Magic of the Nile advantage play?
Quote: masterflame98Has anyone heard of a Magic of the Nile slot machine? We have three banks of this machine, for a total of 18 units, here at the new Emerald Queen Casino in Tacoma, Washington. It looks like a variable State machine where there are three obelisks on the screen that fill up when a certain symbol is shown on the reel. Once an Obelisk fills up it will engage a bonus game. Each Obelisk is a different bonus game. One is Random wilds the other has Expanding reels and the third one is a Multiplier Wilds. It seems like you could take advantage of this if we come across the machine with one or more of the obelisks almost full. I am curious to whether there's some math that can be done to figure out what kind of edge you would have based on the condition of the obelisks. Thank-you.
Welcome! If it is like Golden Egypt the answer is yes, and yes. Sadly, I can't do the math, but maybe if the Wizard sees this he can...
it would help if you added an image:Quote: masterflame98Has anyone heard of a Magic of the Nile slot machine? We have three banks of this machine, for a total of 15 units, here at the new Emerald Queen Casino in Tacoma, Washington. It looks like a variable State machine where there are three obelisks on the screen that fill up when a colored scarab symbol is shown on the reel. Once an Obelisk fills up it will engage a free bonus spin, which will have a larger payout.
Each Obelisk is a different bonus spin upgrade. One is Random Wilds the other has Expanding Reels and the third one is a Multiplier Wilds. It is also possible to fill up 2 of the Obelisks at once, and you get a double-upgraded bonus spin. It seems like you could take advantage of this if we come across the machine with one or more of the obelisks almost full.
I am curious to whether there's some math that can be done to figure out what kind of edge you would have based on the condition of the obelisks. Thank-you.
anyway, the obvious one is all 3 columns fill up to 2 before you play it.
maybe 2 of the columns to 2 and 1 column to 1?
At minimum 2 at 2 seems to be a good entry point
However be aware that this is only a moderately good play. There is definitely a good bit of volatility.
I thought i had this one all to myself. LOL!
Quote: mcallister3200If it’s in Washington it’s probably not a real slot machine.
They have real slots there.
Quote: masterflame98I am curious to whether there's some math that can be done to figure out what kind of edge you would have based on the condition of the obelisks. Thank-you.
I will keep my eye out for this one. I am overdue to write about another vulterable slot machine.
Quote: WizardThey have real slots there.
I thought Washington state slots were all class II?
Quote: WizardI will keep my eye out for this one. I am overdue to write about another vulterable slot machine.
Or you could figure one out nobody is playing and make a contribution.
If you have access to people with PAR sheets, there must be some games only you could figure out where people would know for sure what's good and what isn't.
Of course there are 1000s of contributions, I just mean this stuff is too easy for your skill and ability level. Spin it grand is a slot I'd recommend based on your resources. Even lightning link, most assume $1000 majors no good, but are $10,000 HL majors worth it? When is the grand worth it? Is it ever, etc?Quote: onenickelmiracleOr you could figure one out nobody is playing and make a contribution.
If you have access to people with PAR sheets, there must be some games only you could figure out where people would know for sure what's good and what isn't.
Quote: mcallister3200I thought Washington state slots were all class II?
maybe the "leftover" whatever it is simply increases your chances of gaining a winning ticket or something...
Quote: onenickelmiracleIf you have access to people with PAR sheets, there must be some games only you could figure out where people would know for sure what's good and what isn't
Par sheets are not a magic bullet that helps one fully understand how a game works. These days they are very cryptic and don't contain every pertinent bit of information one would need to know to recreate the game exactly. I think the slot makers are doing this intentionally because they know par sheets are not that difficult to get and they want to protect their intellectual property.
Give me any game and with about an hour of play I can pretty closely reverse engineer it.
Quote: mcallister3200I thought Washington state slots were all class II?
As far as I know VLT only and dammit I live here.
Quote: WizardPar sheets are not a magic bullet that helps one fully understand how a game works. These days they are very cryptic and don't contain every pertinent bit of information one would need to know to recreate the game exactly. I think the slot makers are doing this intentionally because they know par sheets are not that difficult to get and they want to protect their intellectual property.
Give me any game and with about an hour of play I can pretty closely reverse engineer it.
I really dislike spin it grand. But I second that idea. It would be great to know where the values need to be before it's worth playing.
Quote: rainmanAs far as I know VLT only and dammit I live here.
I've been to whatever casino is near Anacortes, WA and they seemed to have modern class 3 slots. Only difference is they didn't accept cash, you had to buy a voucher and then put that into the game.
In all fairness, I didn't actually play them, so could be mistaken.
Quote: WizardI've been to whatever casino is near Anacortes, WA and they seemed to have modern class 3 slots. Only difference is they didn't accept cash, you had to buy a voucher and then put that into the game.
In all fairness, I didn't actually play them, so could be mistaken.
I’m going to assume by everyone’s confusion along with yours that we can all assume that if there isn’t a law stating that the class 2 machines need to display the bingo card that they probably don’t have to display it.
I really want to not assume that but I just can’t after this point.
Quote: heatmapI’m going to assume by everyone’s confusion along with yours that we can all assume that if there isn’t a law stating that the class 2 machines need to display the bingo card that they probably don’t have to display it.
I really want to not assume that but I just can’t after this point.
NYS racinos you really cannot tell the difference just by physical appearance and there is no signage stating class type much less showing the bingo card.
Slot titles are the same as other type class as well. Keys to riches, sex and the city, etc etc
I don't believe even the poker machines have any signage but not 100% on that.
The video blackjack I was told was also such that if you hit on a 20 you would pull an ace quite often (the win being predetermined and the chances of a player hitting on a 20 what was dealt as a sure winner could not be flubbed)
Quote: WizardI've been to whatever casino is near Anacortes, WA and they seemed to have modern class 3 slots. Only difference is they didn't accept cash, you had to buy a voucher and then put that into the game.
In all fairness, I didn't actually play them, so could be mistaken.
VLT only Wizard, they look just like the real thing.
In NYS racinos, the slots are all 100% VLTs.Quote: darkozNYS racinos you really cannot tell the difference just by physical appearance and there is no signage stating class type much less showing the bingo card.
Slot titles are the same as other type class as well. Keys to riches, sex and the city, etc etc
I don't believe even the poker machines have any signage but not 100% on that.
The video blackjack I was told was also such that if you hit on a 20 you would pull an ace quite often (the win being predetermined and the chances of a player hitting on a 20 what was dealt as a sure winner could not be flubbed)
The only places with Class lll slots in NY are the four upstate "casino resorts" (Resorts World Catskills, Rivers, del Lago, and Tioga), and the seven tribal casinos that offer live table games. That's it. There are four small tribal casinos with bingo halls (Lakeside and Seneca's Irving, Salamanca and Oil Spring), that have Class II slots. All other casinos in NY (i.e. raciness) have VLT slots only.
Quote: UP84In NYS racinos, the slots are all 100% VLTs.
The only places with Class lll slots in NY are the four upstate "casino resorts" (Resorts World Catskills, Rivers, del Lago, and Tioga). That's it. There are four small tribal casinos with bingo halls (Lakeside and Seneca's Irving, Salamanca and Oil Spring), that have Class II slots. All other casinos in NY, including the tribals with live table games and racinos, have VLT slots only.
I thought Turning stone had a mix of class lland class lll, and I thought Seneca Niagara was all class lll. I have played a lot of video poker in Niagara and my results were actually slightly above ev.
You're right. Sorry about that. The gambling landscape is NYS is so confusing, and it keeps changing. Turning Stone, and the other tribal casinos that offer live table games, have class III slots (I think it now stands at seven places total). They, along with the four "casino resorts" are the only places with class III slots. Racinos, which I think there are now eight, have VLTs only. I've edited my original post.Quote: HunterhillI thought Turning stone had a mix of class lland class lll, and I thought Seneca Niagara was all class lll. I have played a lot of video poker in Niagara and my results were actually slightly above ev.
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