NokTang
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August 27th, 2017 at 10:17:35 PM permalink
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McGregor doesn't have the stamina for boxing.



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NokTang
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August 27th, 2017 at 10:24:19 PM permalink
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1) That ref was unbelievably disrespectful to connor, staring at him while stating the rules like he hasn't ever been in a god damn fight before. The ref also BROKE them apart when they WERE NOT clinched but mayweather had his back turned. Lastly, in my opinion, he prematurely stopped the fight.
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Agree completely about the "instructions" at the beginning. It showed the public that the ref was in Floyd's corner.

Any opinion on Coner sort of hammering Floyd's head when they were clinched or sort of clinched? He could have really hammered him but they were just taps?

Had the ref given a standing eight count, let it continue, then stopped it soon thereafter....the over 9.5 rounds might have won. I doubt the ref knew the exact time but I'm sure the over bettors are demanding refunds at the very least....
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August 27th, 2017 at 10:56:08 PM permalink
Quote: Romes

The clincher.... I literally told you mayweather wouldn't retire 49-1... he's WAYYYYY to prideful and had boxing pride on the line. This was probably the easiest lock I've ever bet.

So here's my opinion on the fight... It went exactly as I thought it would. You can't convince me they didn't pre-script the fight to let a few things happen:

1) Boxer wins to save boxing reputation.
2) Mayweather retires 50-0.
3) MMA fighter keeps his respect and isn't embarrassed.
4) Fight takes time and goes more than a few rounds (though I did think it would end around round 6, not 10).

As a fighter that's WATCHED them both fight, I can seriously give my opinion in stating that was a 75% SPARING MATCH (which is typical gym sparing where you're trying but not trying to actually hurt the other guy). I've seen them both fight, and in that fight I didn't see one punch from EITHER fighter that had "bad intentions" on it. They colluded and planned out a "win/win" scenario for both of them, which is why McGreggor was grinning ear to ear the entire time and after the fight.

Two more quick notes:

1) That ref was unbelievably disrespectful to connor, staring at him while stating the rules like he hasn't ever been in a god damn fight before. The ref also BROKE them apart when they WERE NOT clinched but mayweather had his back turned. Lastly, in my opinion, he prematurely stopped the fight.

2) Good thing I waited till 20 min before the fight to get Mayweather at -350 ;-) ;-) ;-).... The easiest sports bet in history.



I said there could be shenanigans afoot, as in they could be afoot....not that I necessarily thought there would be. And yes, I had a wager on Mayweather. I bet him at -600, -575, and -550, along with a few other times with better odds but smaller amounts. Wish I waited longer to get it at a better price, but meh. Free money is free money.

Don't know all the rules and whatnot in boxing, but definitely seemed like the ref ended it early. That's fine by me though. Just glad I didn't have a bet on Connor getting knocked down (I was considering it).
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August 27th, 2017 at 11:31:26 PM permalink
The refs instructions were fine. OMG, he told an MMA fighter in his first boxing match to be damn sure to follow boxing rules. Big whoop.

He should have backed up the speech by penalizing Conor for the hammer punches.


Floyd said the cantor (presumably) turned down his $5,000,000 bet on himself. But he did have a smaller bet on the under. So, if that's true, everybody involved would be commiting a serious federal crime if the fight was rigged. Which is one more reason it would be extremely improbable.
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August 28th, 2017 at 1:59:06 AM permalink
Anyone who thinks the fight was stopped prematurely, go back and watch the ninth round. How many shots did Conor take without even trying to throw a punch.
Mayweather beat him from one side of the ring to the other, and Conor couldn't even lift his gloves . He wasn't defending himself, nor was he throwing punches.
Mayweather hit him at least sixteen times in a row without Conor doing anything but retreat.
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August 28th, 2017 at 5:34:44 AM permalink
Quote: Rigondeaux



Floyd said the cantor (presumably) turned down his $5,000,000 bet on himself. But he did have a smaller bet on the under. So, if that's true, everybody involved would be commiting a serious federal crime if the fight was rigged. Which is one more reason it would be extremely improbable.



I didn't see that. The report was $400,000. on the KO, then the under, both required them to "call". I don't know who they called. This took too long and they left.(afternoon of the event)

Unless Coner got some of the $5,000,000., why do you think it would have been a crime? I thought that was sorted out leading up to the fight. As long as he bet on himself it was okay?

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August 28th, 2017 at 6:12:40 AM permalink
Bovada dropped to -350 before the fight, is that because they didn't have the 7-figure bettors that Vegas did?

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August 28th, 2017 at 6:50:39 AM permalink
Quote: NokTang

I didn't see that. The report was $400,000. on the KO, then the under, both required them to "call". I don't know who they called. This took too long and they left.(afternoon of the event)

Unless Coner got some of the $5,000,000., why do you think it would have been a crime? I thought that was sorted out leading up to the fight. As long as he bet on himself it was okay?

Thanks.



Yes, it's legal for boxers to bet on themselves.

However, it is illegal to bet on the fight and then rig it.

Romes suggested that the fight was scripted, and/or that an agreement on the outcome was made prefight. I'm not sure if this would be illegal without anyone involved betting on the fight. However if they did bet on it, I am pretty sure that it would be illegal. This is why that NBA ref went to prison.
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August 28th, 2017 at 7:09:07 AM permalink
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Had the ref given a standing eight count, let it continue, then stopped it soon thereafter....the over 9.5 rounds might have won. I doubt the ref knew the exact time but I'm sure the over bettors are demanding refunds at the very least....


I don't think over/under in boxing works that way - 9.5 "should" mean, "Will the fight go at least 10 full rounds, yes or no?". I am under the impression that, even if the fight had been stopped at 2:59 of the tenth round, "under 9.5" would win. It may be different for each book, but if I am reading the William Hill rules correctly, WH rule 3a seems to agree with this version - for betting purposes, the fight only went 9 rounds.
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August 28th, 2017 at 7:31:05 AM permalink
Quote: ThatDonGuy

I don't think over/under in boxing works that way - 9.5 "should" mean, "Will the fight go at least 10 full rounds, yes or no?". I am under the impression that, even if the fight had been stopped at 2:59 of the tenth round, "under 9.5" would win. It may be different for each book, but if I am reading the William Hill rules correctly, WH rule 3a seems to agree with this version - for betting purposes, the fight only went 9 rounds.



That was my understanding too for how Las Vegas handles it. Betting under 9.5 rounds would mean that it will be less than 10 rounds.
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