However, it is remarkable at least to me, that a woman fighter can be a 15 to 1 favorite. Is real money really wagered on these fights, especially at this type of lay(no pun)?
Quote: JohnCenaRhonda's gonna kick some ass!!!!
Maybe so...
Card has started, boring so far. Hope the main event is more exciting.
Quote: NokTangWas looking at the UFC 190 odds. As usual, they are 30-40 cent lines.
However, it is remarkable at least to me, that a woman fighter can be a 15 to 1 favorite. Is real money really wagered on these fights, especially at this type of lay(no pun)?
I think a "lock" would be more so with women, since many don't have the ability to KO and very few can do it with one punch, so that element of chance is diminished. Also, RR is legitimately a high level athlete. As popular as she is, there's no real foundation for womens MMA and a very shallow talent pool. That means she's often fighting women who really have almost no shot because they are practically amateurs. Like a college football team playing an NFL team. This happens a lot in boxing too, though for different reasons.
I've bet on UFC a bit. It was one of the few sports a layman could beat just by good handicapping for a long time, though I think it's getting harder now.
Quote: GWAEI have never seen her fight before but someone just posted it on Facebook so I figured why not. Why was the fight called? She hit her a few times and she fell. I thought ufc was punch and kick until they die. Did the other girl give up?
Actually, they stop the fights rather quickly, both men and women. In this case however I did agree with the stoppage. The loser was obviously knocked out and to remind, there is no "standing eight count". The fighter can pounce on the person they have just knocked down and seriously hurt them if the fight isn't halted.
Quote: GWAEI have never seen her fight before but someone just posted it on Facebook so I figured why not. Why was the fight called? She hit her a few times and she fell. I thought ufc was punch and kick until they die. Did the other girl give up?
She wasn't fighting back so thats why it was stopped but it was good stoppage. This ain't boxing she could have gotten seriously hurt from a ffew more seconds of Rhondas beatdown.
I wish I could have bet on Rhonda! She's a beast in the ring. maybe the only person to give her a good fight is cyborg
Quote: GWAEI have never seen her fight before but someone just posted it on Facebook so I figured why not. Why was the fight called? She hit her a few times and she fell. I thought ufc was punch and kick until they die. Did the other girl give up?
Anytime a fighter lands face first without putting hands down to break the fall, the fight is over. She was knocked out cold.
ZCore13
Quote: Zcore13Anytime a fighter lands face first without putting hands down to break the fall, the fight is over. She was knocked out cold.
Probably woke up and wondered if the fight had started yet.
Quote:MELBOURNE, Australia — Holly Holm pulled off a stunning upset victory over Ronda Rousey in UFC 193, knocking out the women's bantamweight champion in the second round with a powerful kick to the head Sunday.
http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2015/11/15/world/ap-mma-ufc-193.html?_r=0
I think Rigondeaux might and if he posts a sports pick then I would probably jump on it and feel good that I had Value.Quote: rxwineRousey just got defeated by KO.
http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2015/11/15/world/ap-mma-ufc-193.html?_r=0
He's smarter than the average bear.
You knew this? Ill take even money on the rematch.Quote: Pinit2winitI knew she was going to get knocked out but every idiot i know told me not to bet cause Rousey was going to "dominate" obviously they cannot see technique and how Rousey is careless and just goes for the rush takedown.... Cannot do that against a pro boxer. Grats to all who grabbed the +1300 line on that.
You go, girl.
Good thing I didn't bet rousey to win.....
Quote: AxelWolfYou knew this? Ill take even money on the rematch.
You will get better than even money. Holm didn't just win with a single lucky kick. She dominated the entire fight. Rousey looked like she was 'punching like a girl', while Holm looked like she was punching like a boxer. I can easily see Rousey retiring rather than subjecting herself to another beatdown like last night.
She got pummeled in the first round. You don't chase around a top level professional boxer. This fight was amazingly similar to Tyson/Douglas. From bad strategy to bad corner to dominating fighter being picked apart.
ZCore13
google search for "Rousey Holm rematch odds", says someone put it up at -175 Rousey, +150 Holm. If that were put up in Vegas there would be a few max bets on Holm as soon as anyone knew where to find it.
Ronda looked tired, and god only knows why she tried to punch it out with Holly: Ronda's forte is judo, with a wicked arm bar.
Just shows the truth of the old adage: "Go home from the dance with the one that brung ya."
Hmm did I make that offer to you? (not sarcasm, I actually forgot for a second. I probably wouldn't let you make a bet like that with me, sounds like zero or - EV)Quote: MidwestAPAxel - I want to see what the line is on the rematch before making any bet, I suspect Rousey will be favored and I can a better price then even money, but I think Holly Holm wins the rematch.
NO I certainly wouldn't allow someone to see the proper line and then if it went their way decide to make the bet.
The point of the bet.
Him saying "I knew it" is why I made that offer. I wanted a true blind bet. That was his chance to go back in time and make the bet again. Not after him seeing the odds. I have absolutely no opinion, I didn't see the fight and I only know about RR's reputation and watched a few highlights of her past fights.
https://www.facebook.com/BoxeoTijuana/videos/561705457314635/
Sweet. I'll thank you in advance.Quote: rxwineI don't know if this link will continue to be good. But was a moment ago. That's the one posted in other thread.
https://www.facebook.com/BoxeoTijuana/videos/561705457314635/
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Quote: AxelWolfSweet. I'll thank you in advance.
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It's still there. I watched it 15 minutes ago and it ran fine. Just checked it again.
Ahh I see RX wasn't DT'ing you were CB'ing.Quote: beachbumbabsIt's still there. I watched it 15 minutes ago and it ran fine. Just checked it again.
Quote: AxelWolfAhh I see RX wasn't DT'ing you were CB'ing.
Yes. It's true. He's my secret lover. (KIDDING, RX)
ILL take that action at even money if they have a rematch. I haven't watched yet because it wont buffer.Quote: Pinit2winitIde take that bet axel for like 50 bucks at the rematch. Rousey just was the first to be like that as a female. She isn't the best just beat the prior best to get there. Holm having a stand up game frustrated rousey to the point of mistakes. Let me know what you think of the fight after you watch it. To me Holm made her look like an amatur.
I can't imagine that the line will move to even money.
Quote: AxelWolfILL take that action at even money if they have a rematch. I haven't watched yet because it wont buffer.
I can't imagine that the line will move to even money.
Watch the fight
Holm dominated.
Rousey's face was a bloody mess before the knock-out
If they fight again, Holm will be the favorite
Holm probably will be the favorite. Her stand up and sheer strength that stopped Ronda from taking her down was a huge advantage... Then again Ronda's game plan of "chasing yet not ever shooting for a take down was the biggest advantage in the fight.Quote: terapinedWatch the fight
Holm dominated.
Rousey's face was a bloody mess before the knock-out
If they fight again, Holm will be the favorite
If Ronda is an underdog and I can somehow figure she's going to actually "shoot" for a take down or two in the 2nd fight, I'd still bet huge on Ronda. I still think Ronda would decimate her on the ground, and get decimated standing up (as she did). We saw a completely 1 sided fight because of the horrendous coaching and lack of take down attempts from Ronda.
p.s. I bet on a couple fights that night, and won, but I did not bet on the Ronda/Holm fight =).
Quote: DRichBogdanovich just said on the radio that he would make their next fight close to pick'em.
Watch those odds change as the sharps put all their money on Holm
With Holm boxing skills and reach advantage, she will eventually be the clear favorite.
30 sec left in the 1st round she even accomplished a takedown exposing the back shoulders of Rousey to the floor.
Quote: terapinedWatch those odds change as the sharps put all their money on Holm
With Holm boxing skills and reach advantage, she will eventually be the clear favorite.
30 sec left in the 1st round she even accomplished a takedown exposing the back shoulders of Rousey to the floor.
I think the money would go to Rousey. The public betting has a lot more influence than the Sharps and the public will think it was a fluke that she got beat.
I will bet some Holm if that number is still there when I get downtown.
Also provided the link I watched, thx.
I don't bet on the gals, but I'll watch ;-)
That was intense, maybe too intense.
ZCore13
I'm open to booking more at this time for even money. No I'm not booking it after the fact if the line moves. I just wanted a better line than what I thought would be offered. I have no opinion nor am I making any claims. You don't even get the benefit of gloating. AAMOF Betting it at even money when you can get + money isn't gloat worthy.
It would be like counting Tyson out because he lost to Douglas.
Place your bets now or forever hold you're peace.
You're nor confident or you would bet more. You already made that mistake and you second guessed yourself and listened to the public/ploppys/friends. $50 isn't even a bet, that's just entertainment. If you win you can say I told you so, but at $50 not really. If you lose you can shrug it off and say big deal it's only $50.Quote: Pinit2winitI wish i was pro! I would be all over it. Until then ill just be very confident in my handicap on this fight alone.
I say man up and make a bet that counts and show some real confidants.
Quote: AxelWolf
You're handicapping the fight,, I'm not. If you're are a good handicapper then you should go pro and bet the farm at even money before you have to lay odds.
I wish i was pro! I would be all over it. Until then ill just be very confident in my handicap on this fight alone.
I say man up and make a bet that counts and show some real confidants.