EdgeLooker
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March 13th, 2012 at 2:18:27 PM permalink
I hate using the word "due", as I understand it is a totally random occurrence, but my question is if a casino puts in X number of new machines and over time it is known which machines have required a hand payout and which machines have not had a hand payout at all, would it be more of an advantage to play the machines which have never had a hand payout yet? I'm not talking about the progressive large jackpots, but just the machines 1st or maybe even 2nd highest pay line win.

Which also leads me to question, if a slot machine has never hit its 1st or 2nd highest payline win, wouldn't it be considered faulty or possibly malfunctioning, if this doesn't happen over X period of time, with consideration of how much play time the machine has endured?

TIA
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March 13th, 2012 at 4:46:50 PM permalink
Quote: EdgeLooker

I hate using the word "due", as I understand it is a totally random occurrence, but my question is if a casino puts in X number of new machines and over time it is known which machines have required a hand payout and which machines have not had a hand payout at all, would it be more of an advantage to play the machines which have never had a hand payout yet? I'm not talking about the progressive large jackpots, but just the machines 1st or maybe even 2nd highest pay line win.


No. Gambler's fallacy. Unless it is a progressive, there is no advantage to playing a machine that hasn't hit the jackpot in the past X days.

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Which also leads me to question, if a slot machine has never hit its 1st or 2nd highest payline win, wouldn't it be considered faulty or possibly malfunctioning, if this doesn't happen over X period of time, with consideration of how much play time the machine has endured?

TIA


Maybe, but you would have to do a rigorous statistical analysis to determine X. The highest payline win happens so rarely that it will probably look like it's malfunctioning long before it becomes a real possibility.
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Mosca
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March 13th, 2012 at 5:25:14 PM permalink
At our local casino, they hand-paid a lady on a jackpot, and asked her to "spin it off". She hit another jackpot on the next spin. They're totally random.
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FleaStiff
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March 13th, 2012 at 5:36:13 PM permalink
Assume there are THREE types of Payouts on this particular slot machine:

Dribs&Drabs: the odd quarter or few quarters that drop into the tray from time to time to keep a player from getting too disgruntled.
Lower Tier: the far more impressive and therefore more rare payouts wherein there is some paperwork.
Upper Tier: these are the SuperJackpot, The Jackpot, The Whopper and The Mini-Whopper that involve paperwork and also sets the player's heart a thumpin' as well.

Knowledge that there were no Dribs or Drabs at all might be significant because its the total absence of a far more frequent event.

Knowledge that there were no Lower Tier hits would be useless because although its not that impressive its still rare enough that its absence would be meaningless. The RNG is not malfunctioning just because none of the Lower Tier awards have been made.

The SuperJackpot might hit once every five years, so its inactivity is meaningless. The RNG could well have generated two SuperJackpots in one machine and none at all in the adjacent machine, yet there is no malfunction at all.
EdgeLooker
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March 13th, 2012 at 9:29:51 PM permalink
Thanks a lot guys.
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