2012 Breeders' Cup
October 18th, 2012 at 11:20:12 AM
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If there are any horse players left on here, I figure we can use this thread to discuss the Breeders' Cup.
In my opinion, the most compelling race of the Cup will be the Ladies Classic. Royal Delta, Awesome Feather, My Miss Aurelia, Questing are the biggest names, and it should be an excellent race.
This thread will get busier as we get closer to the Cup, but I'd love to hear everyone's opinions.
In my opinion, the most compelling race of the Cup will be the Ladies Classic. Royal Delta, Awesome Feather, My Miss Aurelia, Questing are the biggest names, and it should be an excellent race.
This thread will get busier as we get closer to the Cup, but I'd love to hear everyone's opinions.
October 18th, 2012 at 12:07:18 PM
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I made a win bet on Joshua Tree last weekend at Woodbine and told myself if he won I would parlay it onto him winning at the Breeders' Cup. He won at 4-1...tell me not to wuss out please.
October 18th, 2012 at 12:18:49 PM
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Presumably, all 15 races will be on NBC or NBC Sports Network. (Last year, when ABC / ESPN / ESPN2 aired the Breeders Cup, live coverage of the Marathon was "relegated" to TVG, but this year, the Marathon is the second race on the Friday schedule.)
October 18th, 2012 at 12:25:37 PM
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I love My Miss Arelia in the LC
October 18th, 2012 at 12:34:32 PM
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Quote: JohnzimboI made a win bet on Joshua Tree last weekend at Woodbine and told myself if he won I would parlay it onto him winning at the Breeders' Cup. He won at 4-1...tell me not to wuss out please.
I don't think he's running in the Breeders' Cup, so I don't think you have a choice.
October 18th, 2012 at 12:35:39 PM
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Quote: JW17I love My Miss Arelia in the LC
If Awesome Feather doesn't win, I hope it's Aurelia. I loved her win last time out. I just don't know if she's in the same class as Delta and Feather.
October 20th, 2012 at 6:40:35 AM
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Here are my $50 worth of Breeders' Cup Bovada future bets I have made:
$24 at 10-1 on Awesome Feather to win Ladies Classic (Now 6-1)
$16 at 12-1 on Mucho Macho Man to win Classic (Now 10-1)
$10 at 14-1 on Obviously to win Mile
Anyone else have any?
$24 at 10-1 on Awesome Feather to win Ladies Classic (Now 6-1)
$16 at 12-1 on Mucho Macho Man to win Classic (Now 10-1)
$10 at 14-1 on Obviously to win Mile
Anyone else have any?
October 25th, 2012 at 7:15:02 AM
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Pre-Entries just came out, so I have started looking at my selections. Everything I keep reading says Game on Dude is a single in the Classic, but I just see him finishing 2nd as he did last year.
8 days till the Cup!
8 days till the Cup!
November 1st, 2012 at 7:09:06 PM
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Tomorrow is Day 1 of Breeders' Cup. The question on my mind is: Does anyone here care? Note - Shackleford will probably end his career Saturday in the Dirt Mile.
November 2nd, 2012 at 8:34:08 AM
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Breeder's Cup is here, I am not liking a lot of the races to bet, I think that is my problem. It's not that I am not excited, but if I want to bet only two races, it's hard to get excited.
I like My Miss Aurelia in the Lady's Classic
I like California Flag in the turf sprint
That's it
On a side note, a buddy of mine is at Santa Anita for the BC tournament. $400 dollar buy in tourney a month ago got him $10k, $2500 entry fee, $7500 to gamble with, keep what you win regardless of what place you come in the tourney.
Now I am exited about that
I like My Miss Aurelia in the Lady's Classic
I like California Flag in the turf sprint
That's it
On a side note, a buddy of mine is at Santa Anita for the BC tournament. $400 dollar buy in tourney a month ago got him $10k, $2500 entry fee, $7500 to gamble with, keep what you win regardless of what place you come in the tourney.
Now I am exited about that
November 2nd, 2012 at 8:39:58 AM
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Groupie Doll races Saturday in the Breeders’ Cup Filly and Mare Sprint
Shed not for her
the bitter tear
Nor give the heart
to vain regret
Tis but the casket
that lies here,
The gem that filled it
Sparkles yet
November 2nd, 2012 at 12:50:14 PM
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Ok, it's time. I'll post my selections and discuss the previous race throughout the day today:
The Juvenile Sprint is next. This is probably the biggest slam dunk in the whole BC with the scratch of Super Ninety Nine.
So Merit Man (3) will go off odds on, and he is my pick in the Pick-6. I also did a $1 exacta box with him and the 2 and the 6.
Here we go!
The Juvenile Sprint is next. This is probably the biggest slam dunk in the whole BC with the scratch of Super Ninety Nine.
So Merit Man (3) will go off odds on, and he is my pick in the Pick-6. I also did a $1 exacta box with him and the 2 and the 6.
Here we go!
November 2nd, 2012 at 1:07:41 PM
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Late scratch of the 4 South Floyd. So it's a 5 horse field. Ugh. Lousy start to the day. Favorite at 3-5 right now.
November 2nd, 2012 at 1:21:12 PM
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LOL. A maiden wins a Breeders' Cup Race for the first time. The #1 - Hightail at 15-1 edges the 1-2 favorite at the wire. Not the start I was looking for.
Next race is the Marathon, I have a longshot, the #4 Grassy in an exacta box with the 7 Not Abroad and the 11 Commander.
Next race is the Marathon, I have a longshot, the #4 Grassy in an exacta box with the 7 Not Abroad and the 11 Commander.
November 2nd, 2012 at 1:59:34 PM
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The Breeders Cup is a joke. First race won by a maiden. Second race won by a 9 year-old.
Lets go back to 7-8 races. The Breeders Cup should be quality, not quantity.
Fins- nice call on Grassy; ran much better than 13-1 odds.
Lets go back to 7-8 races. The Breeders Cup should be quality, not quantity.
Fins- nice call on Grassy; ran much better than 13-1 odds.
"I am a man devoured by the passion for gambling." --Dostoevsky, 1871
November 2nd, 2012 at 2:06:37 PM
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Yeah, my pick Grassy did finish 2nd, but I don't have anything to show for it as my next closest pick in the Exacta finished 5th. Should have just put $5 across the board on him, would have made me $50.
As Book said, winner was a 9 year old from Argentina. Went off at like 17-1, so we're looking at probably a million carryover in the Pick-6 tomorrow.
Next race is the Juvenile Fillies Turf. This is wide open.
I have the 10 Waterway Run keyed in an exacta box with the 3, 4, 5, 6, 12, 13. I also have all of those but the 4 and 12 in the first leg of the million guaranteed Pick-4.
As Book said, winner was a 9 year old from Argentina. Went off at like 17-1, so we're looking at probably a million carryover in the Pick-6 tomorrow.
Next race is the Juvenile Fillies Turf. This is wide open.
I have the 10 Waterway Run keyed in an exacta box with the 3, 4, 5, 6, 12, 13. I also have all of those but the 4 and 12 in the first leg of the million guaranteed Pick-4.
November 2nd, 2012 at 2:47:04 PM
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The 4 wins, at 11-1 and I'm out of the Pick-4. The 6 came in 2nd. My 10 was in the running at the 1/4 pole, then checked out.
Next is the Juvenile Fillies. I've got a longshot the 3 Spring in the Air in an exacta box with everyone but the 4 and 6.
It's been all longshots so far.
Next is the Juvenile Fillies. I've got a longshot the 3 Spring in the Air in an exacta box with everyone but the 4 and 6.
It's been all longshots so far.
November 2nd, 2012 at 3:31:10 PM
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Beholder wins the Juvenile Fillies. I haven't cashed a ticket.
If Marketing Mix can win here then I should cash.
If Marketing Mix can win here then I should cash.
November 2nd, 2012 at 4:05:28 PM
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Marketing Mix finishes 2nd. Zagora makes the 1 1/4 and wins so I don't hit the exacta.
OK, time for the big finish - Ladies Classic. I get $250 if Awesome Feather wins. I also have a trifecta box with the top 4 choices. Finally, I have a Classic/Classic Double with My Miss Aurelia, Love and Pride and Royal Delta in the first leg.
Go Awesome Feather!!!
OK, time for the big finish - Ladies Classic. I get $250 if Awesome Feather wins. I also have a trifecta box with the top 4 choices. Finally, I have a Classic/Classic Double with My Miss Aurelia, Love and Pride and Royal Delta in the first leg.
Go Awesome Feather!!!
November 2nd, 2012 at 4:17:50 PM
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The Ladies Classic- finally a race worthy of Breeders Cup status.
"I am a man devoured by the passion for gambling." --Dostoevsky, 1871
November 2nd, 2012 at 5:18:27 PM
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Quote: MakingBookThe Ladies Classic- finally a race worthy of Breeders Cup status.
Royal Delta won showing how great she is. On her best day, she is the best horse in the country.
Hopefully tomorrow I can cash a ticket...
November 2nd, 2012 at 6:23:37 PM
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Quote: FinsRuleRoyal Delta won showing how great she is. On her best day, she is the best horse in the country.
Hopefully tomorrow I can cash a ticket...
I thought your handicapping was solid. Typically you don't need to cash many tickets to make money on BC races as the payoffs are rather nice. Hopefully you will be rewarded at the windows on Saturday.
Wow! Royal Delta is a monster. She ran fast early and still had plenty left in the tank for the stretch.
"I am a man devoured by the passion for gambling." --Dostoevsky, 1871
November 2nd, 2012 at 7:47:24 PM
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I hit one race, the Zagora/Marketing Mix exacta. Ended about even for day 1.
November 2nd, 2012 at 8:43:48 PM
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I played one race today $50 across on My Miss Aurelia, got me back $240.
Ill post my picks for all the races for tomorrow later, not that I will play them all.
Ill post my picks for all the races for tomorrow later, not that I will play them all.
November 2nd, 2012 at 9:02:40 PM
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OK here is what I would play if my bankroll was big enough, but I only will be betting what I love tomorrow
R4 - 4 Gervinho, longshot with a nice closing kick, worth a shot
R5 - 8 Musical Romance, not a huge reach here, just trying to beat the chalk outside in the 9 hole, groupie doll
R6 - 1 Rail Trip, hoping he gets exactly that, and Ellis is a great trainer who doesnt get respect.
R7 - 1 California Flag, I will be betting this one. This is a horse for course bet.
R8 - 5 Monument, tough to go against bobby b and pletcher, but hey Sadler and Talamo
R9 - 7 Little Mike, again tough tough race, wont bet it, but would take a shot with front running horse
R10 - 1 Sum Of The Parts, ugly race if I were to bet it, I would take a shot with him because of the price
R11 - 2 Wise Dan, ugh, I hate the chalk, but this is where it wins
R12 - 9 Richards Kid, closer who will pick up the pieces.
Thats it. All I know I am betting tomorrow is California Flag, I may go light on a few of the above horses but it depends on odds.
R4 - 4 Gervinho, longshot with a nice closing kick, worth a shot
R5 - 8 Musical Romance, not a huge reach here, just trying to beat the chalk outside in the 9 hole, groupie doll
R6 - 1 Rail Trip, hoping he gets exactly that, and Ellis is a great trainer who doesnt get respect.
R7 - 1 California Flag, I will be betting this one. This is a horse for course bet.
R8 - 5 Monument, tough to go against bobby b and pletcher, but hey Sadler and Talamo
R9 - 7 Little Mike, again tough tough race, wont bet it, but would take a shot with front running horse
R10 - 1 Sum Of The Parts, ugly race if I were to bet it, I would take a shot with him because of the price
R11 - 2 Wise Dan, ugh, I hate the chalk, but this is where it wins
R12 - 9 Richards Kid, closer who will pick up the pieces.
Thats it. All I know I am betting tomorrow is California Flag, I may go light on a few of the above horses but it depends on odds.
November 3rd, 2012 at 11:36:39 AM
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Call me crazy, and maybe I am; but I will be on #6 Brilliant Speed in the BC Classic.
I like the surface switch, the distance, and most important.....M/L 20-1.
I like the surface switch, the distance, and most important.....M/L 20-1.
"I am a man devoured by the passion for gambling." --Dostoevsky, 1871
November 3rd, 2012 at 11:51:36 AM
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I won't be posting all my picks like I did yesterday. But since I'm by the computer, I will pick my horse for the Juvenile Turf. The 4. Let's get him home.
November 3rd, 2012 at 12:21:41 PM
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Quote: BuzzardGroupie Doll races Saturday in the Breeders’ Cup Filly and Mare Sprint
The sentimental choice with Buzz being out of commission races in 15 minutes. She's a lock.
November 3rd, 2012 at 12:53:42 PM
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I received a "BridgeJumperAlert" on Groupie Doll. She returned $2.10 to show.
"I am a man devoured by the passion for gambling." --Dostoevsky, 1871
November 3rd, 2012 at 3:20:05 PM
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Time for the turf. Nervous about the filly and optimizer. Hopefully they stay away right here.
November 3rd, 2012 at 3:41:49 PM
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Okay, you got me to switch channels and watch the racing!
Each of us is entitled to his own opinion, but not to his own facts.
Preparing for a fight about your bad decision is not as smart as making a good decision.
November 3rd, 2012 at 3:44:14 PM
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Quote: FinsRulePre-Entries just came out, so I have started looking at my selections. Everything I keep reading says Game on Dude is a single in the Classic, but I just see him finishing 2nd as he did last year.
8 days till the Cup!
Not sure if everyone here already knows this...Game on Dude is partly owned by video poker giant Ernie Moody.
Oscar
November 3rd, 2012 at 3:50:15 PM
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Race 10 BC Sprint
I bet #6 Fast Bullet ($50 to win)
Cashed one ticket today Mizdirection at 7-1.
I bet #6 Fast Bullet ($50 to win)
Cashed one ticket today Mizdirection at 7-1.
"I am a man devoured by the passion for gambling." --Dostoevsky, 1871
November 3rd, 2012 at 4:16:26 PM
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I had Fast Bullet too as the key in my exacta... Oh well.
Hoping for Obviously and Moonlight Cloud in the Mile.
Animal Kingdom has my sentimental (but no money) support.
Hoping for Obviously and Moonlight Cloud in the Mile.
Animal Kingdom has my sentimental (but no money) support.
November 3rd, 2012 at 4:28:08 PM
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I bet Moonlight Cloud.
"I am a man devoured by the passion for gambling." --Dostoevsky, 1871
November 3rd, 2012 at 5:48:47 PM
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Quote: FinsRuleHere are my $50 worth of Breeders' Cup Bovada future bets I have made:
$24 at 10-1 on Awesome Feather to win Ladies Classic (Now 6-1)
$16 at 12-1 on Mucho Macho Man to win Classic (Now 10-1)
$10 at 14-1 on Obviously to win Mile
Anyone else have any?
Sooooo close on the Classic!
Each of us is entitled to his own opinion, but not to his own facts.
Preparing for a fight about your bad decision is not as smart as making a good decision.
November 3rd, 2012 at 5:52:52 PM
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Yeah. Mucho Macho Man looked like the winner. Just could not go by.
"I am a man devoured by the passion for gambling." --Dostoevsky, 1871
November 3rd, 2012 at 5:56:26 PM
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I celebrated at around the 1/8 pole, thinking I had the race in the bag. Had a little more than just the future bet on MMM, so the loss cost me about $300. Paynter in the Belmont cost me around the same.
Mike Smith has let me down a bunch in the last 2 years...
Oh well. Time for my 2 month horse racing break.
Mike Smith has let me down a bunch in the last 2 years...
Oh well. Time for my 2 month horse racing break.
November 3rd, 2012 at 6:21:52 PM
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Quote: FinsRuleHad a little more than just the future bet
Speaking of future bets, the Wynn had this future bet in August:
18-1 if Zenyatta's foal (sired by Bernardini) starts the 2015 Kentucky Derby (that's "starts", not "wins"). As far as I know, the foal still does not have a name, other than "12Z".
They're offering the same odds on Jess's Dream (by Curlin out of Rachel Alexandra).
Also, you can lay 1-30 on either horse not to start the 2015 Derby.
November 4th, 2012 at 6:04:34 AM
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Quote: ThatDonGuySpeaking of future bets, the Wynn had this future bet in August:
18-1 if Zenyatta's foal (sired by Bernardini) starts the 2015 Kentucky Derby (that's "starts", not "wins"). As far as I know, the foal still does not have a name, other than "12Z".
They're offering the same odds on Jess's Dream (by Curlin out of Rachel Alexandra).
Also, you can lay 1-30 on either horse not to start the 2015 Derby.
As Zenyatta didn't even race her first race until November of her 3yo season, I think the 1-30 is the better bet. But since you're talking about not getting your money for 1 1/2 years, you're better off investing or getting interest on the money than betting it. So that means it's a don't bet.
Rachel won the Oaks by 20 and won the Preakness, so I'd be more likely to make that bet. But odds would have to be more like 50-1. So that's a no bet too. Way too much can happen.
November 4th, 2012 at 7:10:42 AM
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Quote: JW17OK here is what I would play if my bankroll was big enough, but I only will be betting what I love tomorrow
R4 - 4 Gervinho, longshot with a nice closing kick, worth a shot
R5 - 8 Musical Romance, not a huge reach here, just trying to beat the chalk outside in the 9 hole, groupie doll
R6 - 1 Rail Trip, hoping he gets exactly that, and Ellis is a great trainer who doesnt get respect.
R7 - 1 California Flag, I will be betting this one. This is a horse for course bet.
R8 - 5 Monument, tough to go against bobby b and pletcher, but hey Sadler and Talamo
R9 - 7 Little Mike, again tough tough race, wont bet it, but would take a shot with front running horse
R10 - 1 Sum Of The Parts, ugly race if I were to bet it, I would take a shot with him because of the price
R11 - 2 Wise Dan, ugh, I hate the chalk, but this is where it wins
R12 - 9 Richards Kid, closer who will pick up the pieces.
Thats it. All I know I am betting tomorrow is California Flag, I may go light on a few of the above horses but it depends on odds.
Well I had two winners from the above list. Even after saying I wouldnt play every race, I did, but went very lightly. Huge $2 WP bets on every race, except I went a little heavier on California Flag who had nothing in the stretch.
I hit Little Mike for almost $50 and wheeled Wise Dan in the exacta, so not too bad.
