NokTang
NokTang
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December 28th, 2017 at 4:14:30 PM permalink
Quote: TomG

If their cheating was really such a driving force why do you choose to describe all their winning as "greatness."



Good morning Tom G.....Thanks for being somewhat polite. Please review the links below, which I got with a quick search. But first mate, since you mention "Americans", kindly tell us why your soccer players fake injuries and are always bitching at the referee at basically all levels of play from the Premier League down to the under 17 games. Thanks mate. Going for some pigs blood for breakfast now.

https://www.elitedaily.com/sports/history-new-england-patriots-allegedly-cheating/910436

https://www.cheatsheet.com/sports/the-new-england-patriots-biggest-scandals.html/?a=viewall
horse
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December 28th, 2017 at 4:30:01 PM permalink
Quote: NokTang

Good morning Tom G.....Thanks for being somewhat polite. Please review the links below, which I got with a quick search. But first mate, since you mention "Americans", kindly tell us why your soccer players fake injuries and are always bitching at the referee at basically all levels of play from the Premier League down to the under 17 games. Thanks mate. Going for some pigs blood for breakfast now.

https://www.elitedaily.com/sports/history-new-england-patriots-allegedly-cheating/910436

https://www.cheatsheet.com/sports/the-new-england-patriots-biggest-scandals.html/?a=viewall



I skimmed past this post and thought "what American cares anything at all about soccer?"

That "history" as the article refers to, is qualified by "allegedly". The same type of bs is thrown around over here every time Trump upsets liberal snowflakes with the truth.
NokTang
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December 28th, 2017 at 4:35:41 PM permalink
Quote: horse

I skimmed past this post and thought "what American cares anything at all about soccer?"

That "history" as the article refers to, is qualified by "allegedly". The same type of bs is thrown around over here every time Trump upsets liberal snowflakes with the truth.



Soccer litters my TV every day. It's that or ping pong. The point was and remains about the members remark regarding Americans and how it's quite obvious attempts to cheat in soccer go on each and every game. They attack Phil Ivey as not being "sporting" yet think faking contact to draw penalties in a sport is "sporting"? As far as President Trump, well that's for another place. I'll take a tax break any time I can get one, thanks Mr. President.
TomG
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December 28th, 2017 at 4:48:34 PM permalink
Quote: NokTang

kindly tell us why your soccer players fake injuries and are always bitching at the referee at basically all levels of play from the Premier League down to the under 17 games.



Most likely reason is because they are not nearly as talented as their opponents and have to resort to these sort of tactics and still can't win. More evidence that the Patriots greatness has been achieved by being more talented and better prepared. In fact, in the first article, the only evidence supporting two of the allegations were that the Patriots played so well, the only possibility is that it must have been cheating. But then why aren't the other 31 teams doing? Because they just aren't as great. The plays against Baltimore were done out in the open with complete permission from the refs. Even if it was done after the rule changes, it wouldn't be any more cheating than holding by an offensive lineman holding or pass interference by a defensive back. And those are thing the Patriots do far less than all other teams, either because they cheat less than every other team, or because they are simply better than all the rest. If you really want to criticize the Patriots, why aren't you even bringing up the Gronkowski hit from a few weeks ago. That's the reason I can't stand them this year.

When the Patriots beat the Colts 45-10, an opposing player said the balls were too flat. The referees then used a poor testing measure that was not conclusive and only re-tested the balls the Patriots supplied, not the Colts. The rules were also ambiguous about whether it was even against the rules if the pressure stayed within the allowable limits. Which they may very well have. We'll never know because of the poor methods used.

Filming the Jets practice 10 years ago is the only one that seems to hold up. But I can guarantee the rest of the league would gladly let the Patriots film all their practices if it meant they lose their first round pick

Quote: NokTang

https://www.elitedaily.com/sports/history-new-england-patriots-allegedly-cheating/910436

https://www.cheatsheet.com/sports/the-new-england-patriots-biggest-scandals.html/?a=viewall



I love that second article: "Was the tactic deceiving? Yes. Was it illegal? No. At least, not at the time; the formation is now illegal." and "This scandal doesnít actually involve Bill Belichick." And that's two of the four instances they could find of the Patriots cheating over the past 40 years
lilredrooster
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December 31st, 2017 at 5:27:43 AM permalink
nice game to watch 4:25 est on Fox.

Panthers at Falcons

Falcons need a win and/or Seahawks loss to get a wild card spot.

Panthers can win the NFC south if they win and Saints lose.

should be a very competitive game
"𝘣𝘦𝘭𝘪𝘦𝘷𝘦 𝘩𝘢𝘭𝘧 𝘰𝘧 𝘸𝘩𝘢𝘵 𝘺𝘰𝘶 𝘴𝘦𝘦 𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘯𝘰𝘯𝘦 𝘰𝘧 𝘸𝘩𝘢𝘵 𝘺𝘰𝘶 𝘩𝘦𝘢𝘳"______Edgar Allan Poe

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