage of sleepy typos. At the end of the season I like to see how the group has done overall. Giving an extra 8 points crossing both 3's makes the stats at the end of the year rubbish.

Since this is a competition I will be forced to take SF +4 if it stays that way. 70% it wins.
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October 4th, 2019 at 3:18:05 PM permalink
Quote: SOOPOO

Quote: IndyJeffrey

Quote: Joeman

Quote: Mission146



Browns (-4) @ 49ers (+4) O/U 46

Is the point spread reversed on the Browns/49ers game? Las Vegas Insider is showing the 49ers as 4 point favorites.



I agree. This should be SF -4 . That said...

. I hope Mission fixes this. It is not in the spirit of the game to take advantage of sleepy typos. At the end of the season I like to see how the group has done overall. Giving an extra 8 points crossing both 3's makes the stats at the end of the year rubbish.



Since this is a competition I will be forced to take SF +4 if it stays that way. 70% it wins.



Ed has said before, he doesn't care what the + or - value is. He plugs in the line for all teams for that week, then when our picks are posted, he just inputs the teams, not the spread. Same with over/under.

That said, I'm waiting for Mission to fix these lines before I put in a set of picks. I would appreciate the right to stay in the ONM Friday pick pool if the picks don't get fixed fast enough, and I would hope that's universal, but I guess ONM would have a say in that, too.
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October 4th, 2019 at 3:55:44 PM permalink
Ravens (-3) @ Steelers (+3) O/U 44.5
Bears (-5) @ Raiders (+5) O/U 40
Cardinals (+3) @ Bengals (-3) O/U 47
Jaguars (+3.5) @ Panthers (-3.5) O/U 40
Vikings (-5) @ Giants (+5) O/U 43.5
Patriots (-15.5) @ Redskins (+15.5) O/U 42
Jets (+13.5) @ Eagles (-13.5) O/U 44
Buccaneers (+3) @ Saints (-3) O/U 46.5
Falcons (+4) @ Texans (-4) O/U 50
Bills (+3) @ Titans (-3) O/U 38.5
Broncos (+6) @ Chargers (-6) O/U 44.5
Packers (+3) @ Cowboys (-3) O/U 47
Colts (+11) @ Chiefs (-11) O/U 56
Browns (-4) @ 49ers (+4) O/U 46

These will be the lines, it is what it is. I think I might have messed up the Browns game putting that in manually because I noticed that there were not Lines from that one. Aside from that, it's just what the converter on Miplet's site put. Maybe something to do with that I did it from my phone?

I wasn't sleepy, though, lol...just trying to go too quickly. I'd been awake for two hours.

Anyway, I'm sorry, I had a bunch of places to go and would be volunteering until 12:30, no access to an actual computer until 1:00, so that's what happened. I'll edit my post in this and the Official thread with the information above. I'll make sure to do it from a computer from now on.

As far as end of the year standings, just exclude that game.
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October 4th, 2019 at 4:04:46 PM permalink
Miplet's site worked fine from my computer, but I definitely did it on my phone using the same process. I have as much computer knowledge as a toilet seat, but I'm just going to chalk it up to doing it from my phone.
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October 4th, 2019 at 4:40:13 PM permalink
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Browns (-4) @ 49ers (+4) O/U 46

These will be the lines, it is what it is. I think I might have messed up the Browns game putting that in manually because I noticed that there were not Lines from that one. Aside from that, it's just what the converter on Miplet's site put. Maybe something to do with that I did it from my phone?

As far as end of the year standings, just exclude that game.



"As far as end of the year standings, just exclude that game." What does this mean?

If we pick 49ers +4, and we win does that mean that our win in this game does not count in final standings?

If we pick 49ers +4, and we lose does our loss in this game count in final standings?

What if we pick the Browns -4 and we win? Or we lose? Do those games count in the final standings?

I imagine that some persons may have already submitted picks and perhaps have picked 49ers +4. Do those picks count?

I feel a sense of creeping confusion and chaos.
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October 4th, 2019 at 4:47:12 PM permalink
So everyone is taking 49ers +4 as their confidence pick this week?
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October 4th, 2019 at 5:19:33 PM permalink
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Quote: Mission146

Browns (-4) @ 49ers (+4) O/U 46

These will be the lines, it is what it is. I think I might have messed up the Browns game putting that in manually because I noticed that there were not Lines from that one. Aside from that, it's just what the converter on Miplet's site put. Maybe something to do with that I did it from my phone?

As far as end of the year standings, just exclude that game.



"As far as end of the year standings, just exclude that game." What does this mean?

If we pick 49ers +4, and we win does that mean that our win in this game does not count in final standings?

If we pick 49ers +4, and we lose does our loss in this game count in final standings?

What if we pick the Browns -4 and we win? Or we lose? Do those games count in the final standings?

I imagine that some persons may have already submitted picks and perhaps have picked 49ers +4. Do those picks count?

I feel a sense of creeping confusion and chaos.



There should be a special trophy for anyone who picks the Browns -4 and makes it their Confidence pick.
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October 4th, 2019 at 5:24:32 PM permalink
Quote: michael99000

Quote: gordonm888

Quote: Mission146

Browns (-4) @ 49ers (+4) O/U 46

These will be the lines, it is what it is. I think I might have messed up the Browns game putting that in manually because I noticed that there were not Lines from that one. Aside from that, it's just what the converter on Miplet's site put. Maybe something to do with that I did it from my phone?

As far as end of the year standings, just exclude that game.



"As far as end of the year standings, just exclude that game." What does this mean?

If we pick 49ers +4, and we win does that mean that our win in this game does not count in final standings?

If we pick 49ers +4, and we lose does our loss in this game count in final standings?

What if we pick the Browns -4 and we win? Or we lose? Do those games count in the final standings?

I imagine that some persons may have already submitted picks and perhaps have picked 49ers +4. Do those picks count?

I feel a sense of creeping confusion and chaos.



There should be a special trophy for anyone who picks the Browns -4 and makes it their Confidence pick.



I might so it with hopes of keeping my bottom spot
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October 4th, 2019 at 5:36:05 PM permalink
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Quote: Mission146

Browns (-4) @ 49ers (+4) O/U 46

These will be the lines, it is what it is. I think I might have messed up the Browns game putting that in manually because I noticed that there were not Lines from that one. Aside from that, it's just what the converter on Miplet's site put. Maybe something to do with that I did it from my phone?

As far as end of the year standings, just exclude that game.



"As far as end of the year standings, just exclude that game." What does this mean?

If we pick 49ers +4, and we win does that mean that our win in this game does not count in final standings?

If we pick 49ers +4, and we lose does our loss in this game count in final standings?

What if we pick the Browns -4 and we win? Or we lose? Do those games count in the final standings?

I imagine that some persons may have already submitted picks and perhaps have picked 49ers +4. Do those picks count?

I feel a sense of creeping confusion and chaos.



SOOPOO said he likes to see how we do at the end, I’m saying just don’t include this game for that reason. One time VI actually had a clearly erroneous line that I didn’t catch. Hardly unprecedented.

The pick counts as far as the game is concerned.
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October 4th, 2019 at 9:15:32 PM permalink
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Quote: michael99000

Quote: gordonm888

Quote: Mission146

Browns (-4) @ 49ers (+4) O/U 46

These will be the lines, it is what it is. I think I might have messed up the Browns game putting that in manually because I noticed that there were not Lines from that one. Aside from that, it's just what the converter on Miplet's site put. Maybe something to do with that I did it from my phone?

As far as end of the year standings, just exclude that game.



"As far as end of the year standings, just exclude that game." What does this mean?

If we pick 49ers +4, and we win does that mean that our win in this game does not count in final standings?

If we pick 49ers +4, and we lose does our loss in this game count in final standings?

What if we pick the Browns -4 and we win? Or we lose? Do those games count in the final standings?

I imagine that some persons may have already submitted picks and perhaps have picked 49ers +4. Do those picks count?

I feel a sense of creeping confusion and chaos.



There should be a special trophy for anyone who picks the Browns -4 and makes it their Confidence pick.



I might so it with hopes of keeping my bottom spot

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October 4th, 2019 at 10:14:02 PM permalink
Im still confused. Naturally i took SF +4, what a bargain, almost got scared Jimmy G was hurt. This has to count, lines are lines, post them, they're final. If you dont read from the list, you should, these are the official lines to choose from. How can a pick be a pick, if it doesnt count as a pick in the end of year standings? Everyone has an opportunity to still take SF+4 right now. Changing mine to confidence right now.
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October 5th, 2019 at 3:34:33 AM permalink
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Browns (-4) @ 49ers (+4) O/U 46

These will be the lines, it is what it is.



I agree. It is what it is. Everyone has the same opportunity to pick or not. Confidence or not. And we all know the Browns will end up covering the four...
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October 5th, 2019 at 6:36:31 AM permalink
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And we all know the Browns will end up covering the four...



That is an absolute certainty.
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October 5th, 2019 at 7:30:04 AM permalink
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I agree. It is what it is. Everyone has the same opportunity to pick or not. Confidence or not. And we all know the Browns will end up covering the four...



30% chance. Approximately.

This will be an interesting week.
There may be some who are close to the bottom that see Browns -4 as an opportunity to try and secure last place.
There may be some mid pack that know the frontrunners will be taking the 49ers and see an opportunity to pick up 2 games on all of them by taking the Browns.
There may be a 'hedger' who will pick the 49ers but not as a confidence pick.

Before this error, I was going to take Browns +4 as my confidence pick. I think they just have so much talent, and talent usually (eventually?) wins out.

But I guess I'll have to take the free 8 points and go 49ers +4.
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October 5th, 2019 at 8:11:05 AM permalink
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...There may be some who are close to the bottom that see Browns -4 as an opportunity to try and secure last place. There may be some mid pack that know the frontrunners will be taking the 49ers and see an opportunity to pick up 2 games on all of them by taking the Browns. There may be a 'hedger' who will pick the 49ers but not as a confidence pick...

Excellent observations.
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