SM777
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November 7th, 2017 at 9:47:05 AM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

Nah, we would just focus on his past shenanigans and claim he has a different handle on a different site where he has different picks.

Assuming he has a bad year, will he...

A.) Tell us he has adjusted his algorithm.
B.) Tell us he made money with other bets and last minute changes.
C.) Tell us NFL is where he makes most of his money.
D.) It was a one-off crazy unpredictable year.
E.) All of the above including multiple other excuses.
F.) Remain silent for the most part in hopes we will all forget.

Bonus questions:
How many of his Voodoo dolls will he use on SM777?
What's a good O/U of how often SM777 will bump this thread?



E.

4.5 O/U
AxelWolf
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November 7th, 2017 at 9:47:38 AM permalink
And to the person who I privately scorned for suggesting we try following JOELDEZE picks, let this be a lesson.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
SM777
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November 11th, 2017 at 6:39:09 AM permalink
Is this the end.....?
bazooooka
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November 12th, 2017 at 12:19:33 AM permalink
It's indeed hard to find systems that win only 40% or so. But when I find the kind of guys I typically fade them over 100 bets. More often than not it has worked out well. It seems its easier to create a system that loses over wins. Coin flips have you at 50/50 but systems often used flawed logic and I expect Vegas takes advantage of that. Thus some people seem to always LOSE in the long run even if you gave them vig free betting.
Wizardofnothing
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November 12th, 2017 at 2:48:52 AM permalink
Long live Vegas Dave
He is a legend
No longer hiring, donít ask because I wonít hire you either
Rigondeaux
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November 12th, 2017 at 4:04:18 AM permalink
Quote: bazooooka

It's indeed hard to find systems that win only 40% or so. But when I find the kind of guys I typically fade them over 100 bets. More often than not it has worked out well. It seems its easier to create a system that loses over wins. Coin flips have you at 50/50 but systems often used flawed logic and I expect Vegas takes advantage of that. Thus some people seem to always LOSE in the long run even if you gave them vig free betting.



I'm skeptical of any of this. I have seen some touts rack up staggeringly bad records, (Teddy Covers) but I think they are just getting unlucky on their coin flips.

The idea of someone using good logic backwards, or subconsciously making bad picks just seems to far fetched for me to believe in fading anyone.

Joel's sample size for this season is too small to mean much of anything either way. But, especially as a smaller bettor, the best thing to do is just hunt for off numbers and do parlay cards and similar stuff. Handicapping the biggest markets is very hard and time consuming.

If you must, you can handicap smaller markets, which is still hard, but not as hard and just as time consuming.
DrawingDead
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November 12th, 2017 at 5:07:14 AM permalink
Quote: Wizardofnothing

Long live Vegas Dave
He is a legend

Yes indeed, a legend!

Sports Bettor/Con Artist/General Scumbag Vegas Dave indicted...
Quote:

For those wondering whether or not he's a ****ing fraud:

Quote: https://twitter.com/groovinmahoovin/status/828777457197125637 - 5:28 PM - 6 Feb 2017[/q



What's wrong with this picture, @itsvegasdave? Aside from that you already claimed you cashed out your 2 milly two weeks ago?

Oops! You're busted @itsvegasdave



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NokTang
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November 14th, 2017 at 2:44:03 PM permalink
Quote: Rigondeaux

I'm skeptical of any of this. I have seen some touts rack up staggeringly bad records, (Teddy Covers) but I think they are just getting unlucky on their coin flips.

The idea of someone using good logic backwards, or subconsciously making bad picks just seems to far fetched for me to believe in fading anyone.

Joel's sample size for this season is too small to mean much of anything either way. But, especially as a smaller bettor, the best thing to do is just hunt for off numbers and do parlay cards and similar stuff. Handicapping the biggest markets is very hard and time consuming.

If you must, you can handicap smaller markets, which is still hard, but not as hard and just as time consuming.



Reasonable opinions which most ought to agree with as long as the parlay cards are only for recreational purposes. However, we still, to this very day! have touts which claim to have "inside information" about injuries, pissed off coaches, etc.. Don't laugh or forget the still held belief that Vegas(and I assume off shore) books make the call when they really really need an outcome. Selling an idea of "what if" along with "I'm in the loop" gets many a gullible fool to send money for the "pick"s sold as really meaning the fix is in.
NokTang
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November 14th, 2017 at 2:46:55 PM permalink
Quote: DrawingDead


The sportstout racket is full of legends. And stuff.



Thanks for the morning laugh. (It's 545AM where I sit) While your prior personal attacks are still entrenched in my mind and computer, I still like to say thanks for a good joke. Have a nice day and OO.
NokTang
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November 14th, 2017 at 2:49:50 PM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

Nah, we would just focus on his past shenanigans and claim he has a different handle on a different site where he has different picks.



Careful mate. I was given an informal "warning" when stated the obvious and common scheme of posting a different set of picks or in fact, other side etc. elsewhere. This is how touts work, we all should know it. That's all I was ever saying. Not "trolling" or a personal attack, just the facts mam.

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