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tringlomane
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April 18th, 2019 at 12:06:35 AM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

Do you know if they are allowed to have class lll? I thought I heard they were trying to get that. I don't know that it would matter much since I don't think they would put in very much as far as video poker. But perhaps they would have Video craps, roulette and BJ. I take it they don't have any of that? What about bubble craps or automatic roulette?



As of now, electronic machines like slots or VP have to be virtual scratchoffs. They have table games and live poker though. I dunno if they are allowed to have electronic table games though.
onenickelmiracle
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April 18th, 2019 at 10:57:49 AM permalink
You can play neg ev if it demoralized the competition.
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prozema
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April 18th, 2019 at 12:58:57 PM permalink
Or if the sum of three actions is positive even with the first being negative.
kgb92
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May 23rd, 2019 at 1:41:13 AM permalink
Quote: Wizard

Is that the one with five rows? I just saw that game a couple days ago. Perhaps my ne0xt project.



I think that it has 7 rows.
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May 23rd, 2019 at 8:37:57 AM permalink
Interesting thread. I've vultured this game for the last two years and The Wizard's chart seems to square with my strategy. The Bubble Blast mode could use some refining, though. When the blast happens it can be extremely lucrative for the current spin and the next few spins, and I don't believe that's fully captured in the numbers.

I'll play anything in the first 3 reels. The 4th reel rows 2 and 3 are what I consider a "variance booster", that is, probably a slightly positive play but will really just serve to add to your variance... similar to playing one 2x multiplier on a ten-line UX game. There's better stuff out there.

As far as the information war...

First, the masses don't read about gambling. The real threat to any play are the pros who will burn it out. Any sharp gambler who frequents the WOV boards has better plays to make than vulturing Ocean Magic, and full-time vultures already know all about it. OM by itself is not a reason for a newbie to head out and vulture casinos everyday, they will need more than that. I look at vulturing as a collective of plays that come and go. OM will have a life span that will eventually end and that's just the nature of things.

Second, even if the information is out there, OM will still be viable. Because like every other casino play in history, the whole concept of vulturing is predicated on casino patrons being unaware of how the games operate. I don't see this changing any time soon. People will continue to leave bubbles, abandon multipliers, play poorly at blackjack, over-bet the favorites, etc... Vulturing opportunities will be around for a while.

That said, if you're a pro, it is best to keep your cards close to your chest. I don't begrudge anyone who shares information, because that's the natural cycle of all markets. The key to staying in action is to continually evolve.
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kgb92
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May 24th, 2019 at 1:21:58 AM permalink
No. I checked today and it has 6 rows.
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May 24th, 2019 at 6:28:55 AM permalink
I haven't analyzed Ocean Magic Grand yet, so I would not assume my Ocean Magic strategy is appropriate for the Grand game.
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May 24th, 2019 at 6:56:58 AM permalink
Ocean Magic doesn't pay out as well as it used to do. The bubbles aren't landing on the Ocean Magic that many times anymore.
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prozema
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May 24th, 2019 at 8:01:50 AM permalink
I can confirm that OM and OM Grand have different strategies.
onenickelmiracle
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March 2nd, 2020 at 5:36:50 PM permalink
Quote: Nathan

Ocean Magic doesn't pay out as well as it used to do. The bubbles aren't landing on the Ocean Magic that many times anymore.

Agreed, the game settings are a joke, this article is misinformation at this point. The basics can be true, but other games in The genre are drastic changes in strategy or do not play. Kind of funny how casinos keep machines but decide a drastic deviation other slots is needed. Set it and forget it is a joke, casinos do cheat. The ploppies are the ones that get slaughtered.
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