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terapined
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April 8th, 2018 at 12:14:48 PM permalink
Quote: billryan

Before you get too excited, how many players qualify for that ? Played three straight games and started one as a pitcher?


All players qualified. Nobody was good enough.
If any manager had or has a hot pitcher that can hit, they have the right to play that player both ways
If any manager has a hot hitter that can pitch. The manager can start that player on the mound
Throughout the history of baseball, every manager had and that option.
Ruth had that talent
Ohtani has that talent
Last edited by: terapined on Apr 8, 2018
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terapined
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April 8th, 2018 at 12:19:37 PM permalink
Quote: Rigondeaux

Saw him 30-1 for MVP. I'd want at least twice that but it's an intriguing possibility.

With his reduced ABs the Angels could manipulate things so most SPs only get 1 or 2 looks at him.

What if he manages to crack 20 Hrs with around 300 PAs and a devent average. He also can run so toss in 5 steals.

If he does that and is an ace, i can see voters being swayed.

The biggest sticking point is that Trout is the actual MVP every year and is on the same team.


I can easily see him win the MVP
If he is pitching and hitting great
No doubt he is the most valuable player helping to win games in more ways that any other player in the Bigs
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terapined
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April 8th, 2018 at 12:28:52 PM permalink
Quote: SM777

https://sports.yahoo.com/verdict-shohei-ohtanis-bat-not-good-023611674.html

Good article.

I think it's quite clear to many that the hitting experiment won't last very long.



lol
Article based solely on spring training
His manager in Japan watched him for years
He predicted he would be a better hitter then pitcher in the USA
Its early but so far yahoo's Jeff Passan looking real bad and the manager is looking good
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mcallister3200
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April 8th, 2018 at 12:33:34 PM permalink
Iím not sure exactly where it happened but terapined you have pole vaulted the shark
terapined
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April 8th, 2018 at 12:42:32 PM permalink
Quote: mcallister3200

Iím not sure exactly where it happened but terapined you have pole vaulted the shark


I'm not the only one excited
Click on the baseball section of ESPN
At the top are all he major links - scores. schedules standings ect. What you expect to see. Also up there, "Ohtani tracker"
There is no Judge tracker. No Trout tracker.
This player is special

I will be doing something today I have not done since I was a kid
Listening to a baseball game on the radio
I'll be watching the Masters finish while listening to the Angels on internet radio :-)
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terapined
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April 8th, 2018 at 3:38:45 PM permalink
Ohtani still hot
Now blazing on the mound
Through 6 innings today, he had a perfect game going
Indredible
His line today
7 innings pitched 1 hit 1 walk 0 runs 12 strikeouts
amazing
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Edpokernut
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April 8th, 2018 at 4:09:14 PM permalink
I was surprised to read that Ohtani's contract is the the league-minimum salary of $545,000 per year. He did receive a one-time signing bonus of $2.3 million though. (Under Major League Baseballís collective-bargaining agreement, or CBA, an incoming international player under the age of 25 like Ohtani can only sign for the league minimum salary).

Article stated that if he waited 2 years, he possibly could of negotiated a $200M contract. It also reported that the Angels will be paying Ohtaniís former team in Japan, the Nippon Ham Fighters, $20 million just for allowing him play in the U.S.
billryan
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April 8th, 2018 at 4:29:45 PM permalink
I'm unclear on his batting. If he is pitching and DHing, do the Angels lose the DH when he is removed?
terapined
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April 8th, 2018 at 4:58:26 PM permalink
Quote: billryan

I'm unclear on his batting. If he is pitching and DHing, do the Angels lose the DH when he is removed?


His schedule is no DH the day brfore pitching, no DH when pitching and no DH the game after pitching
Of course that may change
They don't want to give him too much. Giving him extra rest between pitching games
If he bats on a day he pitches in the American L, team loses the DH, if Ohtani gets knocked out early, next pitcher takes his batting place. Of course you can still pinch hit
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terapined
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April 8th, 2018 at 5:05:00 PM permalink
Quote: Edpokernut

I was surprised to read that Ohtani's contract is the the league-minimum salary of $545,000 per year. He did receive a one-time signing bonus of $2.3 million though. (Under Major League Baseballís collective-bargaining agreement, or CBA, an incoming international player under the age of 25 like Ohtani can only sign for the league minimum salary).

Article stated that if he waited 2 years, he possibly could of negotiated a $200M contract. It also reported that the Angels will be paying Ohtaniís former team in Japan, the Nippon Ham Fighters, $20 million just for allowing him play in the U.S.



That's all true
On the flip side, another major leaguer on hearing what Ohtani was making shrugged and said just about all players at age 23 are making the min.

His manager in Japan though this was a good early move because he was dominating the league in Japan. His manager said Ohtani needs a challenge to get better

His stuff was amazing today
5th inning, 3 strikeouts on 13 pitches.
incredible
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