Packers-Seahawks debacle
Hindsight is 20-20 but is the defensive coach suppose to train defense to bat the ball down when the game is over??????
The Packers did not need to "catch" the ball, they needed the ball to hit the ground. Is there a coach in here that can answer?
P.S. I am not sure if anyone posted this issue as I have not read every post
Quote: bigpete88Back to the OP.
Hindsight is 20-20 but is the defensive coach suppose to train defense to bat the ball down when the game is over??????
The Packers did not need to "catch" the ball, they needed the ball to hit the ground. Is there a coach in here that can answer?
P.S. I am not sure if anyone posted this issue as I have not read every post
I'm not a coach, but I played a good deal of football over the years, and being one of the tallest guys on the team, I practiced the Hail Mary on both sides of the ball. The following are my personal observations:
1.) Short of blatantly tripping or knocking down the receiver, put your body in his way (even a light shove) in whatever way you can to delay him or keep him away from the ball. The Ref will almost never call defensive pass interference on an end game Hail Mary.
2.) If you are the receiver, short of blatantly tripping or knocking down the defender, do everything that you can (including shoving him) to give yourself space to attempt the catch. The Ref will almost never call offensive pass intereference on an end game Hail Mary.
3.) If you are the defender, knock the ball directly to the ground and attempt to fall on it. The only time you should ever attempt a catch is if you leap and your arms are fully extended and behind you, making you more likely to simply put the ball back into the air if you attempt to knock it down.
The Most Important Thing the Coach Ever Told Me
What happens on the field does not matter. What the Refs say happens on the field is what matters. If we ever complained about a Ref's call, even quietly, we were going to take a mile after the next practice.
Quote: FaceDifferent strokes for different folks. I was just pointing out that things could be worse.
We like to complain about replacement refs, the "N.ew F.airy L.eague" contact rules, disdains, disapprovals, disappointments, and disgusts.
But we still have the best football on the planet, with great coverage, entertaining 10s of millions of people. It's just now, things got a little intersting...er.
I can get over hockey, and do so every week when I step out on the ice. But I severely resent missing Don Cherry. Without him, my life lacks color. (Really, his suits are the only thing powerful enough to make it past my colorblindness) ;)
A lack of Don Cherry is a bright spot in the lack of NHL, IMHO. Plus I have local top level Junior Hockey here, so I guess I'm less bothered. But appear supremely careless of the NHL to have another lockout. It's the fourth place sport in a lot of markets, and it can't recover as well as other sport. I have little respect for Bettman.
As to the replacement referees... when my rugby loving father sends me jokes about the Seattle game from Scotland, you realize how far the problem of respect for the game has gone.
NFL referees are 4 lowest paid of the 4 major sports.
I believe the team with the most points won. SEATTLE
Just by coincidence , they were the best team on the field Monday Night. CRYBABY
Quote: sodawaterThat's one way to go, but I seem to recall a hail mary play from a few years ago in the NFL where the defender could have easily caught the ball, but instead he tried to knock the ball down -- and it went right into the receiver's hands for a TD. Here's the video -- with bonus Crazy Gus Johnson voice: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GlvOUG8nuZ4
Either way, the point is that the Packers WON that game. It was clearly an interception. That's what people should be upset about, not strategy.
Titus Young scored in a similar manner this weekend against the Titans on a last minute Hail Mary.
Don Chandler missed the field goal so bad, that the next year the NFL put those extensions on the goal posts.
But saint Vince never said a word in protest. Green Bay deserved to lose as they played poorly.
You have a good memory!!! That was great to watch :-)
Quote: sodawaterESPN is reporting that the league and the union have reached an agreement and the real refs will be back for this week's Thursday night game
Now we can go back to having the refs make the wrong call much more quickly!!
Quote: buzzpaffHockey " It's the fourth place sport in a lot of markets"
NFL referees are 4 lowest paid of the 4 major sports.
When you only work one day a week and the other people work 4-6 that will happen.
Now we can more accurately "chart" the refs and determine when and where the FIX will come in.
I love this game so ...
Zcore13
Quote: AZDuffmanWhen you only work one day a week and the other people work 4-6 that will happen.
Then FOOTBALL players are grossly overpaid. Besides, when is the last time people were screaming about a call in Hockey ?
Ooops , scratch that last thought. I was thinking of televised sports. Or ones where anybody cared, EH !
Quote: buzzpaffThen FOOTBALL players are grossly overpaid. Besides, when is the last time people were screaming about a call in Hockey ?
Ooops , scratch that last thought. I was thinking of televised sports. Or ones where anybody cared, EH !
Lol I still hear crying about "No Goal" to this day. Last time I heard it was two days ago. No Goal happened, what, 12 years ago? =)
Quote: buzzpaffThen FOOTBALL players are grossly overpaid. Besides, when is the last time people were screaming about a call in Hockey ?
Ooops , scratch that last thought. I was thinking of televised sports. Or ones where anybody cared, EH !
Football players work 6+ days a week.
Quote: IbeatyouracesMost of them, 5 months a year.
That is just the season. Jul-Dec it the busy time. Off-season there are other duties they have. Feb-Mar they may get to take it easy, after that at least as full time of work as any "regular" job.
Quote: FleaStiffAfter all those headlines and complaints from the Books and Bookies... you bet there is a settlement!!
Love dat post. Nevada overrules the Commish. Too bad it looks that way...LOL.
Quote: buzzpaffHockey " It's the fourth place sport in a lot of markets"
NFL referees are 4 lowest paid of the 4 major sports.
Are you comparing annual compensation or pay per game?
for exhibition games ?
And even hockey fans get to see their team win a championship, quite often in their own arena.
NFL sells the championship to another city and prices the average fan completely out of the picture.
And when a Robert Irsay or Art Modell decides not enough fans are kissing their asses and move the team, even in the middle of
the night, the NFL says " Oh, My We can't control them ."
Read September 10, 2012 Sports illustrated if you want to know what the NFL thinks of it's players. You think this referee pay lockout
was bullshit, how about the NFL 88 Plan which owners fought for years.
How many true fans picketed or wrote letters to the editors about that.
It's appropriate that some stadiums are still called Coliseums.
