FreePlay Strategy: to be conservative or not?
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I can play it max at 9 lines, five dollars a line for $45/spin or the $2 version at $90/spin. Getting the bonus game at either level, which gives 12 spins at double the standard payout schedule would be... fun!
Then there's the more conservative side of me that wanted to go to a video roulette machine and play all numbers to be assured of an approximate 95% payout- but of course they don't allow FreePlay to be used at such machines. And even if they did, certainly not as much fun.
Any other ideas/thoughts?
Quote: rainmanSwing for the fence ;)
Believe me, I'm tempted, especially as I'd never play that amount "normally", so it would be so boring to not take a bit of a shot. That said, if I ended up with like $1k or worse, I'd be, well- disappointed!
Free play, where you can take the individual winnings, is a different story. I'd play it as if it were real money. Play the games you like, at the stakes you normally play. OK, maybe crank it up a notch. But no need to go crazy.
And remember to cash out!
Quote: TheBigPaybakBelieve me, I'm tempted, especially as I'd never play that amount "normally", so it would be so boring to not take a bit of a shot. That said, if I ended up with like $1k or worse, I'd be, well- disappointed!
I figure if someones going to give me a loaded gun, then I'm going to try and shoot them right between the eyes. And if I miss it was their ammo anyway.
Quote: IbeatyouracesIf allowed, this is the best option.
I'm not too familiar with their VP, so it's something I would need to checkout. That said, for a $4k bankroll on a single-line dollar machine, I would think there would be a heck of a lot of variance...
Quote: TheBigPaybakI'm not too familiar with their VP, so it's something I would need to checkout. That said, for a $4k bankroll on a single-line dollar machine, I would think there would be a heck of a lot of variance...
You mentioned that you are getting it split up over 3 visits. Do you know how? For example, $1000 + $1000 + $2000 ?
I would also go with video poker if it is allowed. If you want to reduce variance, stick with 9/6 Jacks if it's available. It might only be available at $5 and higher denominations; at a $5 denom ($25 bet) you only have to play 160 hands to play through the entire $4000.
That said, if you play slots, I would stick with what you think is fun. You'll expect to get back $3,600 of that $4,000 but maybe you'll hit something huge.
Quote: JBYou mentioned that you are getting it split up over 3 visits. Do you know how? For example, $1000 + $1000 + $2000 ?
I would also go with video poker if it is allowed. If you want to reduce variance, stick with 9/6 Jacks if it's available. It might only be available at $5 and higher denominations; at a $5 denom ($25 bet) you only have to play 160 hands to play through the entire $4000.
Correct- it'll be $1000 + $1000 + $2000. I'll need to check out their VP, actually, and consider it as an option for the "gameplan"- one 4-of-a-kind would obviously be nice at that level...
Quote: teddysIf you play a good video poker machine you should expect to get back $3,960-$3,981 of that $4,000. The lower denomination you play the closer you will get to that exact figure (i.e., less variance).
That said, if you play slots, I would stick with what you think is fun. You'll expect to get back $3,600 of that $4,000 but maybe you'll hit something huge.
Exactly- decision, decisions... :)
Quote: rainmanThere is no arguing with JB and Teddy they got the math down. but its a matter of perception do you wish to retain a majority of the 4000. Or throw caution to the wind swing for the fence and go for the big dough. either way its gonna be fun. playing free dough always is.
Right! I'd say I want to clear 3k minimum (2.5k bare minimum!) With a chance to hit something big, through a high-limit bonus game!
Quote: IbeatyouracesMe personnally would play it on quarters and try to eliminate taxed hand pays.
It's a good point about the taxes- and thanks to all for your comments- still formulating a plan... :)
Does anyone know if Motor City Casino accepts FreePlay on their TableMaster black jack machines or any other electronic version of black jack for that matter?
Or if they have decent higher limit video poker or Pick 'Em poker?
Just suck it out, then do whatever you want with it...
That's a good amount of free play...
Usually I only get $800 a month myself...
Quote: TIMSPEEDIf it were me, I'd do $ 9/6 JoB single line...
Just suck it out, then do whatever you want with it...
That's a good amount of free play...
Usually I only get $800 a month myself...
This seems to be the majority opinion that's being recommended.
I suppose my hesitation is that since VP, even with a good paytable, is so volatile, that it seems I'll really need to get lucky to come out ahead as I can't expect to hit a royal- or even come close- with my bankroll. Now if I played VP outside of this event, that would be another story entirely- but I really don't.
While I respect advantage players greatly, the player edge comes in if you do it properly long-term. And as this is a short-term play, I can't count on that. I think, for example, I may be better off doing electronic blackjack if they accept FreePlay which is something I'm finding out.
To all you video poker players out there: what return would you expect on $1000 play-through, $1 denomination? I would tend to think it would be all over the place with no "average" expectation- but I certainly could be wrong. Anyone?
Yes- the offers this month were very good based on some heavy table game play in April. $1000 out of the $4000 is 3:1 comp conversion.
Good question. Honestly, I don't know, even though I have redeemed a ton of freeplay at Motor City. I usually just suck it through the $0.25 9/6 Jacks.Quote: TheBigPaybak
Does anyone know if Motor City Casino accepts FreePlay on their TableMaster black jack machines or any other electronic version of black jack for that matter?
9/6 Jacks in $0.25, $0.50, $1.00 for 1-9 lines ("Spin Poker"). No decent pick 'em.Quote:Or if they have decent higher limit video poker or Pick 'Em poker?
Quote: TIMSPEEDOut of 200, I usually get like 180...so, 180 x 5 is what you can expect...$900...
That's not horrible, and better than I would have guessed, actually.
Quote: teddysGood question. Honestly, I don't know, even though I have redeemed a ton of freeplay at Motor City. I usually just suck it through the $0.25 9/6 Jacks.
9/6 Jacks in $0.25, $0.50, $1.00 for 1-9 lines ("Spin Poker"). No decent pick 'em.
Thanks for the info!
Quote: winmonkeyspit3If you can play electronic blackjack play that. Follow basic strategy and you will cash out close to 4,000.
I agree, if it's an option, I'll probably at least do a portion there.
Quote: IbeatyouracesYou cannot use it on the ShuffleMaster Electronic blackjack games or any othe electronic table game either. Nor can you use it on most slots with large jackpots like Wheel of Fortune. You will see a sign on the machine telling you this. If you dont see a sign then that machine is ok to use.
The best VP they have now is the 9/6 JoB on the spin poker machines. Just play one line, 5 credits per line. If fact, I hit a royal on it yesterday :)
There is no VP in high limit any longer.
Congrats- and thanks for the (somewhat disappointing!) info...
Quote: IbeatyouracesI know a few people that would use it on those bj games if they could. Either way you play it out, you should do ok.
If I see someone playing out a large reward play amount, I'll know who it is :)
You can't beatmyaces, and how much did the roy-AL pay?
Quote: IbeatyouracesI know a few people that would use it on those bj games if they could. Either way you play it out, you should do ok.
If I see someone playing out a large reward play amount, I'll know who it is :)
Hah! Well, it doesn't take me long- but hopefully I'll be *delayed* awaiting a hand payment... :)
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Still working on the discipline, sadly, as I have played beyond the offers somewhat- and didn't always follow my initial plan.
A quick summary:
1. Did $2400 in Bonus Bets on 4-card poker over 3 sessions. One session my friend went partners and contributed $400. We lost everything on that first session. Thankfully, session two had a positive result of $1750 and session three with $1400- for a total gain of $2750. Note I combined the coupons with some real money, but I found it to be entertaining and can't complain about the final result.
2. With $4000 FP total, was able to cash out around $4700 including one jackpot. Primarily played 5-real double-diamond with the free-spin bonus, and tried $100 in Enchanted Unicorn(loser there- got out only around $500). The Double-Diamond free-spin game worked great. In retrospect, possibly should have played it all there- or just the Spin Poker.
They sent a final offer of $825x3 for this Thurs/Fri/Sat- then back to $10 or $20 next month on the FreePlay- had to end sometime, although this thurs/fri/sat was a pleasant surprise...
