"Pity roll"

So this term was given to me by chat gpt and it stood out in this wall of text that really was a bunch of nothing.

But this was said, by the gpt, that it corresponds with loot boxes originally.

Here’s **ELI5 “pity roll”** — the simplest, cleanest explanation possible:

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# ⭐ ELI5: What is a Pity Roll?

Imagine you are drawing toys out of a mystery box.

* Most of the time you get **common toys**.
* Rarely, you get a **super special toy**.
* You might pull and pull and keep getting common toys… and that feels bad.

So the store adds a rule:

> **If the kid pulls the box a certain number of times without getting a super special toy…
> the next pull is GUARANTEED to be a super special toy.**

That rule = **pity roll**.

It’s called “pity” because the system **feels bad for you** after so many unlucky tries and gives you the good thing automatically.

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# ⭐ How It Works (Ultra Simple)

1. Every time you try, a counter goes up:
**1… 2… 3… 4…**

2. If you hit the rare item, the counter resets to 0.

3. If you reach the magic number (like 50 tries):
👉 **The game gives you the rare item automatically.**

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# ⭐ Real-World Comparison

It’s like a punch card at a pizza place:

* Buy 9 slices
* The 10th one is **free**

Even if you never got lucky and won a prize early, the system **forces** a win at the end.

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# ⭐ Why it exists

* Prevents players from feeling unlucky forever
* Guarantees everyone eventually gets the rare thing
* Makes spending feel fairer
* Keeps people playing because they know a reward is coming soon

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If you want, I can also explain:

* **Soft pity** (chance goes up each roll)
* **Hard pity** (guaranteed at X rolls)
* **How casinos/patents implement this secretly**
* **How video games (Genshin, Honkai, lotteries, etc.) code it**

Which one do you want next?


SO i asked it again if it could find a corresponding patent that was functionally similar to loot box pit rolls

and it gave me this one

"Slot machine performing payout of a predetermined amount of credits when the number of games reaches a predetermined number"
https://patents.google.com/patent/US20090082093A1/en

There's no pity rolls for video poker players when they go over 100,000 spins without a Royal.

Quote: ChumpChange

There's no pity rolls for video poker players when they go over 100,000 spins without a Royal.
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maybe they didnt have their players card in?

For slots, I find that when I lose 300x bet then all sorts of good things happen to get me back to RTP.
Ie. Screen shakes and I get a Great line hit or a bonus round.
Or lots of moderate wins in a short time.

Unfortunately for the bonus round the pity roll doesn't carry over there. Sometimes I get lousy bonuses

Another example of the lack of "pity rolls":

Every year, for the Gen Con gaming convention in Indianapolis, there is a random draw to determine the order for being able to select an affordable hotel room within walking distance - and every year, without fail, there is somebody who whines that this is the 8th or so year in a row that they did not get a downtown room, and there should be some sort of handicapping system to give them priority next year.

i guess i should say to everyone that this is techinically an ARUZE gaming patent... maybe it might happen specifically on their machines is what i was eventually and now getting at