IGT Regular Video Keno
Lately, it seems like my Arizona Indian casino, Talking Stick, has found another way of lowering the payback. While they still show the normal paybacks of "70" for a 5/6, and "1600" for a 6/6 jackpot, the "return" on an invested amount seems to have been significantly reduced. As an example, when playing a 5-spot, an investment of $100 would normally return an AVERAGE of $172, if no jackpot is accomplished. But lately, after multiple $100 investments playing a 5-spot, I find that the return has diminished to around $130-$135 dollars. The reason being that many fewer 3/5 and 4/5 are being hit. This alters the normal payback percentage from around 91.5% to a much lower percentage!
My question for anyone who might be knowledgeable on the IGT Keno game is this........ Is there a way for this old game to offer lower payback frequencies, instead of the tried-and-true way of decreasing the paybacks by lowering the pay schedules for hitting the 5/6 and 6/6?
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My question for anyone who might be knowledgeable on the IGT Keno game is this........ Is there a way for this old game to offer lower payback frequencies, instead of the tried-and-true way of decreasing the paybacks by lowering the pay schedules for hitting the 5/6 and 6/6?
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There is not a way to change hit frequencies on IGT Keno machines, only the pays can be changed.
Quote: MontanadudeI have been playing the IGT regular video Keno game for 20+ years. In nearly every casino played, in multiple states, the payback schedule is changed by the casino simply changing the payback for a given result. Take for example a 6-spot card. The normal pay schedule in most casinos is a payback of "3" for a 3/6, "4" for a 4/6, "70" for a 5/6, and a jackpot of "1600" for a 6/6. To alter that payback schedule, the casino simply changes the 5/6 pay schedule from "70" to say "62", and the jackpot from "1600" to say '1550".
Lately, it seems like my Arizona Indian casino, Talking Stick, has found another way of lowering the payback. While they still show the normal paybacks of "70" for a 5/6, and "1600" for a 6/6 jackpot, the "return" on an invested amount seems to have been significantly reduced. As an example, when playing a 5-spot, an investment of $100 would normally return an AVERAGE of $172, if no jackpot is accomplished. But lately, after multiple $100 investments playing a 5-spot, I find that the return has diminished to around $130-$135 dollars. The reason being that many fewer 3/5 and 4/5 are being hit. This alters the normal payback percentage from around 91.5% to a much lower percentage!
My question for anyone who might be knowledgeable on the IGT Keno game is this........ Is there a way for this old game to offer lower payback frequencies, instead of the tried-and-true way of decreasing the paybacks by lowering the pay schedules for hitting the 5/6 and 6/6?
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+1 to what DRich wrote, and welcome to the forum!
How do you explain an average return of $175 from $100 on a negative return game. Perhaps you mean coin in (ie, points earned) before running out? If that’s the case, getting “only” $135 sometimes is going to happen. Keno is a pretty volatile (high variance) game! One factor that will affect this is the amount of your bet. Big difference between betting $0.01, $0.05, $0.10, $0.25, or more per draw…
Quote: camaplQuote: MontanadudeI have been playing the IGT regular video Keno game for 20+ years. In nearly every casino played, in multiple states, the payback schedule is changed by the casino simply changing the payback for a given result. Take for example a 6-spot card. The normal pay schedule in most casinos is a payback of "3" for a 3/6, "4" for a 4/6, "70" for a 5/6, and a jackpot of "1600" for a 6/6. To alter that payback schedule, the casino simply changes the 5/6 pay schedule from "70" to say "62", and the jackpot from "1600" to say '1550".
Lately, it seems like my Arizona Indian casino, Talking Stick, has found another way of lowering the payback. While they still show the normal paybacks of "70" for a 5/6, and "1600" for a 6/6 jackpot, the "return" on an invested amount seems to have been significantly reduced. As an example, when playing a 5-spot, an investment of $100 would normally return an AVERAGE of $172, if no jackpot is accomplished. But lately, after multiple $100 investments playing a 5-spot, I find that the return has diminished to around $130-$135 dollars. The reason being that many fewer 3/5 and 4/5 are being hit. This alters the normal payback percentage from around 91.5% to a much lower percentage!
My question for anyone who might be knowledgeable on the IGT Keno game is this........ Is there a way for this old game to offer lower payback frequencies, instead of the tried-and-true way of decreasing the paybacks by lowering the pay schedules for hitting the 5/6 and 6/6?
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+1 to what DRich wrote, and welcome to the forum!
How do you explain an average return of $175 from $100 on a negative return game. Perhaps you mean coin in (ie, points earned) before running out? If that’s the case, getting “only” $135 sometimes is going to happen. Keno is a pretty volatile (high variance) game! One factor that will affect this is the amount of your bet. Big difference between betting $0.01, $0.05, $0.10, $0.25, or more per draw…
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I played regular single card KENO at 5¢ denom betteng 1 nickel, 6 spot, never changing numbers. Did the same on a second machine hitting both 6 spots. Each taking 2+ hours with 100% confidence for the remaining 40 minutes due to the consistent hit frequency.
So if I was playing higher denoms and bets, would it of still taken over two hours per game?
Quote: SillyskillyQuote: camaplQuote: MontanadudeI have been playing the IGT regular video Keno game for 20+ years. In nearly every casino played, in multiple states, the payback schedule is changed by the casino simply changing the payback for a given result. Take for example a 6-spot card. The normal pay schedule in most casinos is a payback of "3" for a 3/6, "4" for a 4/6, "70" for a 5/6, and a jackpot of "1600" for a 6/6. To alter that payback schedule, the casino simply changes the 5/6 pay schedule from "70" to say "62", and the jackpot from "1600" to say '1550".
Lately, it seems like my Arizona Indian casino, Talking Stick, has found another way of lowering the payback. While they still show the normal paybacks of "70" for a 5/6, and "1600" for a 6/6 jackpot, the "return" on an invested amount seems to have been significantly reduced. As an example, when playing a 5-spot, an investment of $100 would normally return an AVERAGE of $172, if no jackpot is accomplished. But lately, after multiple $100 investments playing a 5-spot, I find that the return has diminished to around $130-$135 dollars. The reason being that many fewer 3/5 and 4/5 are being hit. This alters the normal payback percentage from around 91.5% to a much lower percentage!
My question for anyone who might be knowledgeable on the IGT Keno game is this........ Is there a way for this old game to offer lower payback frequencies, instead of the tried-and-true way of decreasing the paybacks by lowering the pay schedules for hitting the 5/6 and 6/6?
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+1 to what DRich wrote, and welcome to the forum!
How do you explain an average return of $175 from $100 on a negative return game. Perhaps you mean coin in (ie, points earned) before running out? If that’s the case, getting “only” $135 sometimes is going to happen. Keno is a pretty volatile (high variance) game! One factor that will affect this is the amount of your bet. Big difference between betting $0.01, $0.05, $0.10, $0.25, or more per draw…
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I played regular single card KENO at 5¢ denom betteng 1 nickel, 6 spot, never changing numbers. Did the same on a second machine hitting both 6 spots. Each taking 2+ hours with 100% confidence for the remaining 40 minutes due to the consistent hit frequency.
So if I was playing higher denoms and bets, would it of still taken over two hours per game?
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Only if you ran out of money (would it change the amount of time on device)… Betting bigger isn’t going to change your odds (assuming you find the same pay tables), but it will affect the amount of money you will run through each machine and the amount of money you’ll lose over time.
