Niblick
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September 19th, 2011 at 6:54:54 AM permalink
If you won free slot play at a casino and the following were not available, what game would you play and how would you play it?

NOT available are:

Game King Video Poker (or any other version of VP)
Game King Video Blackjack (or any other version of BJ)
Shufflemaster Blackjack (or any of the Shufflemaster Games).

In short, I cannot locate any games of skill in the slot area with which I am familiar; all games that I have seen appear to be of the mindless variety.

In another thread of similar topic, the suggestion was made to try to sell the free play to the nice lady playing the machine next to me...and may very well be the best way to go.

The venue is Dover Downs and the amount the the free play is going to be determined by the outcome of the Giants-Rams game.

So, again, I ask:

What game would you play and how would you play it?

Or, in the alternative, if skill games on slots (BJ, VP) do exist at Dover Downs, where are they?

Thank you.
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September 19th, 2011 at 7:38:47 AM permalink
Quote: Niblick

I cannot locate any games of skill in the slot area.

Games of skill? You drop the quarters in and you press the little red button. Skill??
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September 19th, 2011 at 8:25:13 AM permalink
Video Roulette (single-zero if you can find it). Even money bets only.

A penny slot with an easy-to-trigger bonus feature, play max lines one coin per line.
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Niblick
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September 20th, 2011 at 7:14:48 AM permalink
teddys, thank you for the advice

Fleastiff, I guess I wasn't entirely clear; you pretty much reiterated my understanding of slot machines. Knowing that I may very well be asking the impossible, I am looking to convert into cash slot credits in some kind of slot machine where skill makes a difference. The result of the Giants/Rams game along with total points pretty much assures me of slot credits (I'll find out exactly how much tomorrow at around noontime)...

but I've never played slots because, like you said, you put in the money and spectate.

and that is why I'm seeking any kind of advice, pointers, whatever on the best, most efficient way to turn slot credits into cash.

odiousgambit, the venue is Dover Downs (and you seem to know the Delaware spots); do you know of any VP/BJ slot machines on the floor there? I can't find any but that doesn't mean they don't exist.
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September 20th, 2011 at 7:25:53 AM permalink
Quote: Niblick

odiousgambit, the venue is Dover Downs (and you seem to know the Delaware spots); do you know of any VP/BJ slot machines on the floor there? I can't find any but that doesn't mean they don't exist.



If no one here knows, you could email them and ask. Or ask a casino employee when you're there.

One thing, though, in many vegas casinos with plentyful, if stingy, VP options, freeplay tends to be limited to slots and VP is excluded. In some cases only to certain slots. Last trip the only casino I ran across that allowed free play in all machines, including VP, was the Wynncore.

At the Goldne Nugget, free play was good only on specially amrked amchines. I made out ok, though, turning $5 in free play to about $4.50 in cash.

Anyway, if selling it to a regular player isn't an option, do you have any friends or relatives who would buy your free play and use it?
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September 20th, 2011 at 8:23:02 AM permalink
Finding a slot machine was never an issue (because I just could not have cared less);

Until now.

I suspect that free play will be excluded from all skill related machines; I will find out Friday night. I'm quite sure that by Saturday morning, I will have canvassed each and every machine.

As for friends/relatives as perspective purchasers? None admit to playing slots; I guess I'll have to find out for sure.

What do you think the discount rate is on free slot play, anyway?
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September 20th, 2011 at 8:29:39 AM permalink
To be fair, you should offer a discount rate under the known return of the slots, since you are locking in the $ risk free while the buyer has to take on risk to get the value. So, 80-90%, depends on the tightness of the slots.
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September 20th, 2011 at 9:19:28 AM permalink
Quote: dwheatley

To be fair, you should offer a discount rate under the known return of the slots, since you are locking in the $ risk free while the buyer has to take on risk to get the value. So, 80-90%, depends on the tightness of the slots.



Agreed. In Vegas it would be more than fair to sell your free play at 90 cents to the dollar given slot "looseness" figures. Elsewhere it's another matter. And of course if they blow it on video Keno, well, that's their problem.
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September 20th, 2011 at 9:40:44 AM permalink
My advice is not to waste too much time over which mindless slot machine to play since (a) they almost never tell what the true long-run payback is, and (b) the difference between them is not significant unless you have a large amount of freeplay (over $100).

If you MUST make a distinction, for whatever reason, here are a few more pieces of advice:

1) The reel slots are generally better payers than the video slots, but they can be volatile, and they bore me to tears.
2) Those pretty video slots can pay often, but mostly for little amounts.
3) A big progressive might or might not be an option. They tend to block these machines too.
4) To maximize your time, play the big denominations. To smooth out your return, play the pennies or nickels.

Anyway, in your shoes, I wouldn't bother selling it, and I do have my favorite slots, so I'd find the first one, play, have fun, and then blow it all on some game of skill.

Good luck.
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September 20th, 2011 at 11:47:27 AM permalink
You could also try Video Keno at a really low volatility and really low denomination, like a 5c catch-1.
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September 20th, 2011 at 12:09:42 PM permalink
Quote: teddys

Video Roulette (single-zero if you can find it). Even money bets only.

A penny slot with an easy-to-trigger bonus feature, play max lines one coin per line.



My wife would milk the video roulette machines whenever she had free slot play at Foxwoods or Mohegan Sun. Neither casino allows free play on these machines any longer. If the machine won't register your free play you'll know why.
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September 20th, 2011 at 12:42:17 PM permalink
They have a whole room of video poker with some fairly decent pay tables for multi-hand play as well. You want to look for the promenade slots and poker area. Good Luck!
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September 20th, 2011 at 12:58:15 PM permalink
FrGamble,

Is that the area that's on the 4th Floor? I recall that they moved a bunch of the Shufflemasters up there but I can't remember a thing about the slot machines that were moved with them.
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September 20th, 2011 at 2:19:08 PM permalink
Good luck on your quest for finding a vP machine.
If NO vP machines are able to be found (or free play used on)
the next suggestion would be a video keno pick 5, as getting even money back happens the most frequent, so at least you could suck out your free play.
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September 20th, 2011 at 2:43:05 PM permalink
Quote: TIMSPEED

Good luck on your quest for finding a vP machine.
If NO vP machines are able to be found (or free play used on)
the next suggestion would be a video keno pick 5, as getting even money back happens the most frequent, so at least you could suck out your free play.



This is such horrible advice. Video keno has a horrific house edge along with significant volatility. The worst of both worlds for the OP.
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September 20th, 2011 at 2:51:52 PM permalink
Most video keno has returns of 93-95%. I would play the lowest denomination games, one card, no cleopatra or caveman gimmicks, with a good pick 2-5 paytable.
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September 20th, 2011 at 8:52:06 PM permalink
Nope, it is off the main floor. It is off the main slots area and as I mentioned it is called the promendae. I remember the ceiling was low and there were some slots around but the main section off to the left was exclusively video poker. Sorry I don't remember the pay tables or the games themselves, but the best payout I saw was on dollar multihand DoB. It isn't a huge casino so you should find it no problem. If you have to play slots may I recommend King of the Nile by Aristocrat for no other reason that it is cool and I've been lucky on it when for some reason I played slots.
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