Half Point Parlay Cards
September 27th, 2013 at 6:05:22 PM
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It isn't every day I hand my readers a juicy advantage play, but this is one of those times. I'm referring to half point parlay cards. My analysis of them will be in a page on parlays I'm making in general, but sharp gamblers will focus in on the half point cards. I show realistic advantages of 30% of so. The downside is the variance is huge, they are time consuming to put in, and you can get only so much money down.
So, please have a look at what I've got so far on my new page on parlay cards. As always, I welcome all corrections, comments, and questions.
So, please have a look at what I've got so far on my new page on parlay cards. As always, I welcome all corrections, comments, and questions.
"For with much wisdom comes much sorrow." -- Ecclesiastes 1:18 (NIV)
September 27th, 2013 at 6:58:53 PM
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Thanks Wiz,
This is great. I'm gonna be at the 4 queens in 5 weeks and they use William Hill. In the past, I've never stayed in Vegas on a Sat nite, hotel rooms are so cheap during the week. This trip I decided to arrive on a Sat afternoon(Nov 2) just so I can bet on Sunday NFL. I'm gonna try some 1/2 point parlays. Your analysis is great.
May spend more Saturdays in Vegas, 4 Queens sent me a mailer for 2 free nights, I called them for my Nov 2 trip, booked 3 nights expecting to pay for Sat nite and get Sun and Mon comped , Instead they comped Sat and Sun and just charging a small 25.00 rate for Mon. Staying at the D final 2 nites of trip just to change things up and keep the trip interesting. .
This is great. I'm gonna be at the 4 queens in 5 weeks and they use William Hill. In the past, I've never stayed in Vegas on a Sat nite, hotel rooms are so cheap during the week. This trip I decided to arrive on a Sat afternoon(Nov 2) just so I can bet on Sunday NFL. I'm gonna try some 1/2 point parlays. Your analysis is great.
May spend more Saturdays in Vegas, 4 Queens sent me a mailer for 2 free nights, I called them for my Nov 2 trip, booked 3 nights expecting to pay for Sat nite and get Sun and Mon comped , Instead they comped Sat and Sun and just charging a small 25.00 rate for Mon. Staying at the D final 2 nites of trip just to change things up and keep the trip interesting. .
When somebody doesn't believe me, I could care less. Some get totally bent out of shape when not believed. Weird. I believe very little on all forums
September 28th, 2013 at 7:16:42 AM
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Great stuff Wizard-
I'm in Vegas about 3 times during football season, and I have played these 1/2 point cards, taking advantage of the extra 1/2 point around key numbers 3, 7, and sometimes 10.
I just thought it was a "smart" way to play. Didn't know it was enough to swing the advantage to the player.
So far I haven't had any success playing this way, but it's a small sample. Next trip, I will increase my wagers now that I know I have an edge.
Thanks!
I'm in Vegas about 3 times during football season, and I have played these 1/2 point cards, taking advantage of the extra 1/2 point around key numbers 3, 7, and sometimes 10.
I just thought it was a "smart" way to play. Didn't know it was enough to swing the advantage to the player.
So far I haven't had any success playing this way, but it's a small sample. Next trip, I will increase my wagers now that I know I have an edge.
Thanks!
Talent hits a target no one else can hit; genius hits a target no one else can see.
September 28th, 2013 at 8:07:40 AM
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Quote: terapinedThanks Wiz,
This is great. I'm gonna be at the 4 queens in 5 weeks and they use William Hill. In the past, I've never stayed in Vegas on a Sat nite, hotel rooms are so cheap during the week. This trip I decided to arrive on a Sat afternoon(Nov 2) just so I can bet on Sunday NFL. I'm gonna try some 1/2 point parlays. Your analysis is great.
May spend more Saturdays in Vegas, 4 Queens sent me a mailer for 2 free nights, I called them for my Nov 2 trip, booked 3 nights expecting to pay for Sat nite and get Sun and Mon comped , Instead they comped Sat and Sun and just charging a small 25.00 rate for Mon. Staying at the D final 2 nites of trip just to change things up and keep the trip interesting. .
William Hill used to offer a 1 point buy-down on straight up bets. Buying down 3 1/2 to 2 1/2 point was the difference is going 14-4 instead of 9-14 in the 2011 season.
September 28th, 2013 at 8:08:49 AM
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Quote: KeyserSozeI'm in Vegas about 3 times during football season, and I have played these 1/2 point cards, taking advantage of the extra 1/2 point around key numbers 3, 7, and sometimes 10.
Thanks! Here are my plays this week: Bill +3.5, Lions -2.5, Oak +3.5, Atl -1.5, Texans +2.5, Cowboys -1.5, Eagles +11.5 . Bills +3.5 is the strongest play, so I have that on every card. I've got one pick-7, and the rest are pick-6, each with one pick missing besides the Bills.
"For with much wisdom comes much sorrow." -- Ecclesiastes 1:18 (NIV)
September 28th, 2013 at 9:01:06 AM
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Nice work Wiz. Excellent information.
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September 28th, 2013 at 9:04:30 AM
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Quote: WizardThanks! Here are my plays this week: Bill +3.5, Lions -2.5, Oak +3.5, Atl -1.5, Texans +2.5, Cowboys -1.5, Eagles +11.5 . Bills +3.5 is the strongest play, so I have that on every card. I've got one pick-7, and the rest are pick-6, each with one pick missing besides the Bills.
The Bills secondary is so decimated that coach Marrone has given me a call asking me if I am free Sunday. I thought the line would be about 7 points. Of course I must be 3 wins 11 losses for a reason.....
September 28th, 2013 at 9:27:22 AM
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If a line moves on a particular team on board for some reason, the parlay cards stay the same, add that in and your advantage is higher.
They will back you off if they notice your trying to get large amounts of money down while keying a few particular teams together.
They will back you off if they notice your trying to get large amounts of money down while keying a few particular teams together.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
September 28th, 2013 at 10:00:09 AM
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Quote: AxelWolfThey will back you off if they notice your trying to get large amounts of money down while keying a few particular teams together.
So I've heard. I'm only starting to do this and no back offs so far. Yesterday I put in seven very correlated cards, all on the hot sides, for $100 each at the Rampart with no problems.
"For with much wisdom comes much sorrow." -- Ecclesiastes 1:18 (NIV)
September 28th, 2013 at 10:26:12 AM
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I defiantly got backed off there years ago. It may take a while, not sure how many cards you put in. are we talking 10 or 50?Quote: WizardSo I've heard. I'm only starting to do this and no back offs so far. Yesterday I put in seven very correlated cards, all on the hot sides, for $100 each at the Rampart with no problems.
Side note: some places give drawing tickets and such for parlay cards sometimes a nice amount . Sometimes with a $5 min, you can amass a ton of tickets by breaking down your bets. Charlies often dose this.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
September 28th, 2013 at 11:34:36 AM
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Quote: AxelWolfI defiantly got backed off there years ago. It may take a while, not sure how many cards you put in. are we talking 10 or 50?
I put in seven.
"For with much wisdom comes much sorrow." -- Ecclesiastes 1:18 (NIV)
September 28th, 2013 at 11:40:46 PM
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I know you can sometimes get deals in changing spreads on the parlay cards. But doesnt parlay cards also pay out less than gambling off the board.
I am not sure but if I remember right parlays "off the board" for 3 teams pay 6 to 1. But when you look at some parlay cards they pay 6.5 for 1 or 6.75 for 1....am I correct on this...I used to bet the cards when I was a newbie....but later found that betting off the board had more flexibility and paid better . but you can sometimes get gems of point advantage along with the lower pay rate
I am not sure but if I remember right parlays "off the board" for 3 teams pay 6 to 1. But when you look at some parlay cards they pay 6.5 for 1 or 6.75 for 1....am I correct on this...I used to bet the cards when I was a newbie....but later found that betting off the board had more flexibility and paid better . but you can sometimes get gems of point advantage along with the lower pay rate
September 29th, 2013 at 1:01:25 AM
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I know they used to let you make 3 and 4 team parlays off the board. That's when they really start backing you off.Quote: LarrySI know you can sometimes get deals in changing spreads on the parlay cards. But doesnt parlay cards also pay out less than gambling off the board.
I am not sure but if I remember right parlays "off the board" for 3 teams pay 6 to 1. But when you look at some parlay cards they pay 6.5 for 1 or 6.75 for 1....am I correct on this...I used to bet the cards when I was a newbie....but later found that betting off the board had more flexibility and paid better . but you can sometimes get gems of point advantage along with the lower pay rate
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
September 29th, 2013 at 1:18:10 AM
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Good luck or variance. I have a feeling $700 worth of bets wont bother them. Its when your trying to get as much action as possible, thousands and thousands they get real mean. When they start getting a lot of parlay bets that include particular teams, no matter how well you mix it up, the manager tells all the guys to have it approved with him first.Quote: WizardI put in seven.
When there is a clear advantage most likely many sharp sports bettors are all betting the same thing and its apparent to the Managers right away.
You would think sports book managers would know who's picks to follow after a while and get rich.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
September 29th, 2013 at 6:36:14 AM
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It is this kind of analysis that separates Mike from the rest of us! I do have one question, which might tend to decrease the player edge you have calculated. When the pread is, 3, say, the bookie has to opt for either 2.5 or 3.5. Your analysis implies that that is a random event. What if it is not? I will use the Bills game as an example. I first saw the Bills line at 3.5, not 3, and actually thought it would go higher. So when the bookie had to choose between 2.5 and 3.5, they may have just chosen the line which is actually a 50/50 proposition. If they had chosen 2.5 it may have been a 60/40 proposition, creating real value, but they obviously won't do that intentionally.
So have you retrospectivelly checked how this system would have performed over the past few years? Using actual games and actual pointspreads? I don't know if you would have access to actual teaser cards....
And, thanks again!
Also, is there a way to bet a single game laying substantially more points than the spread? For example, what odds coud I get on the Ravens minus 13?
So have you retrospectivelly checked how this system would have performed over the past few years? Using actual games and actual pointspreads? I don't know if you would have access to actual teaser cards....
And, thanks again!
Also, is there a way to bet a single game laying substantially more points than the spread? For example, what odds coud I get on the Ravens minus 13?
September 29th, 2013 at 8:37:04 PM
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Quote: SOOPOOWhen the pread is, 3, say, the bookie has to opt for either 2.5 or 3.5. Your analysis implies that that is a random event. What if it is not?
For my analysis, I assume the bettor only makes the bet if the half point moves in his favor. So, in the case of a spread of 3, I assume if it moves to 2.5, the player bets the favorite, and to 3.5, the dog.
Quote:So have you retrospectivelly checked how this system would have performed over the past few years? Using actual games and actual pointspreads? I don't know if you would have access to actual teaser cards....
No, I don't have any old cards. However, I do have the "off the board spreads" and can gauge the value of gaining a half point off those, when the spread is an integer.
In other news, I have added to that page with my analysis of Ties Win parlay cards.
"For with much wisdom comes much sorrow." -- Ecclesiastes 1:18 (NIV)
September 30th, 2013 at 4:57:05 PM
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I've added lots of new material to my page on Parlay Bets in the NFL. Other than cleaning up the usual typos, it should be ready to publish soon. I've added material since my OP on ties win, ties lose, and off the board parlays.
As always, I welcome all feedback.
As always, I welcome all feedback.
"For with much wisdom comes much sorrow." -- Ecclesiastes 1:18 (NIV)
September 30th, 2013 at 5:22:44 PM
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Wizard, this is great information! I usually go to Vegas a number of time during the college and NFL seasons and I usually swing by the sportsbook to put a few parlay bets on the games. The first time I went I was totally overwhelmed by the number of "tickets" they had available to bet with. I wasn't sure which was the best ticket to use, ties win, 1/2 point, mega teaser, etc. so I would normally just choose one and go with it. With this information now, at least I can act like I have some kind of an idea what I'm doing.
If anyone wants to win, just bet opposite of me. My last two four team parlays didn't record a single win!
Thanks again for all the information!
If anyone wants to win, just bet opposite of me. My last two four team parlays didn't record a single win!
Thanks again for all the information!
October 1st, 2013 at 5:14:50 AM
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Quote: RealizeGamingI wasn't sure which was the best ticket to use, ties win, 1/2 point, mega teaser, etc. so I would normally just choose one and go with it.
You're welcome! Stay tuned for my analysis of teasers and pleasers next. I expect it to show they are lousy bets.
"For with much wisdom comes much sorrow." -- Ecclesiastes 1:18 (NIV)
October 6th, 2013 at 11:27:33 AM
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I was just rebuffed putting in half-point parlay cards at the Rampart. I tried to put in 20 of them, 10 pick-7 for $50, and 10 pick-6 for $100. This happened at 9:00 AM PST, an hour before kickoff of the early games. The reasons for refusal were:
The machine took the first one, but evidently it set off the "approval" red flag on the second. When the supervisor looked at them, he just shook his head as he leafed through my selections, and then said, "You can bet two of these only." When I asked why he laid out the reasons above.
I'm pretty sure they are going to remember me now. I think maybe he already did from my past Super Bowl prop bets.
Not to give up, I'll try again next week. I'll put them in earlier and for smaller amounts and see what I can get away with.
The "morning game" picks are doing well so far: Sea -2.5, GB -6.5, and KC -2.5.
- The cards were very correlated. I had the same four picks on all 20, and the other picks were round robins of 5 others, by 2 and 3.
- I was betting a lot.
- Every single pick had Packers -6.5. I attempted to put them in an hour before kickoff, and the line had moved to Packers -9, evidently because a key player on the Lions was announced to be not playing after the cards were printed.
- I was putting them in too close to kickoff.
The machine took the first one, but evidently it set off the "approval" red flag on the second. When the supervisor looked at them, he just shook his head as he leafed through my selections, and then said, "You can bet two of these only." When I asked why he laid out the reasons above.
I'm pretty sure they are going to remember me now. I think maybe he already did from my past Super Bowl prop bets.
Not to give up, I'll try again next week. I'll put them in earlier and for smaller amounts and see what I can get away with.
The "morning game" picks are doing well so far: Sea -2.5, GB -6.5, and KC -2.5.
"For with much wisdom comes much sorrow." -- Ecclesiastes 1:18 (NIV)
October 6th, 2013 at 11:45:36 AM
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Thanks for the update. I'm in Vegas next week and I'll examine the 1/2 pt cards.
If I find a good opportunity, I'll put together a handful of cards totaling around $500. Perhaps that's a small enough amount to get the bets down.
If I find a good opportunity, I'll put together a handful of cards totaling around $500. Perhaps that's a small enough amount to get the bets down.
Talent hits a target no one else can hit; genius hits a target no one else can see.
October 6th, 2013 at 12:00:14 PM
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Quote: WizardI was just rebuffed putting in half-point parlay cards at the Rampart. I tried to put in 20 of them, 10 pick-7 for $50, and 10 pick-6 for $100. This happened at 9:00 AM PST, an hour before kickoff of the early games. The reasons for refusal were:
- The cards were very correlated. I had the same four picks on all 20, and the other picks were round robins of 5 others, by 2 and 3.
- I was betting a lot.
- Every single pick had Packers -6.5. I attempted to put them in an hour before kickoff, and the line had moved to Packers -9, evidently because a key player on the Lions was announced to be not playing after the cards were printed.
- I was putting them in too close to kickoff.
The machine took the first one, but evidently it set off the "approval" red flag on the second. When the supervisor looked at them, he just shook his head as he leafed through my selections, and then said, "You can bet two of these only." When I asked why he laid out the reasons above.
I'm pretty sure they are going to remember me now. I think maybe he already did from my past Super Bowl prop bets.
Not to give up, I'll try again next week. I'll put them in earlier and for smaller amounts and see what I can get away with.
The "morning game" picks are doing well so far: Sea -2.5, GB -6.5, and KC -2.5.
So maybe you have to do the legwork of spreading the bets over 2 or 3 days, or at least 2 different shifts on the same day? If they shift change at noon, like pit dealers tend to, maybe you can consolidate it to bracket that time over a couple of hours andd have different tellers and supes.
I'm not a book or even a good sports bettor, but that seems chicken***t to me, that they wouldn't take your action for $1500 total. That can't be a drop in their bettor pond in Vegas.
If the House lost every hand, they wouldn't deal the game.
October 6th, 2013 at 1:06:52 PM
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I'm not going to say I told you so..... OK I am. The rampart is notorious for this. You will need a runnerQuote: WizardI was just rebuffed putting in half-point parlay cards at the Rampart. I tried to put in 20 of them, 10 pick-7 for $50, and 10 pick-6 for $100. This happened at 9:00 AM PST, an hour before kickoff of the early games. The reasons for refusal were:
- The cards were very correlated. I had the same four picks on all 20, and the other picks were round robins of 5 others, by 2 and 3.
- I was betting a lot.
- Every single pick had Packers -6.5. I attempted to put them in an hour before kickoff, and the line had moved to Packers -9, evidently because a key player on the Lions was announced to be not playing after the cards were printed.
- I was putting them in too close to kickoff.
The machine took the first one, but evidently it set off the "approval" red flag on the second. When the supervisor looked at them, he just shook his head as he leafed through my selections, and then said, "You can bet two of these only." When I asked why he laid out the reasons above.
I'm pretty sure they are going to remember me now. I think maybe he already did from my past Super Bowl prop bets.
Not to give up, I'll try again next week. I'll put them in earlier and for smaller amounts and see what I can get away with.
The "morning game" picks are doing well so far: Sea -2.5, GB -6.5, and KC -2.5.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
October 6th, 2013 at 2:14:34 PM
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Quote: beachbumbabsSo maybe you have to do the legwork of spreading the bets over 2 or 3 days, or at least 2 different shifts on the same day? If they shift change at noon, like pit dealers tend to, maybe you can consolidate it to bracket that time over a couple of hours andd have different tellers and supes.
Good advice. I don't have a lot of free time (as you know) but will not be so greedy next time. Turns out they saved me money as Seattle -2.5 lost. That pick was on every single bet I wanted to put in.
Quote:I'm not a book or even a good sports bettor, but that seems chicken***t to me, that they wouldn't take your action for $1500 total. That can't be a drop in their bettor pond in Vegas.
Vegas sports books are notorious for not wanting to take a bet. Yesterday I saw a friend at the Suncoast and he was complaining that they wouldn't take a $500 bet on a college football total, and limited him to $300. That kind of thing happens in Vegas all the time. Some years ago the Paris limited me to $50 on Super Bowl props.
"For with much wisdom comes much sorrow." -- Ecclesiastes 1:18 (NIV)
October 7th, 2013 at 6:22:16 AM
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Quote: Wizard
Vegas sports books are notorious for not wanting to take a bet. Yesterday I saw a friend at the Suncoast and he was complaining that they wouldn't take a $500 bet on a college football total, and limited him to $300. That kind of thing happens in Vegas all the time. Some years ago the Paris limited me to $50 on Super Bowl props.
Total or each?
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/off-topic/gripes/11182-pet-peeves/120/#post815219
October 12th, 2013 at 7:42:53 PM
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Quote: Mission146Total or each?
Each.
You may recall that last week my parlay cards were buffed at the Rampart when the Supervisor looked at my stack of round robin parlay cards and said "you can bet two of these." Then I tried to bet 10 cards at $100 each, and 20 at $50 each. Also recall my attempt was at 9AM PST.
Today I wasn't so greedy. I meekly submitted six cards to the writer for $80 each, about 5:00 PM PST (Saturday). The first one went through no problem. The second one took a while. While waiting for the approval the writer noticed that the picks were pretty much the same. Just one leg was different. However, it went through anyway. With the third it again took a while and the writer said "Oakland, Pittsburgh, and Philly again, I see." This pretty much happened with every card. A long pause for approval, with the writer making remarks about how correlated my cards were, although she didn't use that word exactly. Finally the last one went through, I paid, and she said "You're good to go." I then asked if the delay was somebody at the South Point individually approving each one and she confirmed that was the case.
Here are my plays tomorrow:
Oak +9.5
GB -2.5
Pitt +2.5
Phil -0.5
Det -2.5
Buf +7.5
Wish me positive variance.
"For with much wisdom comes much sorrow." -- Ecclesiastes 1:18 (NIV)
October 12th, 2013 at 8:44:14 PM
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Positive Variance!
For my part, in about an hour, I am going to make picks, and in twenty-four hours, they will be shown to absolutely suck!
For my part, in about an hour, I am going to make picks, and in twenty-four hours, they will be shown to absolutely suck!
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/off-topic/gripes/11182-pet-peeves/120/#post815219
October 12th, 2013 at 9:57:58 PM
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POSITIVE VARIANCE I also have the Bills and Raiders.
Shed not for her
the bitter tear
Nor give the heart
to vain regret
Tis but the casket
that lies here,
The gem that filled it
Sparkles yet
October 12th, 2013 at 10:29:56 PM
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Thought the Wiz was just asking from Mission, so I refrained, but Buzz is never wrong, so...POSITIVE VARIANCE, Wiz! Hope you get a gloat-worthy moment.
If the House lost every hand, they wouldn't deal the game.
October 13th, 2013 at 2:14:36 PM
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Wizard went 4 for 6 on the day?
October 13th, 2013 at 2:22:52 PM
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Just saw this, Megatron (aka Calvin Johnson) didn't start week 5, so any bets on early lines for GB would have had a lot of value when taken just before kick off. Not too surprised if you were putting a lot through that game. I went back the other way as soon as I learned that CJ wasn't playing in that game... he's far too important for the Lions against tough opposition.
"Then you can admire the real gambler, who has neither eaten, slept, thought nor lived, he has so smarted under the scourge of his martingale, so suffered on the rack of his desire for a coup at trente-et-quarante" - Honore de Balzac, 1829
October 13th, 2013 at 4:06:51 PM
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Quote: PerditionWizard went 4 for 6 on the day?
Most cards had five picks only. Look at this card, which I put in twice. The only loser was the Packers, who won by 2.
"For with much wisdom comes much sorrow." -- Ecclesiastes 1:18 (NIV)
October 13th, 2013 at 10:46:40 PM
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Quote: WizardMost cards had five picks only. Look at this card, which I put in twice. The only loser was the Packers, who won by 2.
Ooohh, man......SO close!! Wow. Thanks for the update.
If the House lost every hand, they wouldn't deal the game.
October 13th, 2013 at 10:49:51 PM
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Have you though of wallpapering the den with these? Sure would be worlds most expensive wallpaper.
Shed not for her
the bitter tear
Nor give the heart
to vain regret
Tis but the casket
that lies here,
The gem that filled it
Sparkles yet
November 15th, 2013 at 5:23:18 PM
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I thought I'd post some of the better half point parlay cards for the rest of the season. Here is the South Point card for week 11.
Click on image for larger version.
Click on image for larger version.
"For with much wisdom comes much sorrow." -- Ecclesiastes 1:18 (NIV)
November 15th, 2013 at 11:13:36 PM
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Please post the payoffs/odds for that card. Thanks in advance.
November 15th, 2013 at 11:49:10 PM
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3: 6.5 for 1
4: 12 for 1
5: 25 for 1
6: 50 for 1
7: 100 for 1
8: 175 for 1
9: 375 for 1
10: 800 for 1
4: 12 for 1
5: 25 for 1
6: 50 for 1
7: 100 for 1
8: 175 for 1
9: 375 for 1
10: 800 for 1
November 16th, 2013 at 10:46:10 AM
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So if we've got "Wong teasers," should we start calling these "Shack parlays?"
I probably won't be to Vegas again until Spring, but there's an off chance I could make it during football season. Would be fun to play some of these, understanding the variance will overcome any potential advantage over a single weekend.
I probably won't be to Vegas again until Spring, but there's an off chance I could make it during football season. Would be fun to play some of these, understanding the variance will overcome any potential advantage over a single weekend.
"So drink gamble eat f***, because one day you will be dust." -ontariodealer
November 16th, 2013 at 2:55:23 PM
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Quote: AcesAndEightsSo if we've got "Wong teasers," should we start calling these "Shack parlays?"
I would be honored. While I'm not the first to do them, as far as I know, I'm the first to write about them. Much like people were doing Wong teasers before Sharp Sports Betting.
In other news, I just went to the Aliante this morning for the first time EVER. They have an independent book with the liberal odds on the 5, 6, and 7-leg half-point parlay cards. They also include the Thursday night game on it, which I haven't seen anyone else do. Here is the card for this week (11).
Click on image for larger version.
Here are the difference between the South Point card.
Ravens 2.5 at SP, 3.5 at Aliante.
Chiefs 7.5 at SP, 8.5 at Aliante.
"For with much wisdom comes much sorrow." -- Ecclesiastes 1:18 (NIV)
November 16th, 2013 at 7:45:04 PM
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Aliante will also put totals on games every other place stays away from. The London game you could bet both side and total of 15.5 and 41.5 (I think) on their parlay cards
November 17th, 2013 at 7:05:43 PM
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In case anyone is wondering, it was not a good parlay card week. I hit over 50% of my picks, but not enough to win any cards. The closest was hitting 4 out of 5 on one card. The games that ruined my parlays were the Jets, Packers, and Texans.
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November 17th, 2013 at 7:12:46 PM
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Sorry to hear that. I remember there were a couple cards you missed by .5 points. I know those must have hurt. Still thank you for continuing to give us updates win or lose.
November 17th, 2013 at 7:13:14 PM
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Quote: WizardIn case anyone is wondering, it was not a good parlay card week. I hit over 50% of my picks, but not enough to win any cards. The closest was hitting 4 out of 5 on one card. The games that ruined my parlays were the Jets, Packers, and Texans.
Figured no news was not good news, and didn't want to ask, but appreciate hearing.
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November 17th, 2013 at 7:43:45 PM
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i didnt hit a ticket this week either.
i didnt manage to get texans -7.5 on any of my tickets but jets +1.5 and packers +5.5 were on multiple tickets of mine. lions -2.5 i had on one ticket. and browns +6.5 on another.
the three teams i bet on the most tickets were jets +1.5, buccaneers +1.5, and bears -2.5.
i thought the bears -2.5 was an incredibly strong bet this week. a lot of offshore books had bears at -3 -120.
i didnt manage to get texans -7.5 on any of my tickets but jets +1.5 and packers +5.5 were on multiple tickets of mine. lions -2.5 i had on one ticket. and browns +6.5 on another.
the three teams i bet on the most tickets were jets +1.5, buccaneers +1.5, and bears -2.5.
i thought the bears -2.5 was an incredibly strong bet this week. a lot of offshore books had bears at -3 -120.
November 17th, 2013 at 7:51:13 PM
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Quote: PerditionSorry to hear that. I remember there were a couple cards you missed by .5 points. I know those must have hurt. Still thank you for continuing to give us updates win or lose.
Thanks. Yes, I've had two weeks where I would have had a windfall if not for one point on one leg. These parlay cards are feast or famine. Hopefully I'll have a feast before the end of the season.
"For with much wisdom comes much sorrow." -- Ecclesiastes 1:18 (NIV)
November 17th, 2013 at 9:24:05 PM
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Wiz, I just listened to your interview on GWAE last week and I thought you did a great job explaining the half-point parlay cards! You definitely had a few "Adam, this is radio!" moments, hehe. But overall very informative.
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November 22nd, 2013 at 12:13:06 PM
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Quote: AcesAndEightsWiz, I just listened to your interview on GWAE last week and I thought you did a great job explaining the half-point parlay cards!
Thank you!!!
Here is the week 12 half-point card from the Rampart/South Point/Cannery casinos.
As of this writing, Friday morning, it isn't looking like a good week. Three marginal plays only when I picked it up, so I didn't put any in. Unfortunately, no games solidly on a 3- or 7-point spread.
I said on the radio last week that the half-point cards are a good play every week. However, unless we see some big line movements, this week may be an exception.
"For with much wisdom comes much sorrow." -- Ecclesiastes 1:18 (NIV)
November 22nd, 2013 at 12:19:41 PM
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Quote: WizardThank you!!!
Here is the week 12 half-point card from the Rampart/South Point/Cannery casinos.
This looks like an excellent week to play teasers. I will be doing a round robin on six of those games.
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November 22nd, 2013 at 1:48:50 PM
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Quote: DRichThis looks like an excellent week to play teasers. I will be doing a round robin on six of those games.
It isn't as good as that card makes it took. Pit +2, Dal +2.5, and NE +2.5 are all very solid. However, Chic +1, and Oak +1 only touch the 7, they don't cross it. Hopefully those lines will move to +1.5. I'll keep my eye on them.
Or, the 6.5-point card at the Caesars casinos would cover those 1-point games as well.
"For with much wisdom comes much sorrow." -- Ecclesiastes 1:18 (NIV)
November 22nd, 2013 at 11:12:52 PM
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Thanks for the new info on parlays and teasers. I'm still looking at it and will try to apply it soon.
