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December 15th, 2018 at 5:21:51 AM permalink
This is a link to the Google ncaa bowl list, posted for convenience. (Scroll down a little)

https://www.google.com/search?q=ncaa+bowl+schedule&oq=ncaa+bowl&aqs=chrome.1.69i57j0l2j69i61l2j0.9232j1j7&client=ms-android-hms-tmobile-us&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8#sie=lg;/g/11gd7078vy;6;/m/012hfxch;mt;fp;1;;

Lines as posted by troopscott:

Tulane (-3) vs. Louisiana
North Texas vs. Utah State (-9)
Fresno State (-4.5) vs. Arizona State
Georgia Southern (-1) vs. Eastern Michigan
Middle Tennessee vs. Appalachian State (-7)
UAB (-2.5) vs. Northern Illinois
San Diego State vs. Ohio (-3)
Marshall (-2.5) vs. South Florida
Florida International vs. Toledo (-6)
Western Michigan vs. BYU (-12.5)
Memphis (-5) vs. Wake Forest
Houston vs. Army (-3)
Buffalo (-2.5) vs. Troy
Hawaii (-1.5) vs. Louisiana Tech
Boston College vs. Boise State (-3)
Minnesota vs. Georgia Tech (-4)
California vs. TCU (Pick)
Duke vs. Temple (-3)
Miami (-4) vs. Wisconsin
Baylor vs. Vanderbilt (-3.5)
Purdue vs. Auburn (-4)
West Virginia (-7) vs. Syracuse
Iowa State vs. Washington State (-3.5)
Florida vs. Michigan (-7.5)
South Carolina (-4) vs. Virginia
Arkansas State (-1) vs. Nevada
Notre Dame vs. Clemson (-11.5)
Oklahoma vs. Alabama (-14)
Cincinnati (-5.5) vs. Virginia Tech
Stanford (-6.5) vs. Pittsburgh
Michigan State vs. Oregon (-2.5)
Missouri (-7.5) vs. Oklahoma State
Northwestern vs. Utah (-6.5)
NC State vs. Texas A&M (-4.5)
Mississippi State (-6) vs. Iowa
LSU (-7.5) vs. UCF
Kentucky vs. Penn State (-6)
Washington vs. Ohio State (-6.5)
Texas vs. Georgia (-11)

Tiebreaker: Total Points in Championship Game is:
Last edited by: beachbumbabs on Dec 15, 2018
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December 15th, 2018 at 6:38:15 AM permalink
My vote is to continue the contest with the assumption Troopscott will do what he said.

I do not think it will be fair to let people withdraw after the first game is decided.
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December 15th, 2018 at 6:41:25 AM permalink
Quote: beachbumbabs

I have a copy of all picks except from EdCollins, who said before he might be out without troopscott's bonus.

I would suggest to Ed that he send them to me or post them just to hold his place, without him or anyone giving up their right to withdraw for a refund, pending hearing something from troopscott.

Done. I forwarded my picks to you, that I originally sent to Troopscott on Thursday.
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December 15th, 2018 at 6:47:22 AM permalink
Quote: DRich

My vote is to continue the contest with the assumption Troopscott will do what he said.

I do not think it will be fair to let people withdraw after the first game is decided.



I'm leaning towards your first paragraph, not really agreeing with your second, but not sure what to do about it. I'm suggesting people could perhaps withdraw through tomorrow night if troopscott is still a no-show by then, all are locked in if he does show.

One problem I have is that nobody has troopscotts picks or money in escrow. I'm on the fence about whether he should be required to seed the pool if he's not able to play. But I do think he made a firm committment to provide the seed bonus. Open to discussion.

Right now there's $200 in fees in escrow. 4 prizes.

1st Prize = 65% of entries + $50.00 =$130 + $50
2nd Prize = 15% of entries = $30
3rd Prize = 10% of entries = $20
Booby Prize = 10% of entries + $50.00 = $20 + $50
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December 15th, 2018 at 6:55:18 AM permalink
Quote: beachbumbabs

Placeholder notes:

Standing by to hear from:

Ed Collins re: above
Gordonm888 bowl list copy incomplete - PM sent
Tom - missing tiebreaker



Hopefully Gordo' s missing picks are for games later in the schedule.

Troop's a contender for a prize in Mission's NFL contest, and has been good about posting there. I do hope everything is okay with him, as this radio silence seems out of the ordinary for him.

Thanks for picking up the pieces BBB!
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December 15th, 2018 at 7:02:25 AM permalink
Quote: Ayecarumba

Hopefully Gordo' s missing picks are for games later in the schedule.

Troop's a contender for a prize in Mission's NFL contest, and has been good about posting there. I do hope everything is okay with him, as this radio silence seems out of the ordinary for him.

Thanks for picking up the pieces BBB!



I agree. I think there's a problem.

There's an outside chance he's messing with us, because he did a bit in the coop game, and just watching this thread without signing in. But I'm more concerned than thinking we're being punked.

Gordo gave me a complete list through some of Dec 29. I'm pretty sure it's a copy/paste error, and I expect to amend the picks post once he sees this thread and fixes it, even it it's a bit late. The same deadline of midnight tomorrow ought to be sufficient, but again open to discussion.
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December 15th, 2018 at 7:06:38 AM permalink
I am giving my proxy to BBB. Whatever she decides, I am good with.
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December 15th, 2018 at 7:06:46 AM permalink
Quote: beachbumbabs

I'm leaning towards your first paragraph, not really agreeing with your second, but not sure what to do about it. I'm suggesting people could perhaps withdraw through tomorrow night if troopscott is still a no-show by then, all are locked in if he does show.

One problem I have is that nobody has troopscotts picks or money in escrow. I'm on the fence about whether he should be required to seed the pool if he's not able to play. But I do think he made a firm committment to provide the seed bonus. Open to discussion.

Right now there's $200 in fees in escrow. 4 prizes.

1st Prize = 65% of entries + $50.00 =$130 + $50
2nd Prize = 15% of entries = $30
3rd Prize = 10% of entries = $20
Booby Prize = 10% of entries + $50.00 = $20 + $50



Is there a way to verify that the picks sent to Troop are still unopened? If so, then his entry should be allowed until the first game goes off. Otherwise, it would be pretty easy to lock in the best or worst record by fading the group picks.

Personally, I think we hold him to his commitment to provide bonus money, even if he doesn't get his picks in. However, I am willing to consider the extenuating circumstances.
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December 15th, 2018 at 7:10:37 AM permalink
Quote: Ayecarumba

Is there a way to verify that the picks sent to Troop are still unopened? If so, then his entry should be allowed until the first game goes off. Otherwise, it would be pretty easy to lock in the best or worst record by fading the group picks.

Personally, I think we hold him to his commitment to provide bonus money, even if he doesn't get his picks in. However, I am willing to consider the extenuating circumstances.



Each of you can look at your outbox. It will show whether what you sent to troopscott was opened by him.

I was waiting for an answer to "who is holding the picks?" before I sent mine, so I didn't send to troopscott, and can't verify on my own PM what he's done. But, he hasn't signed in since Dec 7. If he hasn't signed in, he hasn't read any PMs. So I would bet no one's picks have been seen by him.
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December 15th, 2018 at 7:15:18 AM permalink
Picks, 2 hours after i said i would post them in 2 hours. Lol....EDIT: all picks received.

*******

EdCollins:

Tulane
North Texas
Arizona State
Georgia Southern
Middle Tennessee
UAB
Ohio
Marshall
Florida International
Western Michigan
Wake Forest
Army
Buffalo
Hawaii
Boise State
Georgia Tech
TCU
Temple
Wisconsin
Baylor
Purdue
Syracuse
Iowa State
Florida
Virginia
Arkansas State
Notre Dame
Oklahoma
Virginia Tech
Pittsburgh
Oregon
Oklahoma State
Northwestern
NC State
Iowa
UCF
Kentucky
Washington
Texas

*******

TomG

Tulane -3
North Texas +9
Fresno State -4.5
Georgia Southern -1
Middle Tennessee +7
UAB -2.5
San Diego State +3
Marshall -2.5
Toledo -6
Western Michigan +12.5
Wake Forest +5
Army -3
Troy +2.5
Louisiana Tech +1.5
Boston College +3
Georgia Tech -4
California pk
Temple -3
Wisconsin +4
Vanderbilt -3.5
Purdue +4
Syracuse +7
Iowa State +3.5
Michigan -7.5
South Carolina -4
Arkansas State -1
Clemson -11.5
Oklahoma +14
Cincinnati -5.5
Stanford -6.5
Oregon -2.5
Missouri -7.5
Utah -6.5
Texas A&M -4.5
Mississippi State -6
UCF +7.5
Penn State -6
Ohio State -6.5
Georgia -11

********

Gordonm888

Cure Bowl: Tulane -3
New Mexico Bowl: North Texas +9
Las Vegas Bowl: Fresno State -4.5
Camellia Bowl: Georgia Southern -1
New Orleans Bowl: Middle Tennessee +7

Tuesday, December 18
Boca Raton Bowl: UAB -2.5

Wednesday, December 19
Frisco Bowl: San Diego State +3

Thursday, December 20
Gasparilla Bowl: Marshall -2.5

Friday, December 21
Bahamas Bowl: Toledo -6
Idaho Potato Bowl: Western Michigan +12.5

Saturday, December 22
Birmingham Bowl: Wake Forest +5
Armed Forces Bowl: Army -3
Dollar General Bowl: Troy +2.5
Hawaii Bowl: Hawaii -1.5

Wednesday, December 26
First Responder Bowl: Boise State -3
Quick Lane Bowl: Georgia Tech -4
Cheez-It Bowl: TCU (PICK)

Thursday, December 27
Independence Bowl: Duke +3
Pinstripe Bowl: Wisconsin +4
Texas Bowl: Vanderbilt -3.5

Friday, December 28
Music City Bowl: Auburn -4
Camping World Bowl: Syracuse +7
Alamo Bowl: Washington State -3.5

Saturday, December 29
Peach Bowl: Michigan -7.5
Belk Bowl: South Carolina -4
Arizona Bowl: Nevada +1
Cotton Bowl (Playoff Semifinal): Clemson-11.5
Orange Bowl (Playoff Semifinal): Alabama -14

Monday, December 31
Military Bowl: Cincinnati (-5.5)
Sun Bowl: Stanford (-6.5)
Redbox Bowl: Oregon -2.5
Liberty Bowl: Oklahoma State +7.5
Holiday Bowl: Northwestern +6.5
Gator Bowl: Texas A&M -4.5

Tuesday, January 1
Outback Bowl: Mississippi State -6
Fiesta Bowl: UCF +7.5
Citrus Bowl: Penn State -6
Rose Bowl: Washington +6.5
Sugar Bowl: Georgia -11

*******

Onenicklemiracle

Tulane (-3)
Utah State (-9)
Fresno State (-4.5)
Georgia Southern (-1)
Middle Tennessee
Northern Illinois
San Diego State
Marshall (-2.5)
Toledo (-6)
BYU (-12.5)
Wake Forest
Army (-3)
Buffalo (-2.5)
Hawaii (-1.5)
Boston College
Minnesota
California
Temple (-3)
Wisconsin
Baylor
Auburn (-4)
Syracuse
Iowa State
Florida
South Carolina (-4)
Arkansas State (-1)
Notre Dame
Alabama (-14)
Virginia Tech
Stanford (-6.5)
Oregon (-2.5)
Oklahoma State
Utah (-6.5)
Texas A&M (-4.5)
Iowa
LSU (-7.5)
Kentucky
Ohio State (-6.5)
Georgia (-11)

*******

Ayecarumba's Bowl PIcks

Tulane
North Texas
Fresno State
Georgia Southern
Appalachian State
Northern Illinois
Ohio
South Florida
Toledo
BYU
Memphis
Houston
Troy
Louisiana Tech
Boise State
Georgia Tech
California
Temple
Miami
Baylor
Auburn
Syracuse
Iowa State
Michigan
South Carolina
Arkansas State
Notre Dame
Oklahoma
Cincinnati
Pittsburgh
Oregon
Oklahoma State
Utah
Texas A&M
Mississippi State
LSU
Penn State
Ohio State
Georgia

*******

JohnnyQ

Tulane (-3)
Utah State (-9)
Arizona State
Eastern Michigan
Appalachian State (-7)
Northern Illinois
Ohio (-3)
South Florida
Toledo (-6)
Western Michigan
Memphis (-5)
Army (-3)
Buffalo (-2.5)
Hawaii (-1.5)
Boise State (-3)
Georgia Tech (-4)
TCU (Pick)
Duke
Miami (-4)
Vanderbilt (-3.5)
Purdue
West Virginia (-7)
Washington State (-3.5)
Michigan (-7.5)
South Carolina (-4)
Arkansas State (-1)
Notre Dame
Alabama (-14)
Virginia Tech
Stanford (-6.5)
Michigan State
Missouri (-7.5)
Northwestern
Texas A&M (-4.5)
Iowa
LSU (-7.5)
Penn State (-6)
Ohio State (-6.5)
Georgia (-11)

********

Drich

Tulane (-3)
Utah State (-9)
Arizona State
Georgia Southern (-1)
Appalachian State (-7)
Northern Illinois
San Diego State
South Florida
Toledo (-6)
Western Michigan
Wake Forest
Houston
Buffalo (-2.5)
Hawaii (-1.5)
Boise State (-3)
Minnesota
TCU (Pick)
Duke
Wisconsin
Baylor
Purdue
Syracuse
Iowa State
Michigan (-7.5)
Virginia
Arkansas State (-1)
Clemson (-11.5)
Oklahoma
Virginia Tech
Pittsburgh
Oregon (-2.5)
Oklahoma State
Northwestern
Texas A&M (-4.5)
Iowa
LSU (-7.5)
Penn State (-6)
Ohio State (-6.5)
Texas

*******

Beachbumbabs

Tulane (-3)
Utah State (-9)
Fresno State (-4.5)
Georgia Southern (-1)
Appalachian State (-7)
UAB (-2.5)
Ohio (-3)
Marshall (-2.5)
Toledo (-6)
BYU (-12.5)
Memphis (-5)
Army (-3)
Buffalo (-2.5)
Hawaii (-1.5)
Boise State (-3)
Georgia Tech (-4)
California (Pick)
Temple (-3)
Miami (-4)
Vanderbilt (-3.5)
Auburn (-4)
West Virginia (-7)
Washington State (-3.5)
Michigan (-7.5)
South Carolina (-4)
Arkansas State (-1)
Clemson (-11.5)
Alabama (-14)
Cincinnati (-5.5)
Stanford (-6.5)
Oregon (-2.5)
Missouri (-7.5)
Utah (-6.5)
Texas A&M (-4.5)
Mississippi State (-6)
LSU (-7.5)
Penn State (-6)
Ohio State (-6.5)
Georgia (-11)
Last edited by: beachbumbabs on Dec 15, 2018
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December 15th, 2018 at 7:15:30 AM permalink
Quote: Ayecarumba

Is there a way to verify that the picks sent to Troop are still unopened? If so, then his entry should be allowed until the first game goes off. Otherwise, it would be pretty easy to lock in the best or worst record by fading the group picks.



Although you are correct that he could do that, I wouldn't expect that of the person who is contributing $100 to the pot. The biggest prize would be $180 of which he contributed $125.
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December 15th, 2018 at 7:17:29 AM permalink
As for Gordon's missing picks: as long as he gets them in before the pick starts would be fine, but how long to wait before posting everyone else's?

Edit: oops, slow post. Does Gordon possibly benefit from seeing everyone else's picks?
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December 15th, 2018 at 7:20:19 AM permalink
I am willing to bet that BBB put the least time into her picks. Picked every favorite.
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December 15th, 2018 at 7:21:37 AM permalink
BBB, did you forget to post the tiebreakers or are you just waiting?
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December 15th, 2018 at 8:33:27 AM permalink
I held back the tiebreakers, but I do have them. I'll post them now, if you want.

I know for a fact that whoever set these lines knows more than I do.

I have observed, however, that college games tend to run up the score, so I think the spread will be wider than predicted in many cases. So I took all favs.

Gordo does not have it within him to fade our picks due to his error. If I thought he could, I would have truncated everyone for now. But he couldn't occupy such high moral ground here as he does, and then cheat. :)
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December 15th, 2018 at 9:47:46 AM permalink
Quote: DRich

I am willing to bet that BBB put the least time into her picks. Picked every favorite.

I suspect I spend the next least amount of time. I picked every favorite if they were favored by 3 points or less. I picked every dog if they were an underdog by 3.5 points or more.

Again, I don't follow college ball... I know nothing about any of the teams.
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December 15th, 2018 at 10:29:05 AM permalink
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I know nothing about any of the teams.

39 games, 78 teams. If anyone knows something about all of the teams, then they need to get out more.
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December 15th, 2018 at 10:48:11 AM permalink
Quote: JohnnyQ

39 games, 78 teams. If anyone knows something about all of the teams, then they need to get out more.



I watch 3 or 4 college football games every Saturday but I still don't claim to know much.
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December 15th, 2018 at 12:48:13 PM permalink
I am sorry, I did make a copy and paste error on my list; I subsequently sent all the post -Dec 28 games to Babs.
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December 15th, 2018 at 12:54:51 PM permalink
I noticed on these two picks I did not crop the lines.


Military Bowl: Cincinnati (-5.5) vs. Virginia Tech (noon, ESPN)
Sun Bowl: Stanford (-6.5) vs. Pittsburgh (2 p.m., CBS)

I was picking Cincinnati (-5.5) and Stanford (-6.5) which is exactly what it says. However, I'll understand if you want to declare those picks as invalid.
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December 15th, 2018 at 8:12:41 PM permalink
Quote: gordonm888

I noticed on these two picks I did not crop the lines.


Military Bowl: Cincinnati (-5.5) vs. Virginia Tech (noon, ESPN)
Sun Bowl: Stanford (-6.5) vs. Pittsburgh (2 p.m., CBS)

I was picking Cincinnati (-5.5) and Stanford (-6.5) which is exactly what it says. However, I'll understand if you want to declare those picks as invalid.



Both games are more than 2 weeks out. I made the edits.
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December 16th, 2018 at 5:18:52 AM permalink
Dec 15
Tulane (-3) vs. Louisiana
Tulane 41 Louisiana 24. TULANE

North Texas vs. Utah State (-9)
North Texas 13 Utah State 52 UTAH STATE

Fresno State (-4.5) vs. Arizona State
Fresno State 31 AZ State 20. FRESNO STATE

Georgia Southern (-1) vs. Eastern Michigan
GA So 23 E Mich 21. GEORGIA SOUTHERN

Middle Tennessee vs. Appalachian State (-7)
Mid Tenn 13 App St 45 APPALACHIAN STATE

Dec 18
UAB (-2.5) vs. Northern Illinois

Dec 19
San Diego State vs. Ohio (-3)

Dec 20
Marshall (-2.5) vs. South Florida

Dec 21
Florida International vs. Toledo (-6)
Western Michigan vs. BYU (-12.5)

Dec 22
Memphis (-5) vs. Wake Forest
Houston vs. Army (-3)
Buffalo (-2.5) vs. Troy
Hawaii (-1.5) vs. Louisiana Tech

Dec 26
Boston College vs. Boise State (-3)
Minnesota vs. Georgia Tech (-4)
California vs. TCU (Pick)

Dec 27
Duke vs. Temple (-3)
Miami (-4) vs. Wisconsin
Baylor vs. Vanderbilt (-3.5)

Dec 28
Purdue vs. Auburn (-4)
West Virginia (-7) vs. Syracuse
Iowa State vs. Washington State (-3.5)

Dec 29
Florida vs. Michigan (-7.5)
South Carolina (-4) vs. Virginia
Arkansas State (-1) vs. Nevada
Notre Dame vs. Clemson (-11.5)
Oklahoma vs. Alabama (-14)

Dec 31
Cincinnati (-5.5) vs. Virginia Tech
Stanford (-6.5) vs. Pittsburgh
Michigan State vs. Oregon (-2.5)
Missouri (-7.5) vs. Oklahoma State
Northwestern vs. Utah (-6.5)
NC State vs. Texas A&M (-4.5)

Jan 1
Mississippi State (-6) vs. Iowa
LSU (-7.5) vs. UCF
Kentucky vs. Penn State (-6)
Washington vs. Ohio State (-6.5)
Texas vs. Georgia (-11)
Last edited by: beachbumbabs on Dec 16, 2018
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December 16th, 2018 at 5:22:33 AM permalink
It appears that all of the favorites won and covered on day one to go 5-0. That would mean that Babs has a perfect record. Congrats.
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December 16th, 2018 at 5:28:35 AM permalink
Please check for any errors. Thanks.

EdCollins: 2-3

Tulane
North Texas
Arizona State
Georgia Southern
Middle Tennessee

TomG. 3-2

Tulane -3
North Texas +9
Fresno State -4.5
Georgia Southern -1
Middle Tennessee +7

Gordonm888. 3-2

Cure Bowl: Tulane -3
New Mexico Bowl: North Texas +9
Las Vegas Bowl: Fresno State -4.5
Camellia Bowl: Georgia Southern -1
New Orleans Bowl: Middle Tennessee +7

Onenicklemiracle. 4-1

Tulane (-3)
Utah State (-9)
Fresno State (-4.5)
Georgia Southern (-1)
Middle Tennessee

Ayecarumba's Bowl PIcks. 4-1

Tulane
North Texas
Fresno State
Georgia Southern
Appalachian State


JohnnyQ. 3-2

Tulane (-3)
Utah State (-9)
Arizona State
Eastern Michigan
Appalachian State (-7)

Drich 4-1

Tulane (-3)
Utah State (-9)
Arizona State
Georgia Southern (-1)
Appalachian State (-7)

Beachbumbabs. 5-0

Tulane (-3)
Utah State (-9)
Fresno State (-4.5)
Georgia Southern (-1)
Appalachian State (-7)
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December 16th, 2018 at 5:31:03 AM permalink
Quote: DRich

It appears that all of the favorites won and covered on day one to go 5-0. That would mean that Babs has a perfect record. Congrats.



I'd say everybody did pretty well, really. As a group we went 28-12.
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December 16th, 2018 at 9:22:38 AM permalink
TomG and Gordon888’s picks are closely aligned.
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December 16th, 2018 at 9:45:02 AM permalink
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TomG and Gordon888’s picks are closely aligned.



Interesting. However, I had posted both their picks for these games at the same time, so I don't think it's anything beyond coincidence.
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December 17th, 2018 at 11:11:37 AM permalink
Midnight Sunday has come and gone. It was an arbitrary deadline, but I wanted to follow up.

No sign of troopscott. I asked around here and there, and no one has heard from him. However, back in November, he told someone he might be pretty busy and offline for some wrestling events for a kid or something. Pretty vague, but all I have.

With that said, I feel pretty strongly he committed to the seed money of $100, even if he's not entered to defend it. But I suppose it's possible we never see him here again.

Next game is tomorrow. I think I'd like to hear from those playing, on a vote, whether we continue or call it off and I refund everyone now, with or without the seed money (which is what made it +EV to enter, of course). Please weigh in before the start of the next game.

I vote to continue, just because it's interesting to see how it all comes out. With 34 games to go, there's a more than good chance I won't win, so hopefully my good start isn't influencing either me or anyone else.

What say the other players? (I will disregard any non-player opinions).
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December 17th, 2018 at 11:14:55 AM permalink
I am up for continuing. It is fun and it is only $25.
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December 17th, 2018 at 1:02:44 PM permalink
Fine. I'm in. Good luck to all.
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I’m in. If Troop wins the “”You “Suck” award in the NFL game, maybe we file a WOV lien. Hehe
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December 17th, 2018 at 3:40:07 PM permalink
I'm in.

Troopscott had picks in the latest week of the NFL picks game, though maybe he was one of the three people that Mission used default picks for.

Any correlation between my picks and someone else's picks is purely coincidence. I did pick a lot of favorites to cover, and took a decided SEC bias on some games -but I found that picking 40 contests ATS was brain-jellifying and didn't work very hard at it.
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December 17th, 2018 at 3:44:49 PM permalink
troopscott'a nfl picks were by default.
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December 17th, 2018 at 6:49:28 PM permalink
Keep going. This contest isn't EV for anyone probably even with a bonus because I don't think anyone knows enough about college football to begin with. Even just willy nilly choosing picks for this game took about ten minutes, spending extra time to decide I don't think was even worth the money to deliberate on the picks and give more time. Looks like BBB's strategy is enviable, she is right about run-ups in college football, but it's still going to be a coin toss. You just have to choose one dog more than the average to win. I had an initial set of picks I didn't use, I'll have to check them to see how they would have done.

Looks like so far, I'm behind my first set:
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2018-19 Bowl Schedule and Odds
All Times ET. Picks against the spread in bold.
Saturday, December 15
Cure Bowl: Tulane (-3)
New Mexico Bowl: Utah State (-9) (2 p.m., ESPN)
Las Vegas Bowl: No. 21 Fresno State (-4.5)
Camellia Bowl: Georgia Southern (-1)
New Orleans Bowl: Appalachian State (-7) (9 p.m., ESPN)

Tuesday, December 18
Boca Raton Bowl: UAB (-2.5)
Wednesday, December 19
Frisco Bowl: San Diego State

Thursday, December 20
Gasparilla Bowl: Marshall (-2.5)
Friday, December 21
Bahamas Bowl: Toledo (-6) (12:30 p.m., ESPN)
Idaho Potato Bowl: . BYU (-12.5) (4 p.m., ESPN)

Saturday, December 22
Birmingham Bowl: Memphis (-5)
Armed Forces Bowl: . Army (-3)(3:30 p.m., ESPN)
Dollar General Bowl: Buffalo (-2.5)
Hawaii Bowl: Hawaii (-1.5)

Wednesday, December 26
First Responder Bowl: Boston College
Quick Lane Bowl:Georgia Tech (-4) (5:15 p.m., ESPN)
Cheez-It Bowl: TCU (Even) (9 p.m., ESPN)

Thursday, December 27
Independence Bowl: Temple (-3) (1:30 p.m., ESPN)
Pinstripe Bowl: Miami (-4)
Texas Bowl: Baylor


Friday, December 28
Music City Bowl:. Auburn (-4) (1:30 p.m., ESPN)
Camping World Bowl:. No. 20 Syracuse (5:15 p.m., ESPN)
Alamo Bowl:No. 13 Washington State (-3.5) (9 p.m., ESPN)

Saturday, December 29
Peach Bowl: No. 10 Florida
Belk Bowl: South Carolina (-4)
Arizona Bowl: Arkansas State (-1)
Cotton Bowl (Playoff Semifinal): No. 3 Notre Dame
Orange Bowl (Playoff Semifinal): No. 1 Alabama (-14) (8 p.m., ESPN)

Monday, December 31
Military Bowl: . Virginia Tech (noon, ESPN)
Sun Bowl: Stanford (-6.5)
Redbox Bowl: Oregon (-2.5) (3 p.m., Fox)
Liberty Bowl: No. 23 Missouri (-7.5)
Holiday Bowl:. No. 17 Utah (-6.5) (7 p.m., FS1)
Gator Bowl:. No. 19 Texas A&M (-4.5) (7:30 p.m., ESPN)

Tuesday, January 1
Outback Bowl: Iowa (noon, ESPN2)
Fiesta Bowl: No. 11 LSU (-7.5)
Citrus Bowl: No. 14 Kentucky
Rose Bowl: . No. 6 Ohio State (-6.5) (5 p.m., ESPN)
Sugar Bowl: No. 15 Texas
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December 20th, 2018 at 7:24:42 AM permalink
This is what I have for the latest standings, after the Frisco Bowl:

EdCollins: 4
TomG: 4
Gordonm888: 4
Onenicklemiracle: 4
Ayecarumba: 5
JohnnyQ: 4
Drich: 4
Beachbumbabs: 7

(Listing # of wins)
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December 20th, 2018 at 7:34:08 AM permalink
Clearly this contest is fixed. Can it just be coincidental that the person holding all of the money is winning and happens to have a perfect score and hasn't lost a single game?

I think babs has inside information and might be a member of an Italian family that influences game outcomes. If she ends up a perfect 40-0 I may have to put a contract hit on her unless she refunds my $25.
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December 20th, 2018 at 4:39:04 PM permalink
Quote: DRich

Clearly this contest is fixed. Can it just be coincidental that the person holding all of the money is winning and happens to have a perfect score and hasn't lost a single game?

Collusion ? Well, that's not for me to say. BUT I can't rule it out, the evidence is just too strong. We need to get to the bottom of this.

Could BBB and DJATC be the same person ? Has anyone ever seen them in the same place at the same time ?

BBB, I just have one more question before I put Airman O'Malley and Airman Rodriguez on the stand. If you gave an order that Santiago wasn't to be touched, and your orders are always followed, then why would Santiago be in danger? Why would it be necessary to transfer him off the base?
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Quote: JohnnyQ

Collusion ? Well, that's not for me to say. BUT I can't rule it out, the evidence is just too strong. We need to get to the bottom of this.

Could BBB and DJATC be the same person ? Has anyone ever seen them in the same place at the same time ?

BBB, I just have one more question before I put Airman O'Malley and Airman Rodriguez on the stand. If you gave an order that Santiago wasn't to be touched, and your orders are always followed, then why would Santiago be in danger? Why would it be necessary to transfer him off the base?



Hehe... I wonder where she buried Troopscott?

Probably better to not ask too many ques......(redacted)

just kidding. No edit
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December 20th, 2018 at 9:31:43 PM permalink
Quote: JohnnyQ

Collusion ? Well, that's not for me to say. BUT I can't rule it out, the evidence is just too strong. We need to get to the bottom of this.

Could BBB and DJATC be the same person ? Has anyone ever seen them in the same place at the same time ?

BBB, I just have one more question before I put Airman O'Malley and Airman Rodriguez on the stand. If you gave an order that Santiago wasn't to be touched, and your orders are always followed, then why would Santiago be in danger? Why would it be necessary to transfer him off the base?



Just one more question? Just one? And you expect the truth? The WHOLE truth? YOU COULDN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH!!

Can't imagine where troopscott has gone to.
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December 20th, 2018 at 9:49:16 PM permalink
UAB (-2.5) vs. Northern Illinois
UAB 37 NI 13 UAB
San Diego State vs. Ohio (-3)
SD STATE 0 Ohio 27 OHIO
Marshall (-2.5) vs. South Florida
Marshall 38 SF 20 MARSHALL

EdCollins +3
UAB
Ohio
Marshall

TomG +2
UAB -2.5
San Diego State +3
Marshall -2.5

Gordo +2
Tuesday, December 18
Boca Raton Bowl: UAB -2.5

Wednesday, December 19
Frisco Bowl: San Diego State +3

Thursday, December 20
Gasparilla Bowl: Marshall -2.5

ONM +1
Northern Illinois
San Diego State
Marshall (-2.5)

Aye +1
Northern Illinois
Ohio
South Florida

JohnnyQ +1
Northern Illinois
Ohio (-3)
South Florida

Drich +0
Northern Illinois
San Diego State
South Florida

BBB +3
UAB (-2.5)
Ohio (-3)
Marshall (-2.5)

Totals through 12/20

EdCollins: 5-3

TomG. 5-3

Gordonm888. 5-3

Onenicklemiracle. 5-3

Ayecarumba's Bowl PIcks. 5-3

JohnnyQ. 4-4

Drich 4-4

Beachbumbabs. 8-0

Overall 41-23
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December 21st, 2018 at 6:26:21 AM permalink
The conspiracy continues.

BBB won the game again last night for a perfect 8-0 record. The game last night was played in Florida, rumor is that BBB lives in Florida.

Enough said!
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...Can't imagine where troopscott has gone to.



Hehe... there's a southern drawl and some batting eyelashes not communicated in the text..

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December 21st, 2018 at 10:32:43 AM permalink
I'm the only one who picked Florida International in today's game. Obviously, that would be great for me if I could win that one... and get one leg up on everyone.

Funny... I find myself checking the score every few minutes, silently rooting for a team that I've never even heard of before this contest.
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December 21st, 2018 at 10:50:21 AM permalink
Quote: EdCollins

I'm the only one who picked Florida International in today's game. Obviously, that would be great for me if I could win that one... and get one leg up on everyone.

Funny... I find myself checking the score every few minutes, silently rooting for a team that I've never even heard of before this contest.



Starting to get your moneys worth out of this little contest then. It's all about the adrenaline rush, right? ;-)
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December 21st, 2018 at 11:02:59 AM permalink
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Starting to get your moneys worth out of this little contest then. It's all about the adrenaline rush, right? ;-)

WHOO HOO! They are currently up by 4!
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December 21st, 2018 at 1:22:15 PM permalink
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WHOO HOO! They are currently up by 4!



You have a WINNAH! well done!
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December 21st, 2018 at 2:23:25 PM permalink
In the ESPN College Bowl pick'em contest I am 8-2 so far. I did a better job picking there then I did here.

Babs has some deep voodoo going on, very impressive start especially considering that the first batch of bowls involves the most obscure teams.

I AM a college football fan, but let's face it: I can't keep straight Tulane and Toledo, and who knows anything at all about Florida International, Hawaii, Ohio University, Louisiana, etc.? And most of the spreads on the bowl games involving the major teams seem pretty reasonable to me -so picking against them is like a 50-50 coin flip.
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December 21st, 2018 at 3:07:52 PM permalink
12/21

Florida International vs. Toledo (-6)
FIU 35 Toledo 32 FIU
Western Michigan vs. BYU (-12.5)
WMich 18 BYU 49 BYU

12/22

Memphis (-5) vs. Wake Forest
Mem 34 WF 37 WAKE FOREST
Houston vs. Army (-3)
Houston 14 Army 70 (!) ARMY
Buffalo (-2.5) vs. Troy
Buffalo 32 Troy 42 TROY
Hawaii (-1.5) vs. Louisiana Tech
Hawaii 14 LaTech 31 LOUISIANA TECH

*******

EdCollins +1
Florida International
Western Michigan
Wake Forest
Army
Buffalo
Hawaii

TomG +0
Toledo -6
Western Michigan +12.5
Wake Forest +5
Army -3
Troy +2.5
Louisiana Tech +1.5

Gordo +0
Friday, December 21
Bahamas Bowl: Toledo -6
Idaho Potato Bowl: Western Michigan +12.5

Saturday, December 22
Birmingham Bowl: Wake Forest +5
Armed Forces Bowl: Army -3
Dollar General Bowl: Troy +2.5
Hawaii Bowl: Hawaii -1.5

ONM +1
Toledo (-6)
BYU (-12.5)
Wake Forest
Army (-3)
Buffalo (-2.5)
Hawaii (-1.5)

Aye +1
Toledo
BYU
Memphis
Houston
Troy
Louisiana Tech

JohnnyQ +0

Toledo (-6)
Western Michigan
Memphis (-5)
Army (-3)
Buffalo (-2.5)
Hawaii (-1.5)

DRich +0
Toledo (-6)
Western Michigan
Wake Forest
Houston
Buffalo (-2.5)
Hawaii (-1.5)

BBB +1
Toledo (-6)
BYU (-12.5)
Memphis (-5)
Army (-3)
Buffalo (-2.5)
Hawaii (-1.5)

Pending scoring.
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December 22nd, 2018 at 9:03:59 AM permalink
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JohnnyQ +0

Uh, what does this mean ? Sorry in advance for being so dense.
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December 22nd, 2018 at 12:41:22 PM permalink
Quote: JohnnyQ

Uh, what does this mean ? Sorry in advance for being so dense.



No, no apology I short-handed it last night, said results coming or whatever. For the 2 Friday games, I just put how many wins out of 2 to save 5 minutes toting it up tonight. I'm trying to group results a little without flooding the thread, since it's 39 games over 3 weeks.

So most people got +1, a couple got +0, nobody had +2 on the Friday games. Those notes will get edited out after tonight's results.
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