Uh oh ( Bally's casino jackpot winner, an immigrant seeking asylum, can't get his payout)
He complained that they never asked for his passport when he loses that much money and I get his point. He also complained that other casinos in AC never asked him for that, but that just shows the inconsistencies and lack of transparency in enforcement of this.
I think that there should be information about required identification when you enter a casino.
Quote: harrisOnce I was at a casino in Atlantic City and I was talking to a spanish-speaker from central america. I saw him get a royal flush in video poker, and then the handpay people told him his ID isn't sufficient, and they said he needed to go home to get his passport.
He complained that they never asked for his passport when he loses that much money and I get his point. He also complained that other casinos in AC never asked him for that, but that just shows the inconsistencies and lack of transparency in enforcement of this.
The ID requirement is for paying a taxable jackpot. Does this guy want to pay taxes on losing money too? Some people are sore winners, which is even worse than being a sore loser.
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I think that there should be information about required identification when you enter a casino.
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The vast majority of people have acceptable ID.
People who aren't sure can ask a slot attendant. Then they can go home and get proper ID and come back and probably not win a jackpot, thus wasting lots of time.
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The vast majority of people have acceptable ID.
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A long time ago, I did not have acceptable ID. I just hadn't gotten it all together, documents had been misplaced across a decade of apartment moves, and who knows what else.
I was given a receipt for the win, and told to come back to the cage with documents within the next 90 days (more than enough; this was a local place, not a destination resort).
It went surprisingly easy, once I had the documents. It only took 2 or 3 weeks to get replacement documents issued.
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Seriously? If I were a mod, this would result in a suspension.
My bet: illegal alien with fake ID, gave them the SSN of somebody who was already in the system and that's enough for them to withhold the payment.
Quote: AutomaticMonkeyVery suspicious story, and an incomplete one- what was he using for a SSN? And why the secrecy? The casino and IL Gaming already know who he is and what the story is, but if he needs secrecy why would he go to the news and not just to Gaming where they can and will actually do something about it?
My bet: illegal alien with fake ID, gave them the SSN of somebody who was already in the system and that's enough for them to withhold the payment.
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You would've lost your bet. Bally paid up in the end: https://www.cbsnews.com/chicago/news/ballys-casino-jackpot-winner-paid-after-story-aired/
At my casino, we don't check the validity of a TIN, because we withhold 30% for federal income tax and 4% for state income tax. We do check the validity of an SSN, and if it doesn't match the name, then we withhold 24% for federal and 4% for state income tax.
So I do think he should have been paid, but with taxes withheld. Did he get his $1,200 with no taxes withheld? That makes no sense for someone who is not a permanent resident.
Opinion: What I would like to know is what is someone seeking asylum doing at a casino? This wasn't a one-off event, either, as he stated that Bally's had paid him jackpots before. I thought people seeking asylum were escaping violence and poverty and can't afford to immigrate legally the normal way. We don't need more gambling addicts. That should be a reason for denial. Go back home, learn how to manage your finances and habits, and re-apply.
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Opinion: What I would like to know is what is someone seeking asylum doing at a casino? This wasn't a one-off event, either, as he stated that Bally's had paid him jackpots before. I thought people seeking asylum were escaping violence and poverty and can't afford to immigrate legally the normal way. We don't need more gambling addicts. That should be a reason for denial. Go back home, learn how to manage your finances and habits, and re-apply.
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Under the law asylum isn't supposed to have anything to do with poverty or economics. It's strictly because somebody is going to kill you because of some characteristic of yours. In legit cases that characteristic is usually your religion or ethnic/tribal background. Historically having funds makes an asylum claim more likely to be accepted, because they know you won't be a public charge and they're not setting a precedent for other kinds of people who will end up being public charges. That's how deposed dictators end up living in the Alps or the Riviera.
It gets a little tricky with politics or other affiliations. Back after the war there were a bunch of Germans who would have loved to get asylum in the US because some people in Nuremberg were getting ready to eliminate them. Sure, but maybe there's more to the story, maybe they have some reason for wanting to do that? It's happened here too when people who were on the losing end of a gang war or some kind of civil war, and their affiliation may well have a connection to their religion or ethnicity, but how can we accept them when they're as bad as the side that won, just having been outgunned?
